Event Tyson vs Jones Jr

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From what i am reading around the twittersphear Tyson won the fight and they all seem to feel the draw was because it was an exhibition.
Remember it ain't easy coming back at 54 years old. I got a bit out of shape at 44 and had to fight hard to get back into shape. I can't imagine having to come all the way back at 54?
 
wizenheimer said:
one punch from Tyson...the fight would be stopped....and you'd be leaving in an ambulance or a hearse
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SlyPokerDog said:
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A boxing match between someone that knows absolutely nothing about boxing, and someone that has trained just a little. In a street fight, maybe nate gets him? Who knows. When you forget to protect your face all fight? Bye nate
 
I have to admit i had absolutely no idea who Jake Paul was before last night. Dude got famous for being a crappy fighter who beat a guy who isn't a fighter.
 
Obligatory Sophomoric Comment: RJJ was lucky to escape with both his ears!

Didn't watch the fight, but I'll always give props to George Foreman who won it for real at age 50.
 
I quit watching boxing when the realization of it was just two well conditioned me trying to inflict the most damage on each other as possible suddenly hit home with me.

Now, I spend my time watching physical events that require athleticism and endurance without trying to hurt each other. In fact, I only watch sports where it is illegal to hurt or even try to hurt your opponent.
 
Lanny said:
Now, I spend my time watching physical events that require athleticism and endurance without trying to hurt each other. In fact, I only watch sports where it is illegal to hurt or even try to hurt your opponent.
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I didn't know knitting was considered a sport.
 
Tyson won every round of that match and he was holding back...I've no doubt Mike would have knocked him out if not for the age and out of respect.....Mike is a powerful man...when he plants his feet he's a rock...Jones was gassed after one minute in the ring....his rope a dope failed because when he wanted to finally throw punches his legs were already wobbly.....Mike was clearly in better shape
 
Tyrant of Ants said:
As someone who competed (for a short time) and been around people that compete(d) in combat sports, I can tell you that trying to hurt each other is not something that most like doing. Sure, there are the occasional psychopaths that relish the violence, but they usually don’t last long in the sport. Just like in non-combat sports, competing in combat sports is about testing your physical/mental fitness (with regards to your discipline) and the skillsets that you dedicated a good part of your life learning.
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The very purpose of combat sports is to inflict the most damage on your opponent. I'll assume this means that no one wants to kill their opponent just beat him up.
 
Lanny said:
The very purpose of combat sports is to inflict the most damage on your opponent. I'll assume this means that no one wants to kill their opponent just beat him up.
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No one wanted a 50+ year old to suffer a concussion in this fight so they threw alot of body punches and few head shots....it it was a real competitive match this match was never a draw...they would have called it a Tyson massacre because Mike barley got hit by Jones for 8 rounds.
 
Feel Sorry for Nate. No way Id fight that slimball Paul. Guaranteed his on roids.
 
Tyrant of Ants said:
That’s generally a misguided, if not mildly insulting, perception of combat sports. Like any other sport, the goal is to win the match by taking the least amount of damage possible. For the vast majority of combat sports, you aren’t worse for the wear after a match than you’d be after playing a game of football, rugby, hockey, or even basketball. Hell, I’d say a lot of combat sports are even safer than a few full contact sports.

Many combat sport competitions such as Taekwondo and Karate (and its offshoots): 1. There are strict set of rules that competitors must adhere to, with referees to enforce these rules, 2. Protective gears such as paddings to the mid-section, head gear, arm pads, shin guards, mouthpieces, groin protectors, etc. are all must-haves, 3. Winners are determined by point based systems rather than direct damage to the opponents. Grappling based combat sports such as Judo, Jiu Jitsu, and wrestling mostly determine winners using a point system rather than from direct damage as well (you tap from a submission, obviously). You also have combat sports where it’s judged entirely on techniques and styles (Wushu, Kendo).

Sorry for the long post, but I really hate the misconception that combat sport competitors relish the violent aspect of it and like to inflict pain on each other. You go into a match focusing on executing things you’ve been training for (a lot of it is defensive), not thinking how much you can put a hurting on the guy in front of you. It’s a sport, not a street fight between two belligerent, drunkards looking to end up in a jail cell or a hospital bed.
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How do they score points in boxing? Body blows, head blows, knockouts win a match by hurting someone bad enough to score a TKO. In Tae Kwon Do we were not allowed to make contact until we achieved brown belt status so that was good. Now, look at mixed martial arts where you get injuries galore. Sure, there are rules that try to minimize the damage but you still get damage and that's where points are awarded.
I look at Tae Kwon Do a bit differently. No. 1, my wife is Korean so I take an interest in it. Also, when I was in college, I studied some Tae Kwon Do. In high school I was a wrestler. In collegiate wrestling all harm is prohibited and points will be deducted so that's not really a combat sport.
In the Army all hand to hand combat is taught to inflict maximum damage.
Look where the points are awarded to tell you if the sport is violent or not.
 
Tyrant of Ants said:
For minor injuries like laceration and contusion, I’d guess that MMA ranks higher (I couldn’t find a source for this, so just an observation from experience) than football. As far as major injuries (concussion, fractured bones, ligaments damage), football actually has a higher rate. A 2018 study shows mild brain injuries in 23.6% of MMA fighters, compared that with a study that shows 25% of NFL players with mild brain injuries.

Herschel Walker, Greg Hardy, Eryk Anders, and Ovince Saint Preux, all of whom played football (college and pro) and fight in the UFC (except for Walker, he was with a different promotion), have commented that they worried about getting injured playing football more than they do fighting.
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The rules of football prohibit injuries incurred on purpose. The rules of combat sports promote injuries. As I said, look at how combat sports scores points. At that I've now exhausted my argument and I doubt you are going to be swayed so I say let's move on to more productive ground such as a burning desire to practice combat sports on Trump and his weasel faced son as well as his top assistants. Now, that's where I'd go for some combat sports.
 
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