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bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I wouldn't have gotten a step.
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I think the only one i was torn on was having a father figure. I spent summers with my dad and got an occasional phone call growing up. Everything else no. Parents divorced, mom took the first $500 i ever made from cutting lawns all summer to pay rent while i was visiting dad. Spent quite a while not sure if i was going to eat. Never got into college until i could pay my own way.

I find it interesting that this is supposed to make white people see how privileged they are. Why doesnt it show black people that family is important so stop procreating with every woman that will open her legs? Pretty much all the experiment did was prove if you grow up with strong family structure you'll get a head start in life. He said they didnt have a choice. Sure they didnt have a choice for what their parents did and how they acted, but they do have a choice not to follow suit. The fact that they struggled should build in them more of a drive not to repeat the mistakes of their parents.
 
A big problem with illustrations like this is that even identifying a person's advantages won't impact their perception of privilege if that person doesn't actually view those things as an advantage. For example, the sets of steps I would have been able to take would have been for "not having worried about my cell phone being shut off", "not having to help my parents with the bills" and "not having to worry where my next meal came from" (all of which are essentially the same thing--not growing up in poverty--but that's a separate issue), but I don't really see those as advantages to my success in life. Had I grown up in poverty, I still would have gone to public school, I still would have had no money when I graduated high school, I still would have had no access to a decent job until after I was 18, I still would have been lucky to have $900 to buy my first car, etc.

Long story short, if I don't see the elements of my privilege as contributing to privilege, then naming them won't help me understand privilege.
 
rasheedfan2005 said:
I think the only one i was torn on was having a father figure. I spent summers with my dad and got an occasional phone call growing up. Everything else no. Parents divorced, mom took the first $500 i ever made from cutting lawns all summer to pay rent while i was visiting dad. Spent quite a while not sure if i was going to eat. Never got into college until i could pay my own way.

I find it interesting that this is supposed to make white people see how privileged they are. Why doesnt it show black people that family is important so stop procreating with every woman that will open her legs? Pretty much all the experiment did was prove if you grow up with strong family structure you'll get a head start in life. He said they didnt have a choice. Sure they didnt have a choice for what their parents did and how they acted, but they do have a choice not to follow suit. The fact that they struggled should build in them more of a drive not to repeat the mistakes of their parents.
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Exactly my story. Had no money, helped mom by picking berries when I was 5 up until highschool.

I had a strong grandmother who worked in the laundry at Shilo Inn to help my mom.

We were poor as shit. There are plenty of reasons I don't have kids but my struggle as a child is the main reason.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
A big problem with illustrations like this is that even identifying a person's advantages won't impact their perception of privilege if that person doesn't actually view those things as an advantage. For example, the sets of steps I would have been able to take would have been for "not having worried about my cell phone being shut off", "not having to help my parents with the bills" and "not having to worry where my next meal came from" (all of which are essentially the same thing--not growing up in poverty--but that's a separate issue), but I don't really see those as advantages to my success in life. Had I grown up in poverty, I still would have gone to public school, I still would have had no money when I graduated high school, I still would have had no access to a decent job until after I was 18, I still would have been lucky to have $900 to buy my first car, etc.

Long story short, if I don't see the elements of my privilege as contributing to privilege, then naming them won't help me understand privilege.
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I have white privilege in tons of ways as an adult. Being a poor kid wasn't one of them.

Living in a moldy slug infested house wasn't a privilege growing up.

We had a refrigerator, but friends who had new ones with ice makers were RICH!!!
 
rasheedfan2005 said:
I think the only one i was torn on was having a father figure. I spent summers with my dad and got an occasional phone call growing up. Everything else no. Parents divorced, mom took the first $500 i ever made from cutting lawns all summer to pay rent while i was visiting dad. Spent quite a while not sure if i was going to eat. Never got into college until i could pay my own way.

