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Honest question from somebody who has watched and read more about politics in the past month than he has his whole life.......... does ABM ,Marist and Orion lREALLY REALLY think he won? As much as they support him on here and have simply stopped posting, it seems that way.
 
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THE HCP said:
Honest question from somebody who has watched and read more about politics in the past month than he has his whole life.......... does ABM ,Marist and Orion lREALLY REALLY think he won? As much as they support him on here and have simply stopped posting, it seems that way.
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The question you should be asking is does Trump REALLY think he won.

 
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I saw and read a few of the court transcripts of some of his lawsuits today. When it came down to it, the lawyers for him backed down when the judge asked them serious questions. I think they realize that they don’t want to lie in court. The judges were setting these guys straight!
 
So officially it’s an audit and not a recount. THE HCP is confused.
 
CNN has finally called AZ for Biden.

"The Democratic victory -- declared days after CNN projected Biden's win in the presidential race -- was anchored by Maricopa County, home to Phoenix and nearly 60% of all people in the state. Maricopa is the fastest-growing county in the country, transforming over the last two decades into a sprawling mass of metropolitan hubs, sun-scorched planned communities and bustling strip malls."

I said it before and I will say it again, all the conservatives that crow about people supposedly fleeing California - should ask themselves what that means...
 
andalusian said:
CNN has finally called AZ for Biden.

"The Democratic victory -- declared days after CNN projected Biden's win in the presidential race -- was anchored by Maricopa County, home to Phoenix and nearly 60% of all people in the state. Maricopa is the fastest-growing county in the country, transforming over the last two decades into a sprawling mass of metropolitan hubs, sun-scorched planned communities and bustling strip malls."

I said it before and I will say it again, all the conservatives that crow about people supposedly fleeing California - should ask themselves what that means...
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The electoral map is changing. I think the previous DEM mainstays in MI/PA/WI are up for grabs, OH and FL are going solidly red, but TX/AZ/GA have chances of flipping blue. Might result in a lot of changes in the coming years.
 
Emma for President 2024!

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How would you like to donate to the "Trump Election Defense Team"
Hope you got $8000 to get there?
Jarrett Renshaw and Joseph Tanfani
Wed, November 11, 2020, 1:59 PM PST·7 min read


By Jarrett Renshaw and Joseph Tanfani

Nov 11 (Reuters) - As President Donald Trump seeks to discredit last week's election with baseless claims of voter fraud, his team has bombarded his supporters with requests for money to help pay for legal challenges to the results: “The Left will try to STEAL this election!” reads one text.

But any small-dollar donations from Trump's grassroots donors won't be going to legal expenses at all, according to a Reuters review of the legal language in the solicitations.

A donor would have to give more than $8,000 before any money goes to the "recount account" established to finance election challenges, including recounts and lawsuits over alleged improprieties, the fundraising disclosures show.

The emailed solicitations send supporters to an “Official Election Defense Fund” website that asks them to sign up for recurring donations to “protect the results and keep fighting even after Election Day.”

The fine print makes clear most of the money will go to other priorities.

A large portion of the money goes to "Save America," a Trump leadership PAC, or political action committee, set up on Monday, and the Republican National Committee (RNC). Under Federal Election Commission rules, both groups have broad leeway in how they can use the funds.

The Trump campaign, the RNC and Trump's new Save America PAC did not respond to requests for comment.

Leadership PACs such as Save America are often set up by prominent political figures to spend money on other candidates, while also paying for personal expenses, such as travel and hotel stays.

The disclosures would allow Trump and the RNC to channel the donations into other political causes or campaigns, such as the two high-stakes January Senate runoff races in Georgia that could determine control of the Senate and are likely to rank among the most expensive races in U.S. history.

Trump's solicitation website carries a banner headline that says "OFFICIAL ELECTION DEFENSE FUND" and "CONTRIBUTE NOW."

Scrolling down the page would take a donor to the fine print, which shows that donations are split between "Save America," which gets 60% of the money, and the RNC, which gets the other 40%. None of the money flows to Trump's official "recount" committee fund until Trump's Save America share reaches the legal contribution limit of $5,000, according to the disclosures.

That means that, before a dollar goes into the recount fund, Save America would receive $5,000 and the RNC around $3,300. Donations to the recount committee are legally limited to $2,800.

----So the donation is limited to $2800 and you have to donate $8000 to get it started so pretty much anyone donating less than $8000 is giving Trump money and anyone donating more than $10,800 is giving the RNC and a SuperPac money.
This is a really sad state of affairs.
Trump Followers have been duped so many times i feel bad for them. It must be very hard to wake up and realize you have been so blatantly Scammed. Where will they turn when Fox news is no longer on his nice list? Santa Trump only knows Lumps of Coal.
 
kjironman1 said:
How would you like to donate to the "Trump Election Defense Team"
Hope you got $8000 to get there?
Jarrett Renshaw and Joseph Tanfani
Wed, November 11, 2020, 1:59 PM PST·7 min read


By Jarrett Renshaw and Joseph Tanfani

Nov 11 (Reuters) - As President Donald Trump seeks to discredit last week's election with baseless claims of voter fraud, his team has bombarded his supporters with requests for money to help pay for legal challenges to the results: “The Left will try to STEAL this election!” reads one text.

But any small-dollar donations from Trump's grassroots donors won't be going to legal expenses at all, according to a Reuters review of the legal language in the solicitations.

A donor would have to give more than $8,000 before any money goes to the "recount account" established to finance election challenges, including recounts and lawsuits over alleged improprieties, the fundraising disclosures show.

