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e_blazer said:
Best I could find:

ship_cvn-71_theodore_roosevelt_cutaway_lg.jpg
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thanks EB. It's a little too small an image to really see what's going on and when I enlarge it just fuzzes out

I guess any floor plans are a bit secret. I tried to find those and cut-a-ways before but no luck. I was also curious about nuclear submarines and remember running up against the same issue
 
barfo said:
But BenDavis503 says I won the thread.

barfo
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Come on, barfo, let me have the win. I know I’ll never get the Lanny seal of approval, I don’t even dare aspire to those heights, but the MarAzul thread championship would be the crowning cherry on my ripcity2 ice cream sundae.
 
e_blazer said:
Come on, barfo, let me have the win. I know I’ll never get the Lanny seal of approval, I don’t even dare aspire to those heights, but the MarAzul thread championship would be the crowning cherry on my ripcity2 ice cream sundae.
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I'm here to turn your frown into a smile.
You always win the apple of my eye award. It must be your winning personality.
Seriously, I frequently agree with you.
 
'She can't talk and breathe at the same time': Mother of coronavirus-stricken sailor on USS Theodore Roosevelt reveals fears for her daughter as thousands of crew are evacuated from the vessel in Guam
  • 155 crew from USS Theodore Roosevelt have now tested positive to COVID-19
  • The mother of one sailor says her daughter is struggling to breathe after contracting the virus
  • At least 2,700 of the 5,000 crew will be transferred off the ship and placed in accommodations in Guam
  • It comes after Captain Brett Crozier penned letter to Navy leaders calling for immediate evacuation of aircraft carrier due to fears the virus would spread
  • Crozier was removed from his position with Navy leaders claiming he shared letter with at least 20 others before it was leaked to press
  • Meanwhile, locals in Guam have expressed anger over hosting infected sailors at their hotels
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...heodore-Roosevelt-reveals-fears-daughter.html
 
Fired captain of USS Theodore Roosevelt tests positive for coronavirus as it's revealed top US commanders 'were opposed to his dismissal but were OVERRULED by Navy secretary because Trump wanted him gone over letter'
  • Capt. Brett Crozier has tested positive for COVID-19, according to close friends
  • Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly decided to remove Crozier on Thursday
  • Crozier wrote letter to Navy high command about coronavirus on USS Roosevelt
  • He demanded Navy evacuate aircraft carrier due to an outbreak on board
  • Crozier's letter was eventually leaked to the news media on Monday
  • Military chiefs initially began investigation into the leak of Crozier's letter
  • But acting secretary fired him immediately against advice of colleagues
  • Modly is reported to have been told that the president wanted Crozier gone
  • Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, favored a military probe
  • Top naval officer, Adm. Michael C. Gilday, also opposed immediate termination
  • But they were overruled by Modly, who announced firing on Thursday
  • Video online shows sailors giving rousing salute to Modly as he left ship in Guam
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...SS-Theodore-Roosevelt-coronavirus-letter.html
 
So much for "this is military culture, you wouldn't understand if you haven't served." The military itself didn't think he should be fired. As usual, it was all Trump's pettiness. But I'm sure Trump, the guy who dodged military service, is the one who truly understands military culture and how much this captain damaged the military.
 
Minstrel said:
So much for "this is military culture, you wouldn't understand if you haven't served." The military itself didn't think he should be fired. As usual, it was all Trump's pettiness. But I'm sure Trump, the guy who dodged military service, is the one who truly understands military culture and how much this captain damaged the military.
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Nobody knows the military more than a draft dodger like trump. :bgrin:
 
yankeesince59 said:
Hey !...bone spurs are fucking serious, even if they don't prevent you from playing other college sports at the same time.
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Certain types of bone spurs are dormant but flare up if exposed to the climate of Vietnam.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Certain types of bone spurs are dormant but flare up if exposed to the climate of Vietnam.

barfo
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Especially the kind trump had as yellow stripe bone spurs are the worst.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Exactly...how many deferments did he receive?...five or six?
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Come on, do you really expect me to keep up with all the draft dodging deferments this piece of shit comes up with? I'd rather watch paint dry.
 
Lanny said:
Come on, do you really expect me to keep up with all the draft dodging deferments this piece of shit comes up with? I'd rather watch paint dry.
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Do you guys realize how many draft dodgers are now democrat or republican politicians?
 
