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Phatguysrule said:
Agreed. Any Russian troops engaging on behalf of Russia at this point are complicit, at the very least.

The only honorable solution for Russian troops is to defect and help Ukraine fight against Putin. There will never be a better opportunity for the people to take that country back than right now.
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Take it back? When did the Russian people ever have their country?
 
The remains of a missile that struck the train station in Ukraine was painted with the words, for the children, in Russian.

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Chris Craig said:
The remains of a missile that struck the train station in Ukraine was painted with the words, for the children, in Russian.

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I read about that. How tragic and sick. I wish someone would just off Putin. I really do. Everyone hates him. Even his own people.
 
ABM said:
I read about that. How tragic and sick. I wish someone would just off Putin. I really do. Everyone hates him. Even his own people.
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Hate him? If so, it doesn't seem to stop them from murdering Ukrainians to feed his bloated ego and twisted fantasies.
 
ABM said:
I read about that. How tragic and sick. I wish someone would just off Putin. I really do. Everyone hates him. Even his own people.
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Unfortunately, not true. He has his highest approval rating ever recently, above 80%.
 


Russia's newest national hero. Not an outlier, not an exception, this is 21st century Russia.
 
oldmangrouch said:


Russia's newest national hero. Not an outlier, not an exception, this is 21st century Russia.
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Um no, that’s an extreme outlier. Normal functioning humans in ANY society don’t support that freak shit. How much time have you spent in Russia? Were they running around raping babies? Your xenophobia is off the rails. People in Russia don’t have any more control over their dictator than you do. Calling them all rape encouragers because of the actions of their government is just flat out stupid.
You know there are baby-raping freaks right here in America too, right? What does that make us?
 
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jonnyboy said:
Um no, that’s an extreme outlier.
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Is it?

Russians burned swastikas into victims’ bodies, raped girls as young as 10: reports

Russian soldiers have raped girls as young as 10 and pulled out Ukrainians’ tongues — while also burning swastikas into their victims’ bodies, Ukrainian officials said Tuesday.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told the United Nations Security Council that the Russians had committed “the most terrible war crimes” since World War Two and terrorized civilians “just for their pleasure.”

“They killed entire families —adults and children — and they tried to burn the bodies,” Zelensky said in a video address on Tuesday. “I am addressing you on behalf of the people who honor the memory of the deceased every single day.”

He described how Russian forces targeted civilians in their cars and on the street, as well as in their own homes.

“Some of them were shot on the streets, others were thrown into wells so they died there in suffering… Civilians were crushed by tanks while sitting in their cars in the middle of the road — just for their pleasure,” he said.

He also claimed the militants raped and killed Ukrainian women in front of their families.

“They cut off limbs, slashed their throats… Their tongues were pulled out only because the aggressor did not hear what they wanted to hear from them,” he said.

“This is no different from other terrorists, such as Daesh,” Zelensky said, using an alternate name for ISIS. “Here it is done by a member of the United Nations Security Council.”

The harrowing account comes as further allegations emerged that Russian soldiers have raped girls as young as 10 and burned swastikas into their victims’ bodies.

“Russian soldiers loot, rape and kill,” insisted Lesia Vasylenko, a Ukrainian member of Parliament who is among those accusing Russia of genocide.

“Children were found with their hands tied and shot dead. [Russian] soldiers killed them because they could!” tweeted the Kyiv-based politician among reports of hundreds massacred in the capital’s suburbs.

Vasylenko said that “10-year-old girls” have been found with “vaginal and rectal tears” after being raped, while dead women have been found “with swastika shaped burns.”

The official shared an image of one such Nazi symbol scarred into flesh, insisting it was found on the “tortured body of a raped and killed woman.”

“I’m speechless. My mind is paralyzed with anger and fear and hatred,” she said. “Russian Men did this. And Russian mothers raised them. A nation of immoral criminals,” she wrote.

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The swastika-like brand that has been found on several Ukrainian women after they were tortured and killed.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/05/russians-burned-swastikas-into-victims-bodies-report/
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Is it?

Russians burned swastikas into victims’ bodies, raped girls as young as 10: reports

Russian soldiers have raped girls as young as 10 and pulled out Ukrainians’ tongues — while also burning swastikas into their victims’ bodies, Ukrainian officials said Tuesday.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told the United Nations Security Council that the Russians had committed “the most terrible war crimes” since World War Two and terrorized civilians “just for their pleasure.”

