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oldmangrouch said:
A Jewish president is in league with neo-nazi militias. Riiight
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Not quite, they are neo-nazi battalions that are actually part of the Ukrainian military itself. Not sure why you are questioning it, it’s been admitted to and even excused by some at this point. Brushing something under the rug doesn’t make it false.
 
jonnyboy said:
Not quite, they are neo-nazi battalions that are actually part of the Ukrainian military itself. Not sure why you are questioning it, it’s been admitted to and even excused by some at this point. Brushing something under the rug doesn’t make it false.
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I haven't come across that evidence and wouldn't want to brush it under the rug. Can you provide supporting info?
 
Two Russian Oligarchs Die in Mysterious Circumstances 24 Hours Apart

Questions look set to be asked after two Russian oligarchs, both linked to gas giants, apparently murdered their wives and daughters before killing themselves—within two days of each other.

In both cases, the alarm was raised by the slain families' surviving child.

Former Kremlin official and Gazprombank vice-president Vladislav Avayev, 51, was found dead in his luxury Moscow apartment alongside the bodies of his wife and 13-year-old daughter on Monday. It appeared he had shot them before turning the gun on himself. The bodies were found by distraught 26-year-old daughter Anastasia after she was unable to get hold of her family.

The following day former Novatek deputy chairman Sergey Protosenya, 55, his wife Natalya, 53, and 18-year-old daughter, Maria, were found dead at their Spanish mansion. The scene suggested the women had been stabbed, before Protosenya hanged himself in the garden. The alarm was raised by the couple's teenage son, who was staying in France, after he was unable to reach his parents at their home in the coastal town of Lloret de Mar.

https://www.newsweek.com/oligarchs-murder-suicide-1699766
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Two Russian Oligarchs Die in Mysterious Circumstances 24 Hours Apart

Questions look set to be asked after two Russian oligarchs, both linked to gas giants, apparently murdered their wives and daughters before killing themselves—within two days of each other.

In both cases, the alarm was raised by the slain families' surviving child.

Former Kremlin official and Gazprombank vice-president Vladislav Avayev, 51, was found dead in his luxury Moscow apartment alongside the bodies of his wife and 13-year-old daughter on Monday. It appeared he had shot them before turning the gun on himself. The bodies were found by distraught 26-year-old daughter Anastasia after she was unable to get hold of her family.

The following day former Novatek deputy chairman Sergey Protosenya, 55, his wife Natalya, 53, and 18-year-old daughter, Maria, were found dead at their Spanish mansion. The scene suggested the women had been stabbed, before Protosenya hanged himself in the garden. The alarm was raised by the couple's teenage son, who was staying in France, after he was unable to reach his parents at their home in the coastal town of Lloret de Mar.

https://www.newsweek.com/oligarchs-murder-suicide-1699766
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Interesting....
 
Russia's biggest chemical plant burns down in second mystery fire in a day
Dramatic footage shows smoke billowing from the Dmitrievsky Chemical Plant in the city of Kineshma

A huge blaze has broken out in one of Russia's biggest chemical plants.

Dramatic footage shows smoke billowing from the Dmitrievsky Chemical Plant in the city of Kineshma, around 250 miles east of Moscow.

The site, the largest manufacturer of chemical solvents in the country, is around 950km from the border with Ukraine.

It is not currently known what caused the fire to break out - but it comes on the same day that a huge defence plant blaze broke out, killing seven people.

The Dmitrievsky Chemical Plant describes itself as the largest producer of butyl acetate and industrial solvents in Russia and Eastern Europe.

It is also the supplier of a wide range of chemical and petrochemical products in Russia and in the world.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-russias-biggest-chemical-plant-26767453
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Two Russian Oligarchs Die in Mysterious Circumstances 24 Hours Apart

Questions look set to be asked after two Russian oligarchs, both linked to gas giants, apparently murdered their wives and daughters before killing themselves—within two days of each other.

In both cases, the alarm was raised by the slain families' surviving child.

Former Kremlin official and Gazprombank vice-president Vladislav Avayev, 51, was found dead in his luxury Moscow apartment alongside the bodies of his wife and 13-year-old daughter on Monday. It appeared he had shot them before turning the gun on himself. The bodies were found by distraught 26-year-old daughter Anastasia after she was unable to get hold of her family.

The following day former Novatek deputy chairman Sergey Protosenya, 55, his wife Natalya, 53, and 18-year-old daughter, Maria, were found dead at their Spanish mansion. The scene suggested the women had been stabbed, before Protosenya hanged himself in the garden. The alarm was raised by the couple's teenage son, who was staying in France, after he was unable to reach his parents at their home in the coastal town of Lloret de Mar.

https://www.newsweek.com/oligarchs-murder-suicide-1699766
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Gee whilikers...nothing suspicious here!

In all seriousness, if you were one of the richest people on the planet, would you just let some psycho have you and your family killed? At the least, wouldn't you have a few hit-men on retainer tasked with avenging you?
 