I find it interesting that this is supposed to make white people see how privileged they are. Why doesnt it show black people that family is important so stop procreating with every woman that will open her legs? Pretty much all the experiment did was prove if you grow up with strong family structure you'll get a head start in life. He said they didnt have a choice. Sure they didnt have a choice for what their parents did and how they acted, but they do have a choice not to follow suit. The fact that they struggled should build in them more of a drive not to repeat the mistakes of their parents.
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Because it doesn't use racism as a factor in determining who will do this. WTF are you even talking about? I'm a 41 year old black man with on child who's 11.

That's right MF!! I waited and PROTECTED myself until I was able to have a child (30 years old). GTFO with your stereotyping.
 
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If all you got out of this was that privilege means you have vasts amounts of money, you missed the point. Shamefully so.
 
dviss1 said:
If all you got out of this was that privilege means you have vasts amounts of money, you missed the point. Shamefully so.
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It's more likely that they lack perspective, so when given a new one, they get scared and revert. I could say more but that's as tame as I'll put it.
 
Strenuus said:
It's more likely that they lack perspective, so when given a new one, they get scared and revert. I could say more but that's as tame as I'll put it.
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Thinking white privilege means you were born with a silver spoon is where those who don't think it exists reside.
 
Brilliant clip dviss.....something I'll pass on to a lot of folks
 
dviss1 said:
Thinking white privilege means you were born with a silver spoon is where those who don't think it exists reside.
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Maybe it's just me, but perspective, compassion, and empathy are innate. I wish it were innate in the world, but different upbringings and such.

Have you ever wondered what will happen when the generation from the 40's and 50's are gone? Like, it sucks to think about because they are people... but ideology wise and such... and then what they passed down (especially in certain parts of the country/world)... is it just a revolving door?

There has been MAJOR societal change and movement towards the positive, until someone happened. I love that there isn't people laying down, and they are out there fighting.

The main thing I always say to people is: "It literally makes no sense why people can't have basic rights. They are a human, their definiments should not result in them losing rights and benefits unless they are in jail for a crime they committed. Being a human shouldn't mean picking and choosing what rights they have." It's literally made no sense to me for as long as I can remember that all people aren't afforded rights and healthcare based on arbitrary matters.

And don't even bring up money (saying this generically, not to you)... money is nothing, human lives are important.

Think about the people.
 
Strenuus said:
Maybe it's just me, but perspective, compassion, and empathy are innate. I wish it were innate in the world, but different upbringings and such.

Have you ever wondered what will happen when the generation from the 40's and 50's are gone? Like, it sucks to think about because they are people... but ideology wise and such... and then what they passed down (especially in certain parts of the country/world)... is it just a revolving door?

There has been MAJOR societal change and movement towards the positive, until someone happened. I love that there isn't people laying down, and they are out there fighting.

The main thing I always say to people is: "It literally makes no sense why people can't have basic rights. They are a human, their definiments should not result in them losing rights and benefits unless they are in jail for a crime they committed. Being a human shouldn't mean picking and choosing what rights they have." It's literally made no sense to me for as long as I can remember that all people aren't afforded rights and healthcare based on arbitrary matters.

And don't even bring up money (saying this generically, not to you)... money is nothing, human lives are important.

Think about the people.
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Great post @Strenuus.

:smiley-beerchug:
 
dviss1 said:
Because it doesn't use racism as a factor in determining who will do this. WTF are you even talking about? I'm a 41 year old black man with on child who's 11.

That's right MF!! I waited and PROTECTED myself until I was able to have a child (30 years old). GTFO with your stereotyping.
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The video you showed was all about race and he made it a point in his presentation and you made it a point to bring in white privilege.

Im always happy when people dont allow themselves to become a stereotype. I have no doubt you are a great dad even if you tell your son to be aware of the white devil.
 
riverman said:
See the documentary film "Happy".....film about the happiest people on earth..it's a great film covering different cultures
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I liked it. Reminded me that family is more important than money. I kind of combined it with the minimalism documentary.

I like using my money to do fun things with the family rather than buying us shit we dont need.
 
