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PS4 is the clear winner and if I am going to buy a new console then that is one. However, why not just stick with the PS3 for a while or pick up a used PS3 (they will go way down in price) if you don't already have one?

Gotta have the best and newest thing, lol. $400 is in my price range too, it it was any higher, i wouldn't have pre-ordered until a price drop.
 
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You mean you nerds can talk to each other while you play the games?
 
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It looks like Battlefield 4 will be 1080p @ 60 fps with 64 players, just like 3 was on the pc. You console only guys are going to jizz your pants.
 
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I'll be getting a XBOX One, but they are very similar.

I don't mind allowing the publishers to not allow used games (it is up to the publisher, not Microsoft) because 1) I don't but used games and 2) More money to the publishers from less used games and piracy means more and better games released.

I also really like not having to worry about moving disks around. We have two xbox 360s and it is pain to move the disks around. Being able to log in at a friends house and play your games there even if you don't have the disk there (and he/she hasn't bought the game) has to be a little appealing don't you think? (Unlike what the video linked here says that you can ONLY play the game on the system where it was installed... which is NOT correct... in fact there are lot of things incorrect in the video) Also... I don't know how many disks my kids have scratched and they stopped working. Won't be a worry soon (unless you have PS4). You can also transfer rights to someone else to give them the game, and I think there is a loaning feature also.

Internet connection doesn't bother me... seriously... who doesn't have an internet connection? It isn't like if your internet stops for an hour all your games do... and almost all the games I play multi player anyway... lol. Again, it is done to cut down piracy which I think is a great thing.

Privacy doesn't bother me either. Well, it does, but I don't expect privacy when I am talking in an *online* game. It is like talking in public. Microsoft has spent a lot of time putting effort into safe guarding privacy, and compare that to Sony which basically left the entire playstation network unsecured because they didn't think anyone would bother to hack it (if you call it a hack when you access unsecured info that oh... happens to contain credit cards).

I like the fact you don't even have to sign in (face recognition) and you can swap positions on the couch or change controllers and it knows where you are (because the control itself knows where it is, and the Kinect know where you are.)

The TV integration could be interesting too... I hate navigating set top box menus. Wished they allowed DVR capability though... but maybe they will add that later)

I think it is a good thing that Sony is going to charge for playstation network because it will cut down on the riff raff, which was part of their problem I think. For one paying for it cuts a certain element out of the picture, and the service can also be cut off if you violate policies.

I don't but that gamers are getting screwed by use game markets. Honestly I am not entirely sure it was legal to begin with... though obviously no one wanted to fight that fight. You don't own software like a car or something like that. I am all for more money going to the people who make the games and less to people who don't (sorry gamestop). If a publisher makes the same game on the XBOX One and PS4, and they start seeing they make a lot more money on the XBOX One system because people are not buying used games for 5 or 10 dollars less from gamestop, where do you think they are going to focus their development efforts? It won't be on the one that makes them less money.

Both the systems look very very similar, and I don't think anyone is wrong with going with either. The hardware being similar to PC's is going to be positive for everyone.
 
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Internet connection doesn't bother me... seriously... who doesn't have an internet connection? It isn't like if your internet stops for an hour all your games do... and almost all the games I play multi player anyway... lol. Again, it is done to cut down piracy which I think is a great thing.


Currently I dont in my living situation. Havent had any at home (other than phone internet) for 2 1/2 months. Would suck to not be able to play single player games because of that.

If a publisher makes the same game on the XBOX One and PS4, and they start seeing they make a lot more money on the XBOX One system because people are not buying used games for 5 or 10 dollars less from gamestop, where do you think they are going to focus their development efforts? It won't be on the one that makes them less money.

I could agree with that.. but this part still remains to be seen. If games are on equal sales on both consoles then yeah that would make sense.. but if there is less of an install base on one consol (More people buying PS4's for example) then they could be making more money up front with a game, than with what they would lose(?) by going more towards DRM
 
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I think it said something like 20% of the 360 owners has never taken their console online, not a large number but you shouldn't be forced to log online everyday, especially to play single player games. I also don't like how you can't rent games for the most part anymore on the Xbox. I don't want to pay $60 for a game like NBA Live only to find out it sucks, and then not be able to recoup some of my money. The Kinect always watching you creeps me out as well.

I've read that a lot of soldiers are angry about this thing too, they can't get a stable connection when they are stationed in some places, and they won't even be able to play lan games with each other if they can't get the things online in a day.
 