Navy secretary trashes coronavirus aircraft carrier's fired captain as 'naive' and 'stupid' in speech to sailors who cheered 'hero' - then self-pitying bureaucrat says he axed commander because it's what Donald Trump 'would want'
  • Thomas Modly, President Trump's acting Navy secretary, told sailors on the USS Theodore Roosevelt that their fired captain was 'naive' and 'stupid'
  • Modly complained about the memo Captain Brett Crozier about a coronavirus outbreak on the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier
  • 'If he didn't think, in my opinion, that this information wasn't going to get out ... then he was either A) too naïve or too stupid to be a commanding officer,' he said
  • Modly relieved Crozier of his command after letter went public
  • And he said he did it because he thought President Trump would want him to
  • 'If I were president, and I saw a commanding officer of a ship exercising such poor judgment, I would be asking why the leadership of the Navy wasn't taking action itself,' he said
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...raft-carriers-fired-captain-naive-stupid.html
 
Bernie Sanders Applied for 'Conscientious Objector' Status During Vietnam, Campaign Confirms
Joe got a deferment for
asthma.
Im not saying they were right or wrong, just that it's not unusual that politicians dodge the service or draft.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Navy secretary trashes coronavirus aircraft carrier's fired captain as 'naive' and 'stupid' in speech to sailors who cheered 'hero' - then self-pitying bureaucrat says he axed commander because it's what Donald Trump 'would want'
  • Thomas Modly, President Trump's acting Navy secretary, told sailors on the USS Theodore Roosevelt that their fired captain was 'naive' and 'stupid'
  • Modly complained about the memo Captain Brett Crozier about a coronavirus outbreak on the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier
  • 'If he didn't think, in my opinion, that this information wasn't going to get out ... then he was either A) too naïve or too stupid to be a commanding officer,' he said
  • Modly relieved Crozier of his command after letter went public
  • And he said he did it because he thought President Trump would want him to
  • 'If I were president, and I saw a commanding officer of a ship exercising such poor judgment, I would be asking why the leadership of the Navy wasn't taking action itself,' he said
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...raft-carriers-fired-captain-naive-stupid.html
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He was performing for an audience of one, Trump. Showing his loyalty to his god emperor. Fuck US service personnel.
 
Hoopguru said:
Do you guys realize how many draft dodgers are now democrat or republican politicians?
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Hoopguru said:
Bernie Sanders Applied for 'Conscientious Objector' Status During Vietnam, Campaign Confirms
Joe got a deferment for
asthma.
Im not saying they were right or wrong, just that it's not unusual that politicians dodge the service or draft.
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And neither of them are known for demeaning POWs.
 
Hoopguru said:
Bernie Sanders Applied for 'Conscientious Objector' Status During Vietnam, Campaign Confirms
Joe got a deferment for
asthma.
Im not saying they were right or wrong, just that it's not unusual that politicians dodge the service or draft.
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A lot of people applied for deferremnetrs (not just politicians as a lot of politicians have also served) for various reasons and some got the deferrement. trumps dad made a deal with a doctor renting space from him to write the deferremnet approval. Money talks.
 
CupWizier said:
A lot of people applied for deferremnetrs (not just politicians as a lot of politicians have also served) for various reasons and some got the deferrement. trumps dad made a deal with a doctor renting space from him to write the deferremnet approval. Money talks.
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I know...But even Joe who was an athlete in college and HS got a medical deferment in 68, which was the height of the war.
This has nothing to do with Donald, put two guys in contention for the democratic nominee that skated around the service.
 
To date we've never had a President that served in Vietnam, which is fine by me either way.
 
Personally, I believe that in order to be qualified to run for president, an individual should be required to have had some level of military service. It is unconscionable to me that a Commander In Chief (of all American military forces) can actually order men and women into harm’s way without that CIC having military experience themselves. There is absolutely no way they can truly understand the ramifications involved in sending others to die. And ROTC doesn’t count.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Personally, I believe that in order to be qualified to run for president, an individual should be required to have had some level of military service. It is unconscionable to me that a Commander In Chief (of all American military forces) can actually order men and women into harm’s way without that CIC having military experience themselves. There is absolutely no way they can truly understand the ramifications involved in sending others to die. And ROTC doesn’t count.
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I wouldn't object to that at all.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Personally, I believe that in order to be qualified to run for president, an individual should be required to have had some level of military service. It is unconscionable to me that a Commander In Chief (of all American military forces) can actually order men and women into harm’s way without that CIC having military experience themselves. There is absolutely no way they can truly understand the ramifications involved in sending others to die. And ROTC doesn’t count.
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The president is in charge of so much. Should they be required to have experience in everything they are going to oversee? Isn't that generally why they appoint people to help with those matters?
 
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