Upgrading the SG position

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Just say NO to trades for old guys from Chicago. Funny stuff Denny.

Remember Olshey said only trades would be made for younger guys who fit the window of time AND that move the needle. Old Rip and Old Nate don't cut it IMO.

I'd rather see Blazers make trades or sign FA's for starters than to worry about a bench before starters are ID'd.
 
I was fully on the Eric Gordon bandwagon last summer but his knee is a huge red flag now. Their doctors seriously contemplated MF surgery. I'd stay away now.

But I think that's the type of SG Neil is looking for.
 
The team is responsible for the difference between his new contract and what his old one owed him. So if it were a $15M contract and he was cut, signed elsewhere for $5M, the team would be on the hook for $10M.

I think Nate is a gem. Not because he's a bull, but because of his play the past two seasons and his vet min sized contract.

I don't think the Bulls actually care about which players come back. They might even consider a guy on a multiyear (but very cheap) deal.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
I was fully on the Eric Gordon bandwagon last summer but his knee is a huge red flag now. Their doctors seriously contemplated MF surgery. I'd stay away now.

But I think that's the type of SG Neil is looking for.
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But there aren't many of them period. SG is currently the weakest position in the NBA. After you get past the top 3 (or 4 if you include Ginobili still with Kobe, Harden and Wade) then you are left with guys right around Matthews' production this year.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/sg/sort/VORP
 
Harry's Raincoat said:
Just say NO to trades for old guys from Chicago. Funny stuff Denny.

Remember Olshey said only trades would be made for younger guys who fit the window of time AND that move the needle. Old Rip and Old Nate don't cut it IMO.

I'd rather see Blazers make trades or sign FA's for starters than to worry about a bench before starters are ID'd.
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Nate's a year older than LMA and 2 years older than Wes. Old? Not really.

Anyhow, I was just musing on a deal that would get you a guy like jason terry - smallish guy who can play both G positions, instant offense off the bench, etc. And for your bench crap.
 
IMO Robinson is exactly the kind of player we need on our bench. I would LOVE to get him on a low-value multi-year deal this summer.

I also really like the idea of buying low on Evans. Whatever we do, I think keeping Wes as a starter and finding an instant-offense reserve is the way to go.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
IMO Robinson is exactly the kind of player we need on our bench. I would LOVE to get him on a low-value multi-year deal this summer.

I also really like the idea of buying low on Evans. Whatever we do, I think keeping Wes as a starter and finding an instant-offense reserve is the way to go.
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I would jump on board with Mayo, but there is something I really hate about the guy. I can't really put my finger on it. He seems to be a selfish type player.
 
magnifier661 said:
I would jump on board with Mayo, but there is something I really hate about the guy. I can't really put my finger on it. He seems to be a selfish type player.
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Is it that he is a volume shooter who doesn't really make anyone around him better?
 
Aldridge for George!

But with George's play this season this ship has sailed.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Aldridge for George!

But with George's play this season this ship has sailed.
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If Portland offered Aldridge for George; they would jump on it like flies on shit.

Man you guys make me laugh on just how much you devalue Aldridge.
 
So far the only names that seem like reasonable options to add toi the roster whether you replace Matthews or leave him in the starting unit, are Mayo and Tyreke Evans ... I guess it's remotely possible they could be lured here as free agents (like "bombing Pakistani villages with a remote controlled drone from Langley" remote).
 
Nikolokolus said:
So far the only names that seem like reasonable options to add toi the roster whether you replace Matthews or leave him in the starting unit, are Mayo and Tyreke Evans ... I guess it's remotely possible they could be lured here as free agents (like "bombing Pakistani villages with a remote controlled drone from Langley" remote).
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Gortat is likely to be dealt this year. I would make a run at him

In the off season go after Dalembert


Absolutely have to upgrade Center.
 
Matthews is fine as long as Batum can solidify himself as a #3 player. That's really hit or miss right now, though, and not a certainty.

The Blazers have a decent 1-2 in Lillard and Aldridge. With Batum locked in to a big contract, perhaps the Blazers do have to upgrade the SG position to find that #3.

I think it will be hard to find another player as good as Matthews, let alone a SG better than him. Matthews is on a nice contract, too.

Hopefully Olshey has an answer.
 
here's a bit of a different idea, we all know Nic can play the 2 spot well, an old Blazer (Martel webster) is playing very well for the Wiz - especially now that John Wall is back, I think he could play just as well with Lillard. He is a UFA. he might be a nice rotation bench player (he's still only 26) for a reasonable contract - thoughts?
 
I trust Olshey to dig up another gem of a point guard, to let us run a two-PG lineup like a lot of teams do these days. The Clippers made a lot of noise while Baron Davis was injured running Eric Gordon and Bledsoe at the same time.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
I trust Olshey to dig up another gem of a point guard, to let us run a two-PG lineup like a lot of teams do these days. The Clippers made a lot of noise while Baron Davis was injured running Eric Gordon and Bledsoe at the same time.
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That clippers team was 32-50, right?
 
The Warriors had Ellis and Curry and their record wasn't so hot either. Both put up stellar PG type numbers (points, assists)
 
Mediocre Man said:
I've always wanted the Blazers to get him. He has struggled in Philly, but he shoots better from 3, is a better defender and he is 2 years younger than Matthews. Turner's PER has gone up each year in the league, where Matthews' has gone down from him first year with us. At SG Turner, while slight has a better PER to PER vs ration that Matthews. Turner is also much more of an athlete
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Are you serious? Turner shoots 39% from three, Wesley shoots 38% while shooting three times the amount Turner does. Turner is not better at defense. That's ridiculous. Turner's PER has gone from 10.8 to 12.6 to this year's 13.1. Wesley's PER was 14.1 last year, and increased to 14.5 this year. Turner is fucking awful on offense, his TS% is 49%, Wesley's is 57%.. I have no idea what would possess ANYONE to want Turner over Matthews.
 
Per ESPN today (Via Hoopshype) Philly is making calls in order to gauge the value of Evans. Supposedly they want to shake things up. I bet it would take Wes or JJ to get him. Is he worth either one? I think he is worth JJ if we are going to lose him. When I see him play this year he often looks good, but other times he disappears. But to be honest I rarely watch a 76er game to really know. (And I refuse to look at someone's PER to evaluate them)
 
hed be worth jj clearly, but turner is pretty expensive, being the #3 pick or whatever
 
Maybe Turner would flourish under Stotts? He seems to have helped Nicolas (or maybe Nicolas was always capable of this?) and Lillard certainly hasn't suffered in his rookie season.

I don't know if I'd be keen to trade Wesley to get him, but I'd certainly trade Hickson for him. Is that enough for Philly? I don't know ...
 
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Pinwheel1 said:
Per ESPN today (Via Hoopshype) Philly is making calls in order to gauge the value of Evans. Supposedly they want to shake things up. I bet it would take Wes or JJ to get him. Is he worth either one? I think he is worth JJ if we are going to lose him. When I see him play this year he often looks good, but other times he disappears. But to be honest I rarely watch a 76er game to really know. (And I refuse to look at someone's PER to evaluate them)
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Do you mean Evan Turner or Tyreke Evans?
 
You aren't getting Evan Turner for either Wes or JJ. Even if you threw them both in you would probably have to give them a pick for them to think about it. (And have PHI throw in some undesirable contract to match deals)

Turner is a Batum-light clone so I think you just keep what you have. Wes brings different skills.
 
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