Politics Ukraine / Russia (2 Viewers)

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[jonnyboy]

So you guys are all saying if we don’t go to war then we’re going to have to go to war.

I wish I could figure out what you all really want. Lol.

 

[crandc]

In Russia, don't say war. In Florida, don't say gay.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[jonnyboy]

I say we drop Biden over there armed with a spork from KFC. Him and any others who want boots on the ground.

 

[calvin natt]

I’m not going to go back and read a bunch of pages but who wants a war vs per JonnyB

 

[Phatguysrule]

So you guys are all saying if we don’t go to war then we’re going to have to go to war.

I wish I could figure out what you all really want. Lol.

Russia is already at war. Ukraine is at war against their will. Supporting Ukraine isn't the same as going to war.

But Ukraine must win, or at least be so costly for Russia to take that nobody alive would ever think it would be worth doing that again.

 

[Shaboid]

Just imagine if you were trying to buy a gallon of gas with rubles right now. Yeah, that'll be about 1000 rubles/gal.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Fairly-Hard]

I’m not going to go back and read a bunch of pages but who wants a war vs per JonnyB

Not gonna feed the troll anymore.
Obviously a troll. Nobody is that out of touch.

 

[Hoopguru]

Russia is already at war. Ukraine is at war against their will. Supporting Ukraine isn't the same as going to war.

But Ukraine must win, or at least be so costly for Russia to take that nobody alive would ever think it would be worth doing that again.

Putin wants Eastern Ukraine east of the river that runs through Kiev down to ports. My Neighbor across the street is from Crimea been here about 12 years. He's Russian but no way a supporter of Putin, he's the one that believes he after Eastern Ukraine.
He mentioned the Ukrainian people are like his brothers and they would fight an insurgent war that Putin would not want to deal with in the whole country, but he could handle the eastern border once they are land locked. Wants those shipping ports.

 

[Road Ratt]

Trump Suggests Putting Chinese Flags on U.S. Fighter Jets to Bomb Russia: A Closer Look

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Trump Suggests Putting Chinese Flags on U.S. Fighter Jets to Bomb Russia: A Closer Look

Oh that will work.
Can we get Chinese pilots to fly them as well so when they get shot down they can really look the part.

 

[crandc]

American jets don't look like Chinese jets. The very stable genius didn't learn that as commander in chief.

 

[Chris Craig]

Do you think he has reached the point where he doesn't care if he dies, because launching nukes would mean his death as well, and Putin strikes me as the ultimate narcissist.

If he can't have the world, no one can

 

[Chris Craig]

At some time we have to take Putin at his word. He has said he will invade Crimea. He did in 2014. He also said he would invade Ukraine in 2014. He Did.
He said he was going to invade Ukraine again this time. He Did.
He has said he will invade Finland and Poland. He will!

Finland and Poland better join NATO Asap

 

[Phatguysrule]

Trump Suggests Putting Chinese Flags on U.S. Fighter Jets to Bomb Russia: A Closer Look

Military aircraft have IFF technology to "Identify Friend or Foe".

Nobody is looking for flags on military aircraft.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Military aircraft have IFF technology to "Identify Friend or Foe".

Nobody is looking for flags on military aircraft.

Not to mention they might be curious why Chinese planes were coming from US airfields.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Natebishop3]

He's a narcissist but he's worked hard to make sure he gets paid by all the oligarchs. He loves himself and money so I don't think he wants to die.

Well there’s your answer. He won’t use nukes because he would die and I’m sure Putin values his life over anything else in the world.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

So you guys are all saying if we don’t go to war then we’re going to have to go to war.

I wish I could figure out what you all really want. Lol.

Where did I say that?

 

[donkiez]

Nobody seems to bring up how bad pulling out of the Iran deal was for current geopolitics. Now Iran has a reason and an example of why nukes are needed for self defense, their oil on the global market would be really helpful, instead they are all partnered up with the Chinese and Russians against us. Good call Trump, that's some forward thinking by the stable genius.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[BigGameDamian]

Ya like that’s going to go over well if that happens.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

We can see where this is all headed

 

[Orion Bailey]

We can see where this is all headed

wwIII coming to a town near you!

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Seriously. This is a post from someone i know on Facebook.
Like i said before it would be funny if it was not really happening.

"So there are multiple countries that don't want nothing to do with a one world order , Trump was one of them in this country thats why he broke away from the UN , and wanted an American currency backed by gold , Puttin already said he don't want Ukrain he's going after the deep state there, Nazzis run the deep state there , virolagists labs and udrencrhome facility's, but the media who are a part of the hub of deep staters there are creating puttin as a monster, when infact I believe its the polar opposite we shall see in the end all darkness comes to the light"

Notice the lack of basic competency writing the message. Not trying to make the biggest point spelling but just overall lack of education. This man is highly respected by his peers. He spent years in and out of prison. He actually created one of the largest white supremacy gangs in the nation. He is not stupid by any means. His father was the president of a rather large Biker Club. I'm leaving the names off because many of you may actually know this man and the clubs I'm speaking of. In recent years he has been clean and sober and has now created a new club based on a band and the music he writes. That band is named after Thor's Hammer. This is a real thing that many people just don't understand is happening. It IS HAPPENING in this country.

Hundreds of people in the Portland metro area follow this man and what he says daily. He is a rabid Q-Anon follower and the worst part is the way it is fed to the followers. Absolutely everything that is said on any news outlet is said to be lies and that the only real thing is what we find out from the tidbits of extremely vague information that can be interpreted multiple ways to fit the narrative they are pushing. Notice the "One World Order" statement. "Globalists" are one of the many trigger words. All you have to do is listen to any news outlet and they use certain words that seem to trigger his conspiracies. This problem here will not be going away any time soon.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Along with the Ghost of Kyiv and Snake Island.

What is your guys' problem with Ghost of Kyiv and Snake Island. Ukrainians are not lying about how many Russian planes they have shot down or that the guys on the Island actually said Fuck you Russian war ship? What is wrong with trying to create Ukrainian hero story to uplift the morale of a population that is under attack for absolutely no reason. A population that is fighting back against overwhelming odds against an enemy that has absolutely no regard for lives of civilians? An enemy that is blowing up their homes, trying to prevent food getting to them and won't honor ceasefires to allow them to leave? Why would you nitpick against such noble people. There are not American forces fighting in Ukraine and there will not be so what is your big gripe?

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

We’re on the brink of world war and your biggest fear is people who don’t think like you. You found the dumbest person in Portland to try and prove how scary the world is. Most people aren’t that bad.

Only one madman has brought us to the brink of world war.