US admits Bin Laden dead for 8 years.

[tlongII]

Yeah, I've seen lots of good things about 9/11. But a good JFK move is entitled JFK. It is a 3 hour ish real movie. Kevin Costner stars as the person who it trying to find out about the murder. It is amazing.

The movie JFK is also a complete farce. Virtually all of the points Oliver Stone tries to bring up in the flick have been refuted.

 

[BenDavis503]

Yeah, I've seen lots of good things about 9/11. But a good JFK move is entitled JFK. It is a 3 hour ish real movie. Kevin Costner stars as the person who it trying to find out about the murder. It is amazing.

I have seen that. I was looking for something more non-mainstream. Like Loose Change 9-11 is.

But I have not seen that JFK movie for a long, long time. Maybe I will watch it again since I am a little older now.

 

[Denny Crane]

Loose change? Everything in that movie's been debunked, and they keep releasing it with the debunked facts left out and new conspiracy theories in their place. That's how that scam works.

The JFK conspiracies have been debunked to my satisfaction as well.

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[RR7]

http://www.amazon.com/Warren-Commission-Report-Presidents-Assassination/dp/0312082576#noop

If you're really interested in the JFK assassination, I recommend reading this. No conspiracies. It's the official Warren Commission Report done shortly after.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Commission

I have the book, and have read through it in its entirety. Fascinating read, IMO. I love the conspiracies surrounding the JFK assassination, so thought going to the source was a good idea. I have no clue after reading the report how they came away with their lone gunman theory. They seem to gloss over information, and take leaps of faith on others. Great read. Could get slightly slow at times, but overall, enough to hold my attention. Around 800 pages, I think. It's a time investment, for sure, but worth it.

 

[barfo]

I fail to understand the fascination with the Kennedy assassination. Man's been dead since I was a child, and that was a long long time ago. If people beyond Oswald were involved, they are probably mostly dead by now as well. It's about as relevant today as President Garfield's assassination (I suspect that Liz killed Garfield).

barfo

 

[gatorpops]

Just SYK, my point wasn't about physical evidence, time or anything like that. My point was that IF you can believe the government setup Kennedy to be murdered and the government has that kind of power\ability. Why would they not have that same power\ability now with the WTC?

My biggest problem with it all, (amongst the 1000 other facts about WTC) is that jet fuel cannot burn steel. It does not get hot enough. That simple fact alone should give people a clue. And then I am supposed to believe that "fire shot over from WTC towers to WTC 7 and burned it to the floor too." ???????? I am supposed to believe that a magic fire bolt shot over from the WTC towers to the building across the street that just HAPPENS to have VERY important documents in it from CIA, DEA, IRS and all that?!??! Really?!?!?!?!?! And that magic fire bolt didn't hit ANY other building on the way to WTC7 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? SERIOUS?!?!?!?!

My second biggest problem with this all is the fact that Americans are so naive and trustworthy of their government, they think Uncle Sam couldn't possibly do something like knock down the towers or assassinate Kennedy. Just makes me sick to think how blind people are.

Anyhow... sorry I kind of went off topic there.

I don't usually post my thoughts on this form, but I do have a question for you Ben. What do you think, in light of the highlighted statement above, about our Obama run government and what they are telling us. Do you believe any or some or none of their statements? What reporting organization or individual do you believe?

Seems to me that we all are forming our opinions on what we think we observe ourselves or what someone else is "telling" us. Just whom or what do we believe and why? Just asking.

 

[BenDavis503]

Loose change? Everything in that movie's been debunked, and they keep releasing it with the debunked facts left out and new conspiracy theories in their place. That's how that scam works.

Sorry, watching that Penn and Teller vid made me even more convinced that it was an inside job. Those two wont convince me lol really? No way. That video was terrible.

http://www.amazon.com/Warren-Commission-Report-Presidents-Assassination/dp/0312082576#noop

If you're really interested in the JFK assassination, I recommend reading this. No conspiracies. It's the official Warren Commission Report done shortly after.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Commission

I have the book, and have read through it in its entirety. Fascinating read, IMO. I love the conspiracies surrounding the JFK assassination, so thought going to the source was a good idea. I have no clue after reading the report how they came away with their lone gunman theory. They seem to gloss over information, and take leaps of faith on others. Great read. Could get slightly slow at times, but overall, enough to hold my attention. Around 800 pages, I think. It's a time investment, for sure, but worth it.

Awesome, I will check that out.

I fail to understand the fascination with the Kennedy assassination. Man's been dead since I was a child, and that was a long long time ago. If people beyond Oswald were involved, they are probably mostly dead by now as well. It's about as relevant today as President Garfield's assassination (I suspect that Liz killed Garfield).

barfo

We still talk about it because it proves what the government is capable of doing.

I don't usually post my thoughts on this form, but I do have a question for you Ben. What do you think, in light of the highlighted statement above, about our Obama run government and what they are telling us. Do you believe any or some or none of their statements? What reporting organization or individual do you believe?

Seems to me that we all are forming our opinions on what we think we observe ourselves or what someone else is "telling" us. Just whom or what do we believe and why? Just asking.

Honestly, I try to not pay attention to or listen to anything Obama says. I try to stay as far away from politics as possible. I just have a special place in my heart for the 9-11 incident because that is my birthday.

But to answer your question, I do not believe anything Obama or the government tells me. That way my feelings never get hurt

 

[jlprk]

The movie JFK is also a complete farce. Virtually all of the points Oliver Stone tries to bring up in the flick have been refuted.

Not true. Only one scene in the movie is fictionalized, and it isn't material. The movie is true, and polls show the majority of Americans think so. In fact, the movie is understated.

 

[MrJayremmie]

I have seen that. I was looking for something more non-mainstream. Like Loose Change 9-11 is.

Books are where I got my info, mainly.

There are a ton of YouTube vids on it.

 

[tlongII]

Not true. Only one scene in the movie is fictionalized, and it isn't material. The movie is true, and polls show the majority of Americans think so. In fact, the movie is understated.

Ridiculous. Step up your research skills.

 

[barfo]

We still talk about it because it proves what the government is capable of doing.

That's right. First they came for JFK, and we said nothing. Then 50 years later, they will come for BenDavis503. The government is slow moving, but there is a clear pattern here. They want to driiiiiiiiink your blooooooooood!

barfo

 

[The Sebastian Express]

The fascination with the Kennedy assassination still remains because of the family name and the following tragedies involving various siblings and children.