“They killed entire families —adults and children — and they tried to burn the bodies,” Zelensky said in a video address on Tuesday. “I am addressing you on behalf of the people who honor the memory of the deceased every single day.”

He described how Russian forces targeted civilians in their cars and on the street, as well as in their own homes.

“Some of them were shot on the streets, others were thrown into wells so they died there in suffering… Civilians were crushed by tanks while sitting in their cars in the middle of the road — just for their pleasure,” he said.

He also claimed the militants raped and killed Ukrainian women in front of their families.

“They cut off limbs, slashed their throats… Their tongues were pulled out only because the aggressor did not hear what they wanted to hear from them,” he said.

“This is no different from other terrorists, such as Daesh,” Zelensky said, using an alternate name for ISIS. “Here it is done by a member of the United Nations Security Council.”

The harrowing account comes as further allegations emerged that Russian soldiers have raped girls as young as 10 and burned swastikas into their victims’ bodies.

“Russian soldiers loot, rape and kill,” insisted Lesia Vasylenko, a Ukrainian member of Parliament who is among those accusing Russia of genocide.

“Children were found with their hands tied and shot dead. [Russian] soldiers killed them because they could!” tweeted the Kyiv-based politician among reports of hundreds massacred in the capital’s suburbs.

Vasylenko said that “10-year-old girls” have been found with “vaginal and rectal tears” after being raped, while dead women have been found “with swastika shaped burns.”

The official shared an image of one such Nazi symbol scarred into flesh, insisting it was found on the “tortured body of a raped and killed woman.”

“I’m speechless. My mind is paralyzed with anger and fear and hatred,” she said. “Russian Men did this. And Russian mothers raised them. A nation of immoral criminals,” she wrote.

russians-rape-children-torture-claims-feat-image.jpg


The swastika-like brand that has been found on several Ukrainian women after they were tortured and killed.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/05/russians-burned-swastikas-into-victims-bodies-report/
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Fuckin' Bastards.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Is it?

Russians burned swastikas into victims’ bodies, raped girls as young as 10: reports

Russian soldiers have raped girls as young as 10 and pulled out Ukrainians’ tongues — while also burning swastikas into their victims’ bodies, Ukrainian officials said Tuesday.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told the United Nations Security Council that the Russians had committed “the most terrible war crimes” since World War Two and terrorized civilians “just for their pleasure.”

“They killed entire families —adults and children — and they tried to burn the bodies,” Zelensky said in a video address on Tuesday. “I am addressing you on behalf of the people who honor the memory of the deceased every single day.”

He described how Russian forces targeted civilians in their cars and on the street, as well as in their own homes.

“Some of them were shot on the streets, others were thrown into wells so they died there in suffering… Civilians were crushed by tanks while sitting in their cars in the middle of the road — just for their pleasure,” he said.

He also claimed the militants raped and killed Ukrainian women in front of their families.

“They cut off limbs, slashed their throats… Their tongues were pulled out only because the aggressor did not hear what they wanted to hear from them,” he said.

“This is no different from other terrorists, such as Daesh,” Zelensky said, using an alternate name for ISIS. “Here it is done by a member of the United Nations Security Council.”

The harrowing account comes as further allegations emerged that Russian soldiers have raped girls as young as 10 and burned swastikas into their victims’ bodies.

“Russian soldiers loot, rape and kill,” insisted Lesia Vasylenko, a Ukrainian member of Parliament who is among those accusing Russia of genocide.

“Children were found with their hands tied and shot dead. [Russian] soldiers killed them because they could!” tweeted the Kyiv-based politician among reports of hundreds massacred in the capital’s suburbs.

Vasylenko said that “10-year-old girls” have been found with “vaginal and rectal tears” after being raped, while dead women have been found “with swastika shaped burns.”

The official shared an image of one such Nazi symbol scarred into flesh, insisting it was found on the “tortured body of a raped and killed woman.”