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I've read that a lot of soldiers are angry about this thing too, they can't get a stable connection when they are stationed in some places, and they won't even be able to play lan games with each other if they can't get the things online in a day.

I think it was in a comments section of IGN so take it fwiw.. but I thought I saw a discussion on deployed soldiers can get some code to keep that online thing from happening. Not sure if true or not though. Still... annoying to even have to be discussing it lol
 
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Currently I dont in my living situation. Havent had any at home (other than phone internet) for 2 1/2 months. Would suck to not be able to play single player games because of that.

You only have to connect it up once a day or whatever... and if your cell phone has a wifi hotspot... that will work fine. At our our house we have 3 cellphones that can act as wifi hotspots, not to mention numerous neighbors that would let us piggy back on their wifi in a crunch.

I could agree with that.. but this part still remains to be seen. If games are on equal sales on both consoles then yeah that would make sense.. but if there is less of an install base on one consol (More people buying PS4's for example) then they could be making more money up front with a game, than with what they would lose(?) by going more towards DRM

Yeah... I think it will be awhile before we see how it plays out and I would suspect we will see most games on both platforms for years. I don't know how many times games are resold... but I am guessing 3-5 times... and that is 2-4 times the publisher doesn't get paid anything for their work.

I can understand why Sony stayed without DRM, they had a hard time with one of their handheld devices that was online only, and I think they learned a lesson by that, but it was mainly because people who already bought physical games couldn't play them on the new device. Both PS4 and XBOX One are not backward compatible anyway.

My neighbor who works with graphics at Intel was also impressed with the XBOX One cloud support (3 virtual xbox one's for each physical one). Said something like that extra horsepower can be use to crunch better lighting etc... when you are loading a level, so graphically, in theory at least, certain games may be able to look better on Xbox One even though they have very similar hardware (PS4 actually has a bit better graphics performace, which XBOX One went away from because of concerns about heat)
 
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Yeah, the only exclusives you really see are made by studios Sony and Microsoft own, 3rd parties miss out on too much money being exclusive. I wonder which system they will be slightly better on though? Last gen it was the 360 for most multiplatforms, but i wonder if that will shift, probably depends on which is easier to develop for.
 
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Also, did you guys see the extended MGS5 trailer? Very nsfw

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The arrogance of Microsoft is hilarious.

Apple should team up with Sony somehow and make this very interesting.
 
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That MGS5 trailer is disturbing. Young kids with guns? Do they really have to take it to that level? I dont like it.
The sniper girl... I do like!
 
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You only have to connect it up once a day or whatever... and if your cell phone has a wifi hotspot... that will work fine. At our our house we have 3 cellphones that can act as wifi hotspots, not to mention numerous neighbors that would let us piggy back on their wifi in a crunch.

That seems like more of a hassle to me. For example updates current gen are usually between 1-50 MB.. that could be a good chunk of my 2 GB limit. Broadband in rural parts of Hood River are hard to get to, so neighbor wifi isnt plentiful either. It just seems very unneccesary to me, when Pirating Console games (from what I've read) isnt that big of a community. Especially with most people being like yourself wanting to play games online.

I dont fault anyone if they choose xbox as their preference. But the extra hassle and restrictions have cause me personally to decide to take my business elsewhere for the rest of this current gen, and next generation.
 
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That MGS5 trailer is disturbing. Young kids with guns? Do they really have to take it to that level? I dont like it.
The sniper girl... I do like!

Meh. Most of the time when I play FPS games I get killed by 13 year olds who laugh at me afterward. So, regardless if they are depicted in the game or not, the majority of people playing the game are kids.
 
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Meh. Most of the time when I play FPS games I get killed by 13 year olds who laugh at me afterward. So, regardless if they are depicted in the game or not, the majority of people playing the game are kids.

It's not fun playing cod and having 10 year old boys who haven't hit puberty and have high voices call you a homo time and time again that's for sure.
 
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You've probably already got a pre-order down.
 
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Good God Sly o_O
 
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Jeez, the Ps4 pre-orders are murdering the Xbone on like every site. I don't think i've ever seen a company throw away a market share so quickly like this.
 
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I was going to buy a PS4 even if it was $100 more than the XBox one. The price is not an issue for me at all. It's not 2002 anymore. I expect to pay more than $500 for a computer or a god damn cell phone, so paying $400, $500, or even $600, for something that I use much more frequently than my computer and enjoy much more than my cell phone is not something I think twice about.
 

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