U.S. House passes estate tax repeal despite veto threat

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

SlyPokerDog

Woof!
Staff member
Administrator
Joined
Oct 5, 2008
Messages
127,029
Likes
147,632
Points
115
(Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives on Thursday ignored a White House veto threat and passed legislation to repeal the estate tax that hits inherited assets worth $5.4 million or more.

By a mostly partisan 240-179 vote, the Republican-backed bill will be sent to the Senate, where Democrats are expected to use procedural hurdles to try to block it. Even if it passes the Senate, it would likely fail to achieve a two-thirds majority needed to override a veto.

House passage was timed for the week when most Americans file their tax returns. Conservatives, who refer to the estate tax as the "death tax," have long railed against it, arguing it hurts the families of small business owners and farmers.

"It’s past time to repeal this unacceptable tax. Every American deserves the ability to pass their life’s savings to their kids," said Representative Tom Graves, a conservative Republican from Georgia.

Repealing the tax would boost the federal deficit by about $269 billion over 10 years, according to Congress' Joint Committee on Taxation.

Few Americans pay the 40 percent tax on assets above the $5.4 million exclusion amount. About 5,400 estates, equal to 0.2 percent of taxpayers, will owe such taxes in 2015, according to the JCT.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015...3C20150416?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews
 
Sounds like the only hope my children have for the future is me amassing over $5.4 million in my lifetime and bequeathing it to them, because everyone who has less will be well and truly fucked.
 
Small business owners my ass.

Few Americans pay the 40 percent tax on assets above the $5.4 million exclusion amount. About 5,400 estates, equal to 0.2 percent of taxpayers, will owe such taxes in 2015, according to the JCT.

 
Only 5400? Let's go after 5400 realtors instead.

And barfo.
 
despite veto threat?
Seems like an odd way to send out the word. Why would members of the house give a rats ass what Obama thinks? They are sent there to represent the people. I am pretty sure
the majority of people no long think Obama represents them in anyway.
 
Inheritance tax doesn't hurt the inheritors. When my parents died, I wrote a check to the IRS for a quarter-million dollars of inheritance tax. I haven't missed it for a minute. Selfish conservatives try to survive behind their gated communities.

 
Inheritance tax doesn't hurt the inheritors. When my parents died, I wrote a check to the IRS for a quarter-million dollars of inheritance tax. I haven't missed it for a minute. Selfish conservatives try to survive behind their gated communities.



Why didn't you write a check to the Federal Government for the entire inheritance? Why are you so greedy?

It always amazes me that liberals only think the way the government will accept money from them at the point of a gun. Our government will be happy to cash an unsolicited check?

You pay what you want, I'll pay what I want.
 
I'd love to do that, as long as I live under only the part of government I like. Your side pays for, and lives under, the wars, spies, and police. My side pays for, and lives under, the love and sharing. There would need to be a mechanism to keep us apart.

Many years ago when I was designing my utopia, I wondered what it would look like to have multiple governments operating side by side. One town capitalist, one socialist, one fascist, one Confederacy, one feudalist, one caveman, etc. Everyone would get to move around and try them for as long as he wanted before settling down.

There would be a sign on the road at each town's entrance, telling you the town's priorities of ideals, its hierarchy of gods. (There is an infinite number of permutations.) Then I realized that I was envisioning what the great liberal civilization of American Indians had before your war guys exterminated them. Totem poles.
 
This goes against fundamental republican ideology.

Since when are handouts a good thing? These sycophant bourgeois leeches need to get a job. At least drug test them if they are going to get government assistance.

Tax it at 100% and these bratty rich kids can pull themselves up by their bootstraps and join the workforce, maybe make something out of themselves. The american dream.
 
I've done the legwork of looking at businesses for sale. This tax affects businesses like truck stops in Tennessee. Truck stop is worth $7M. To pay the tax, survivors have to cough up (or borrow) $millions. Or sell the business.

It's bad enough the government TAKES peoples' incomes, but taking away life savings and source of income makes no sense at all.
 
So these poor inheritors only got 5 million of their 7million dollars?

I can see why its such a heartbreaking story to you, that's just the saddest thing I've ever heard.
 
So these poor inheritors only got 5 million of their 7million dollars?

I can see why its such a heartbreaking story to you, that's just the saddest thing I've ever heard.

They lost their source of revenue for the family forever. The $5M can't replace that.
 
They lost their source of revenue for the family forever. The $5M can't replace that.

To me, if Joe the plumber's son has to take out a 2 million dollar business loan when he inherits a 7 million dollar business to keep the business going . . . well doesn't seem like that huge of a burden. If he is even half as good of a business person as his father, he should be OK.

I wish I was in his predicament.
 
$2M in debts that the business shouldn't have to take on. That's a lot of risk.

EDIT

Without the tax, the government still would collect capital gains taxes when the business is sold. At least the value/gain is actually realized at that point and by the seller's decision.
 
I mean Jeesh, like I said, its really sad. The poor kids only inherit 5 million dollars. I'll say a prayer for them.
 
The business might have been in the family for generations.

And see my edit above.
 
$2M in debts that the business shouldn't have to take on. That's a lot of risk.

Matter of opinion about whether it is a debt that should have to be taken on.

Give me 5 million after taxes and I'm pretty sure I can roll that into financial security for my family. Especially if given to me in the form of a 7 million dollar successful business that has a 2 million dollars in debt.
 
It's not $5M, it's $2.5M. The govt. TAKES 50% of the short term capital gains because they're forced to sell.

It's none of anyone's business to force anyone to sell their property like this.
 
Last edited:
Yes, great-great grandpappys olde tyme truck stop, passed down through generations.

Cool story.
 
It could be the family farm. Like I said, it's nobody's right to destroy what the family built over generations of time.

The worst part is it'll be some corporation or a 1%er who buys these things at distresses prices.
 
I suppose if thought is parents worked so hard and they deserve to be able to give kids all the money so kids don't have to work . . . I get that. I don't agree and feel that kids should also have to work hard. I guess hearing the "injustice story" . . . still not feeling very sorry for kids, but I understand the idea that parents should be able to give kids everything they have when they die without our country being able to touch it.

My thought is we live in a great country with great opportunity and I don't have a problem with the country getting back a piece of whatever fortune I made when I die. But I do have kids and again understand the other school of thought.
 
Matter of opinion about whether it is a debt that should have to be taken on.

Give me 5 million after taxes and I'm pretty sure I can roll that into financial security for my family. Especially if given to me in the form of a 7 million dollar successful business that has a 2 million dollars in debt.

Geez! After reading this thread, it's makes sense why civil wars are needed every so often.

Here is a list of Ranches for sale in Oregon.

http://fayranches.com/ranches-for-sale/oregon

Take the one for $7,780,000 as an example. Then go barrow the money to pay the tax on it, if you can find it. I seriously doubt you can make enough money with this ranch to make that payment every month while continuing to pay the property tax on the ranch. Your dad just died, but you now 50 some years old have to sell the place you have been working your whole life,
just to pay the tax a bunch of have nots think is great. A system like that calls for war! Thank the Republicans for saving us from the war.
This is not income anyway, it just a recalibration of value to reflect the devaluation of the dollar over time. Why the hell tax that new number? It doesn't represent income. More like confiscation to please the have nots.
 
Last edited:
Let me get out my hankercheif, that poor 50 year old rancher will only get 5 million dollars to retire on for his parents hard work? Unfathomable sadness.
 
Let me get out my hankercheif, that poor 50 year old rancher will only get 5 million dollars to retire on for his parents hard work? Unfathomable sadness.

I can only hope you know how shallow that sentiment really is.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top