“I’m speechless. My mind is paralyzed with anger and fear and hatred,” she said. “Russian Men did this. And Russian mothers raised them. A nation of immoral criminals,” she wrote.

russians-rape-children-torture-claims-feat-image.jpg


The swastika-like brand that has been found on several Ukrainian women after they were tortured and killed.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/05/russians-burned-swastikas-into-victims-bodies-report/
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Yes, these are outliers. The vast majority of citizens don’t support any of that behavior and they aren’t responsible for it because of where they live. Baby rapists aren’t “national heroes” in Russia as he proclaimed. Nor is baby rape a defining characteristic of 21st century Russia, as he also flatly claimed. Most people there don’t want the conflict their government started, or the atrocities they’ve committed. He’s very bluntly just being xenophobic against an entire population because it’s what all the war hawks on television are pushing. I’m sure the average Russian hates us because of our freedom, just like the Muslims after 9/11 right? Showing horrible images doesn’t justify contempt for a couple hundred million people who didn’t even take part in it.
 
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jonnyboy said:
Yes, these are outliers. The vast majority of citizens don’t support any of that behavior and they aren’t responsible for it because of where they live. Baby rapists aren’t “national heroes” in Russia as he proclaimed. Nor is baby rape a defining characteristic of 21st century Russia, as he also flatly claimed. Most people there don’t want the conflict their government started, or the atrocities they’ve committed. He’s very bluntly just being xenophobic against an entire population because it’s what all the war hawks on television are pushing. I’m sure the average Russian hates us because of our freedom, just like the Muslims after 9/11. Showing horrible images doesn’t justify contempt for a couple hundred million people who didn’t even take part in it.
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It's their government that is responsible, the same they voted for multiple times. Now, they're stuck.
 
Lanny said:
It's their government that is responsible, the same they voted for multiple times. Now, they're stuck.
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How legitimate is the vote is in a country where the opposition candidates disappear or die under strange circumstances? I bet a transparent election would wield different results than what the last twenty years have gotten them.
 
jonnyboy said:
How legitimate is the vote is in a country where the opposition candidates disappear or die under strange circumstances? I bet a transparent election would wield different results than what the last twenty years have gotten them.
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I pray you're right but not thoroughly convinced.
 
Lanny said:
Their bad choices are minuscule in comparison.
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The whole decline of west coast proves you wrong. The homeless crisis that democrats aren't doing anything about proves you wrong. Biden sending more money to the defense budget than it would take to take care of America's numerous national security crises proves you wrong. But both parties supporters see only what they want to see. The democrats don't see their parties corruption, no more than the republicans see their parties corruption. Neither side cares when it comes to their "Untouchable" democrats and republicans. Speak out against one party, and that very same party speaks out against you. Both parties supporters have literally made our government untouchable. :shitstorm:

But we both obviously see our government from different viewpoints. I see both parties corruption, not just the republicans.
 
Road Ratt said:
The whole decline of west coast proves you wrong. The homeless crisis that democrats aren't doing anything about proves you wrong. Biden sending more money to the defense budget than it would take to take care of America's numerous national security crises proves you wrong. But both parties supporters see only what they want to see. The democrats don't see their parties corruption, no more than the republicans see their parties corruption. Neither side cares when it comes to their "Untouchable" democrats and republicans. Speak out against one party, and that very same party speaks out against you. Both parties supporters have literally made our government untouchable. :shitstorm:

But we both obviously see our government from different viewpoints. I see both parties corruption, not just the republicans.
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Homelessness is a national problem and thus needs to be addressed by do nothing Republicans in Congress.
Corruption has always been a national problem and you may read above what needs to be done.
 
Road Ratt said:
The whole decline of west coast proves you wrong. The homeless crisis that democrats aren't doing anything about proves you wrong. Biden sending more money to the defense budget than it would take to take care of America's numerous national security crises proves you wrong. But both parties supporters see only what they want to see. The democrats don't see their parties corruption, no more than the republicans see their parties corruption. Neither side cares when it comes to their "Untouchable" democrats and republicans. Speak out against one party, and that very same party speaks out against you. Both parties supporters have literally made our government untouchable. :shitstorm:

But we both obviously see our government from different viewpoints. I see both parties corruption, not just the republicans.
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The social issues they press us to bicker about in partisan form are the least of their worries, and only a distraction from the financial demolition of the working class they are all complicit in.
 
jonnyboy said:
The social issues they press us to bicker about in partisan form are the least of their worries, and only a distraction from the financial demolition of the working class they are all complicit in.
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Whatever you think of it, it's the government that the American people voted for and therefore deserve.

barfo
 
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