I love how you guys just swallow this garbage and don't even stop to think about it.

DON'T STEREOTYPE!!!!! you'll say.

Then the dipshit talking says if it was a fair race he guarantees these black dudes would smoke all of them.

I agree that white privilege is a real thing and it sucks. This video doesn't do shit.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I love how you guys just swallow this garbage and don't even stop to think about it.

DON'T STEREOTYPE!!!!! you'll say.

Then the dipshit talking says if it was a fair race he guarantees these black dudes would smoke all of them.

I agree that white privilege is a real thing and it sucks. This video doesn't do shit.
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It’s just another one of those stupid viral pandering videos honestly. People buy this shit all the time and share it on Facebook. Shits dumb
 
D there is a flaw with this though.

First, let me say that the point is valid and true and deep.

However.

As a man of a household, Its my responsibility to take care of my family. That may include my children's children and their children.

So lets say one of the kids in the video who were not able to take one single step, is able to succeed in life regardless, and build a foundation, castle, nest egg, whatever you wanna call it. And he is successful enough to put his children through college. So his child is able to take all of those steps forward that his father was not able to do.
Is it not that family's right to give their children these privileges?

Now I do know if you go back through the rich families of America and their history, the bulk of it was made on slave labor and buying(claiming) and selling of land.
But there are also many rich families who made their fortunes through innovation and creativity.

So I ask you. What is the cut off for a family to not spoil their children's children's children if they were able to be that successful in life to be able to do so?
Is there a cut off? Is their an obligation to then share their earnings with those who are less determined or less privileged, because their parents were not as innovative, or cutthroat?
 
Cippy91 said:
It’s just another one of those stupid viral pandering videos honestly. People buy this shit all the time and share it on Facebook. Shits dumb
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I think it does a disservice to everyone. It reinforces the stereotypes everyone says they dislike.

But hey, it has good elevator music and some passionate speaking. Of course people who do understand white privilege will see it and think this is the ticket to get whites to understand. If they don't get it after seeing THIS well that is just horrible. Sarcasm if course.

Anyone know the year Atlanta last had a white mayor? Huh Bueller?
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I think it does a disservice to everyone. It reinforces the stereotypes everyone says they dislike.

But hey, it has good elevator music and some passionate speaking. Of course people who do understand white privilege will see it and think this is the ticket to get whites to understand. If they don't get it after seeing THIS well that is just horrible. Sarcasm if course.

Anyone know the year Atlanta last had a white mayor? Huh Bueller?
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Atlanta has white people?
 
rasheedfan2005 said:
Atlanta has white people?
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A growing number apparently. My wife was there three weeks ago and her boss took her and her co-workers on a little trip to some outdoor mall somewhere downtown at night. Apparently this place had been closed for some time.

They asked a nice female security guard about it and she told them they needed to go right back to their hotel room for their own safety.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
A growing number apparently. My wife was there three weeks ago and her boss took her and her co-workers on a little trip to some outdoor mall somewhere downtown at night. Apparently this place had been closed for some time.

They asked a nice female security guard about it and she told them they needed to go right back to their hotel room for their own safety.
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Lmao i had that happen once. A realator met me at a house i wanted to look at and he was like oh shit bro we cant be here i didnt know you were white. I was like relax thats why i carry. He was like no i cant sell you this house. The neighbors kidnapped an asian guy and robbed him repeatedly until he moved they will get you even worse. At this point i wanted to stay just to be a dick but i decided id rather not have to pull my gun everytime i get home, plus i didnt want my dog fucked with while i was at work.
 
dviss1 said:
If all you got out of this was that privilege means you have vasts amounts of money, you missed the point. Shamefully so.
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That isn’t all I got or of it but that is what he bulk of it is about. 90% of the questions require money in the pocket to take the steps. Nothing more.
So please explain the point?

To Me the point was if you come from a poverty stricken family, you will start behind in life.
If you come from a family with wealth, you will start ahead in the game of life.

What am I missing?
 
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