The emailed solicitations send supporters to an “Official Election Defense Fund” website that asks them to sign up for recurring donations to “protect the results and keep fighting even after Election Day.”

The fine print makes clear most of the money will go to other priorities.

A large portion of the money goes to "Save America," a Trump leadership PAC, or political action committee, set up on Monday, and the Republican National Committee (RNC). Under Federal Election Commission rules, both groups have broad leeway in how they can use the funds.

The Trump campaign, the RNC and Trump's new Save America PAC did not respond to requests for comment.

Leadership PACs such as Save America are often set up by prominent political figures to spend money on other candidates, while also paying for personal expenses, such as travel and hotel stays.

The disclosures would allow Trump and the RNC to channel the donations into other political causes or campaigns, such as the two high-stakes January Senate runoff races in Georgia that could determine control of the Senate and are likely to rank among the most expensive races in U.S. history.

Trump's solicitation website carries a banner headline that says "OFFICIAL ELECTION DEFENSE FUND" and "CONTRIBUTE NOW."

Scrolling down the page would take a donor to the fine print, which shows that donations are split between "Save America," which gets 60% of the money, and the RNC, which gets the other 40%. None of the money flows to Trump's official "recount" committee fund until Trump's Save America share reaches the legal contribution limit of $5,000, according to the disclosures.

That means that, before a dollar goes into the recount fund, Save America would receive $5,000 and the RNC around $3,300. Donations to the recount committee are legally limited to $2,800.

----So the donation is limited to $2800 and you have to donate $8000 to get it started so pretty much anyone donating less than $8000 is giving Trump money and anyone donating more than $10,800 is giving the RNC and a SuperPac money.
This is a really sad state of affairs.
Trump Followers have been duped so many times i feel bad for them. It must be very hard to wake up and realize you have been so blatantly Scammed. Where will they turn when Fox news is no longer on his nice list? Santa Trump only knows Lumps of Coal.
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Yeah, Trump is basically just scamming people to fill his pockets.
 
andalusian said:
CNN has finally called AZ for Biden.

"The Democratic victory -- declared days after CNN projected Biden's win in the presidential race -- was anchored by Maricopa County, home to Phoenix and nearly 60% of all people in the state. Maricopa is the fastest-growing county in the country, transforming over the last two decades into a sprawling mass of metropolitan hubs, sun-scorched planned communities and bustling strip malls."

I said it before and I will say it again, all the conservatives that crow about people supposedly fleeing California - should ask themselves what that means...
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About time. I get it though trying to be transparent as not to be accused of bias and making sure to get it right.

Surprised NC hasn't been called yet
 
kjironman1 said:
How would you like to donate to the "Trump Election Defense Team"
Hope you got $8000 to get there?
Jarrett Renshaw and Joseph Tanfani
Wed, November 11, 2020, 1:59 PM PST·7 min read


By Jarrett Renshaw and Joseph Tanfani

Nov 11 (Reuters) - As President Donald Trump seeks to discredit last week's election with baseless claims of voter fraud, his team has bombarded his supporters with requests for money to help pay for legal challenges to the results: “The Left will try to STEAL this election!” reads one text.

But any small-dollar donations from Trump's grassroots donors won't be going to legal expenses at all, according to a Reuters review of the legal language in the solicitations.

A donor would have to give more than $8,000 before any money goes to the "recount account" established to finance election challenges, including recounts and lawsuits over alleged improprieties, the fundraising disclosures show.

The emailed solicitations send supporters to an “Official Election Defense Fund” website that asks them to sign up for recurring donations to “protect the results and keep fighting even after Election Day.”

The fine print makes clear most of the money will go to other priorities.

A large portion of the money goes to "Save America," a Trump leadership PAC, or political action committee, set up on Monday, and the Republican National Committee (RNC). Under Federal Election Commission rules, both groups have broad leeway in how they can use the funds.

The Trump campaign, the RNC and Trump's new Save America PAC did not respond to requests for comment.

Leadership PACs such as Save America are often set up by prominent political figures to spend money on other candidates, while also paying for personal expenses, such as travel and hotel stays.

The disclosures would allow Trump and the RNC to channel the donations into other political causes or campaigns, such as the two high-stakes January Senate runoff races in Georgia that could determine control of the Senate and are likely to rank among the most expensive races in U.S. history.

Trump's solicitation website carries a banner headline that says "OFFICIAL ELECTION DEFENSE FUND" and "CONTRIBUTE NOW."

Scrolling down the page would take a donor to the fine print, which shows that donations are split between "Save America," which gets 60% of the money, and the RNC, which gets the other 40%. None of the money flows to Trump's official "recount" committee fund until Trump's Save America share reaches the legal contribution limit of $5,000, according to the disclosures.

That means that, before a dollar goes into the recount fund, Save America would receive $5,000 and the RNC around $3,300. Donations to the recount committee are legally limited to $2,800.

----So the donation is limited to $2800 and you have to donate $8000 to get it started so pretty much anyone donating less than $8000 is giving Trump money and anyone donating more than $10,800 is giving the RNC and a SuperPac money.
This is a really sad state of affairs.
Trump Followers have been duped so many times i feel bad for them. It must be very hard to wake up and realize you have been so blatantly Scammed. Where will they turn when Fox news is no longer on his nice list? Santa Trump only knows Lumps of Coal.
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...keep the grift alive at all costs!! May as well steal every last penny before his seedy tax hike kicks in next. Make America Broke Again?
 
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