U.S. Debt Held by Public Tops $10T for 1st Time—Up 59 Percent Under Obama

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(CNSNews.com) - At the close of business on Aug. 31--for the first time in the history of the country--the publicly held debt of the federal government topped $10 trillion, according to data released by the U.S. Treasury Department at 4:00 p.m. yesterday.

During Obama's presidency, debt held by the public has now increased by $3.71694 trillion--or almost 59 percent from the $6.3073 trillion in debt held by the public that the government owed to its creditors on Jan. 20, 2009, when Obama was inaugurated.

Also, according to the most recent reports available from the Treasury and the Federal Reserve, approximately $6.1 trillion of that debt—or about 61 percent of it—is owned by foreign interests (led by the Chinese and the Japanese) and by the Federal Reserve.

At the close of business on Aug. 30, as reported by the Treasury Department’s Bureau of the Public Debt, the federal government’s debt held by the public equaled $9,990,126,772,846.86. By the close of business on Aug. 31, it was $10,024,253,354,407.07.

The Treasury divides the debt of the U.S. government into two general categories: “debt held by the public” and “intragovermental” debt.

The “intragovernmental” debt is money the Treasury has borrowed out of government trust funds—including the Social Security trust fund—to use on federal expenses other than those the trust funds were set up to cover. This “intragovernmental” debt is money the government owes itself.

The "debt held by the public,” according to the Treasury, includes “all federal debt held by individuals, corporations, state or local governments, foreign governments, and other entities outside the United States Government.” Among the types of Treasury securities included in the “debt held by the public” are Treasury bills (which mature in one year or less), Treasury notes (which mature in two to 10 years), Treasury bonds (which mature in 30 years), U.S. Savings Bonds, and Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities.

At the close of business on Aug. 31, the total outstanding debt of the U.S. government—including both the debt held by the public and the intragovernmental debt--equaled $14,684,292,994,743.93.

Of that $14,684,292,994,743.93 in U.S government debt, $10,024,253,354,407.07 was debt held by the public and $4,660,039,640,336.86 was intragovernmental debt.

From Obama’s inauguration as president on Jan. 20, 2009 through Aug. 31, 2011, the total debt of the U.S. government increased $4.05742 trillion. But most of that increase—roughly 92 percent—has been from the increase in debt held by the public as opposed to an increase in intragovernmental debt.

When Obama was inaugurated, the overall federal debt was $10.6269 trillion, with about $6.3073 trillion of that in debt held by the public and $4.3196 trillion in intragovernmental debt.

By Aug. 31, 2011, the debt held by the public had increased by about $3.71694 trillion during Obama’s presidency while intragovernmental debt had increased only by $340.47 billion.
 
At least drunken sailors stop spending when their money runs out.

Right Brian? ;-)
 
The “intragovernmental” debt is money the Treasury has borrowed out of government trust funds—including the Social Security trust fund—to use on federal expenses other than those the trust funds were set up to cover. This “intragovernmental” debt is money the government owes itself.

The actual amount "borrowed" from Social Security trust fund, all done before Obama took office, was $2.5 trillion dollars in 2010. I point this out because it is the ONLY threat to SSS's future solvency.
 
Obama has thrown us into insolvency. The fallout will be catastrophic.

Actually, we aren't insolvent. The fallout from us being not-insolvent may or may not be catastrophic. I'm guessing not catastrophic.

And did you see in the news that the deficit this year is going to be 20% lower than previously predicted?

barfo
 
And did you see in the news that the deficit this year is going to be 20% lower than previously predicted?

barfo

Tea Party.

At least you give them credit.
 
Tea Party.

At least you give them credit.

Has nothing whatsoever to do with the tea party.

Edit: Ok, that's probably not quite fair. It has little to do with the tea party. Most of the change is increased revenue from taxes, not changes in spending.

barfo
 
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Has nothing whatsoever to do with the tea party.

Edit: Ok, that's probably not quite fair. It has little to do with the tea party. Most of the change is increased revenue from taxes, not changes in spending.

barfo

http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/13/news/economy/budget_cuts_obama/index.htm
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/16/us-usa-budget-idUSTRE71E0ZL20110216
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/04/15/obama-spending-cuts-will-accompany-debt-ceiling-deal/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4323521...l/t/gop-presses-obama-spending-cuts-medicare/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/12/AR2011021204532.html

Obama to propose spending cuts in budget plan aimed at countering conservatives
Sunday, February 13, 2011; 12:02 AM

President Obama will respond to a Republican push for a drastic reduction in government spending by proposing sharp cuts of his own in a fiscal 2012 budget blueprint that aims to trim record federal deficits by $1.1 trillion over the next decade.

"After a decade of rising deficits, this budget asks Washington to live within its means, while at the same time investing in our future," Obama said Saturday in his weekly national address. "It cuts what we can't afford to pay for what we cannot do without."

When it lands Monday on Capitol Hill, Obama's plan will launch a bidding war with Republicans over how deeply and swiftly to cut, as the two parties seek a path to fiscal stability for a nation awash in red ink.
 
http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/13/news/economy/budget_cuts_obama/index.htm
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/16/us-usa-budget-idUSTRE71E0ZL20110216
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/04/15/obama-spending-cuts-will-accompany-debt-ceiling-deal/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4323521...l/t/gop-presses-obama-spending-cuts-medicare/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/12/AR2011021204532.html

Obama to propose spending cuts in budget plan aimed at countering conservatives
Sunday, February 13, 2011; 12:02 AM

President Obama will respond to a Republican push for a drastic reduction in government spending by proposing sharp cuts of his own in a fiscal 2012 budget blueprint that aims to trim record federal deficits by $1.1 trillion over the next decade.

"After a decade of rising deficits, this budget asks Washington to live within its means, while at the same time investing in our future," Obama said Saturday in his weekly national address. "It cuts what we can't afford to pay for what we cannot do without."

When it lands Monday on Capitol Hill, Obama's plan will launch a bidding war with Republicans over how deeply and swiftly to cut, as the two parties seek a path to fiscal stability for a nation awash in red ink.

Quotes from february aren't going to cut it, since the 20% decrease is a decrease in the projections since february.

barfo
 
Quotes from february aren't going to cut it, since the 20% decrease is a decrease in the projections since february.

barfo

They extended the Bush tax cuts and cut payroll taxes. Revenues went up. What gives?
 
Well, barfo, you may be right in that when we reach the end of the worthless money printing that we have nothing to back it with, the end may not be catastrophic, but we can disagree on it. When margin calls and we have to default and so forth, I think it will have a domino effect on wall street, financial industry, hyper inflation... It won't be pretty. At least that's my opinion.
 
Well, barfo, you may be right in that when we reach the end of the worthless money printing that we have nothing to back it with, the end may not be catastrophic, but we can disagree on it. When margin calls and we have to default and so forth, I think it will have a domino effect on wall street, financial industry, hyper inflation... It won't be pretty. At least that's my opinion.

What sort of margin calls are you expecting? Sure, terrible things might happen, but we don't know for sure what will happen. It's the exact same situation as global warming, except that one set of people believes the sky is falling in one case, and everything is perfectly fine in the other case, whereas the other side thinks just the opposite.

My theory is we should listen to the scientists and the economists, but keep an open mind about both issues and not run around screaming "the sky is falling, the sky is falling".
The oceans are not going to boil tomorrow, and the USA isn't bankrupt and won't be anytime in the foreseeable future. There may be some adjustments we should make on both fronts, but we aren't going to get anywhere by exaggerating or denying the problems.

barfo
 

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