Two boys, ages 11 and 7, use gun in attempted robbery, carjacking

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PORTLAND – Two boys, ages 11 and 7, had a loaded gun and tried to carjack and rob a woman in Southeast Portland Saturday afternoon, police said.

After hearing reports of an 11-year-old with a gun, police rushed to 16000 Southeast Alder Street near the Freedom Foursquare church, said Sgt. Pete Simpson with the Portland Police Bureau.

Officers spotted an 11-year-old and a 7-year old boy on the south side of the church. Police told the 11-year-old to keep his hands out of his pockets but he ignored them. The officers grabbed his arms and found a cocked and loaded .22 caliber handgun in his pocket, Simpson said.

The officers were then flagged down by 22-year-old Ami Garrett who said she was sitting in her truck when the two kids approached her in the church parking lot and tried to carjack her while she waited for her parents, Simpson said.

Garrett told officers that the 7-year-old told the 11-year-old to "show her your piece" and the 11-year-old lifted his shirt and showed her the gun.

"They told me they had a gun and I asked if it was real, and they said 'you don't ever ask if a gun is real,'" Garrett told KGW Sunday. "There was a lot of curse words and at first I thought they were just punk kids. I didn't think it was a real gun until he showed me the bullets."

Garrett refused to give up her truck, so the kids demanded her phone and money, telling her they couldn’t leave without something and threatened to shoot her, Simpson said.

"They told me they were going to blow my brains out if I didn't give them something," Garrett said. "My heart was beating a million miles an hour. I definitely didn't think I was going to get out of there alive. I thought I was going to die."

Garrett didn’t give them anything. Instead, she drove away and called police. As she was driving, she saw the 11-year-old pull the gun out.

"It's crazy. It seems like something you would see on CSI," she said. "God was obviously protecting me."

"In almost 20 years of police work, I've never heard of anything like this," Simpson said. "Not only was it young kids with a gun, but the attitude that came out of the kids and the kind of criminal aurora that was being displayed is just unbelievable."
Because of the boys’ ages, they were placed into the custody of their families.

When the 11-year-old was taken home, he took off running. He was quickly caught again and left in the custody of his parents.

"If they were old enough, they'd be booked into the jail and charged with a measure 11 robbery one, which would land them 90 months in prison. They're too young for that," Simpson said. "They're not set up at the Juvenile Justice Center to be able to handle 11 and 7 year olds, so officers took them home to parents to explain the situation to them."


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Because of the boys’ ages, they were placed into the custody of their families.

When the 11-year-old was taken home, he took off running. He was quickly caught again and left in the custody of his parents.

"If they were old enough, they'd be booked into the jail and charged with a measure 11 robbery one, which would land them 90 months in prison. They're too young for that," Simpson said. "They're not set up at the Juvenile Justice Center to be able to handle 11 and 7 year olds, so officers took them home to parents to explain the situation to them."


Probably not the best idea.
 
There has to be some kind of consequences... if not for the boys, then for the parents.
 
we can't have kids being sent to juvie, where the big kids can turn them into hardened criminals....who may commit armed robbery someday.
 
we can't have kids being sent to juvie, where the big kids can turn them into hardened criminals....who may commit armed robbery someday.

What do you suggest? Surely you don't think simply returning the kids to their homes is sufficient punishment.
 
I thought the last part meant I didn't need green font.
 
A .22 pistol is a wimpy weapon. It is a BB gun without accuracy.

Bad parenting...
 
I think they, and their parents, should go through some intensive therapy and ensure the kids have a relatively safe home and that the kids don't have some sort of disconnect.
 
Clearly, these kids will one day be murdurers. Better to not waste the time, money, and energy on them.
 
a .22 can def kill you if you get hit in the wrong spot

clearly they learned this shit from their parents or parents friends though, so yeah...idk, take them away? foster care?
 
I know it's wrong, I really do, but I can't wait to see what race these two stains on society are
 
Should have put both of them in real adult lockup, with undercover cops posing as the other inmates. Maybe even fake a fight or something to scare the shit out of the little heathens.

Seriously, though, the parents should be held to some level of responsibility for the actions of their kids...
 
No idea? Curiosity maybe? I don't care at all which race they are, just wanna know for some reason

Well, then you care in some form or another, whether you know the real reason or not. But you know nothing, so you can't elaborate.
 
The race thought occurred to me, but oddly enough I (a white guy) was initially picturing the kids as white, and then thought that I hope the kids are neither black nor mexican so that the race issue would be less likely to be made a major part of the discussion.

I think the first five posts in this thread were where I would hope this discussion would center--how to deal with pre-pubescent violent offenders, as well as what societal factors contribute to such an event.
 
Their race didn't even cross my mind. Just imagined them as white trash.
 
The 11-year old has had prior run-ins with the law, including just days before this incident.

11? It's clear he can't be rehabilitated, and he's giving the wrong impressionable youth. He can't be saved. He should be given a life sentence, at least.

WTF are wrong with dude's parents? Seriously? I'd be so embarrassed, I'd at least figure a way to send him to a disciplinary school. Help make your child a functional part of society rather than a detrimental and dysfunctional piece of shit.

Just sayin'.
 

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