Russia's ailing command: 'Bloated and slouching' Putin is seen gripping a table amid cancer battle rumours as he meets 'slurring' defence minister Shoigu - who needs to read from notes 'following heart attack'
  • Vladimir Putin was seen gripping a table whilst slouching in chair during his meeting yesterday
  • Putin claimed in meeting with Sergei Shoigu that Mariupol had been 'liberated' by Russia
  • Shoigu also appeared to be struggling, with defence minister slurring his words and reading from a script
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-rumours-meets-slurring-defence-minister.html
 
Putin's mighty war machine on the SCRAPHEAP: After two months of fighting, Russia has now lost 873 tanks, 179 aircraft, 21,800 troops... and the pride of its navy is lying on the bottom of the Black Sea
  • Ukraine's land forces released new figures today, suggesting more than 21,000 Russian troops have died
  • A total of 873 tanks are said to have been destroyed, along with 2,238 armoured vehicles and 333 aircraft
  • The flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet - the Moskva - sank last week after being hit by a Ukrainian missile
  • Putin's troops pulled back from Kyiv in late March, suffering low morale amid stiff resistance and heavy losses
  • Russia has now launched an assault designed to seize territory in the Donbas region in the east of Ukraine
  • But experts believe the war could go on for months or even years as Ukraine's military continues to defy the invaders, while Western allies continue to send financial aid and arms shipments to the defenders
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...t-21-800-troops-just-two-months-fighting.html
 
As Sly posted, russians taking heavy losses and these figures confirmed recently by some russian leaked reports. Ukraine is losing about one third of what russians are. As Sly also pointed out there have been a lot of mysterious fires at military and military/industrial sites in russia lately, another report today of a military base in the far east. I don't think Ukraine has the missile capacity to reach any of these sites so it's very odd whatever is happening.
Biggest development is all the mobile howitzers (and plenty of ammo for them) that are coming in to Ukraine from a number of countries, principally USA. These should be a game-changer as soon as Ukrainians are trained on them and they are moved to the eastern front. Also, Ukraine now has more tanks in Ukraine than the russians do, due to captures and shipments form the west. They are just trying to hold the line until all the new equipment is in place. So far successful at that. It still appears that Ukraine will be able to win this war as long as it remains a conventional war.
 
Dozens of Bucha citizens were killed by tiny metal darts blasted from Russia rockets, forensics say after it was revealed Putin's forces are using the WW1-era weapon in Ukraine
  • Russia has been accused of firing 'indiscriminate' dart-like shells over Bucha
  • 'Flechette' munitions blast thousands of little shrapnel-like pieces over wide area
  • They were first used in World War 1 and are not commonly in use today
  • Forensic experts declared they found the flechettes in civilian corpses in Bucha
  • Though not illegal, the use of flechettes is widely condemned in built-up areas
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...rts-blasted-Russia-rockets-forensics-say.html
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
As Sly posted, russians taking heavy losses and these figures confirmed recently by some russian leaked reports. Ukraine is losing about one third of what russians are. As Sly also pointed out there have been a lot of mysterious fires at military and military/industrial sites in russia lately, another report today of a military base in the far east. I don't think Ukraine has the missile capacity to reach any of these sites so it's very odd whatever is happening.
Biggest development is all the mobile howitzers (and plenty of ammo for them) that are coming in to Ukraine from a number of countries, principally USA. These should be a game-changer as soon as Ukrainians are trained on them and they are moved to the eastern front. Also, Ukraine now has more tanks in Ukraine than the russians do, due to captures and shipments form the west. They are just trying to hold the line until all the new equipment is in place. So far successful at that. It still appears that Ukraine will be able to win this war as long as it remains a conventional war.
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Love it. So proud of your countrymen and women!
I've also heard reports that Ukraine has now mobilized a larger military force than Russia has. Russia has also moved soldiers from its own eastern borders into and around Ukraine. Russia is leaving its country unguarded trying to keep up with Ukrainian manpower.

Ukraine is getting this done, and they will be the end of Russia as we know it.
 
Video Uncovered! US Planning This For Years



The video in question begins around the 14:30 minute mark, and ends around the 23:30 minute mark. The rest is the usual Lee Camp ranting.
 
Road Ratt said:
Video Uncovered! US Planning This For Years



The video in question begins around the 14:30 minute mark, and ends around the 23:30 minute mark. The rest is the usual Lee Camp ranting.
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I don't think that's much of a surprise to anybody... The US has no doubt hoped Russia would be this stupid all along.
 
Phatguysrule said:
There will be more. Ukraine will be the end of Putin. Very possibly the end of Russia.
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If it's the end of Russia and Putin is left in a corner, what's to stop him from hitting the fuck it button and starting a thermo nuclear apocalypse?
 
Chris Craig said:
If it's the end of Russia and Putin is left in a corner, what's to stop him from hitting the fuck it button and starting thermo nuclear war.
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Putin will be taken down before the end of Russia. He'll be taken out from within. Or, less likely IMO, he will make a deal for protection in another country to save his life.

He's killing those closest to him. He is far weaker than he's letting on. It won't be long now. Another year. Two at most. Putin will be out and there will be nobody with any leadership ability to step up. He's killed anybody who could challenge him.

He'll be killed before he's ready to give up and commit suicide (suicide by nukes).

*Edit* And we get all big leg up on China as well. In fact, it may be thw end of China as a super power as well. They have no way to get enough energy now.

It sucks, but this is all good for us here in the US.
 
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Chris Craig said:
If it's the end of Russia and Putin is left in a corner, what's to stop him from hitting the fuck it button and starting a thermo nuclear apocalypse?
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Here's the thing. Most of the "Hitting the Button" thing takes more than one person. As a matter of fact it comes down to essentially a complete group of people having to be on the same page. Now I'm not saying he can't find a number of like minded people but getting them to essentially end the world might be tough?
 
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