Utah city to launch nation's first spy blimp...

[SlyPokerDog]

OGDEN -- Attempting a police omniscience seen in only about 20 U.S. cities, the Ogden Police Department is gearing up for a "real time crime center" to be operational soon after its Crime Blimp launches.

The center hopes to eventually be linked with the thousands of private and government security cameras around town, including the city's own inventory of some 200 cameras.

tah Department of Transportation and Utah Transit Authority are already on board to share their cameras with Ogden police in the video center planned for soon-to-be-remodeled offices in the department headquarters.

Officials are shooting for an April launch date for the blimp, under construction by Weber State University's Utah Center for Aeronautical Innovation and Design, which will feed video to a fledgling version of the RTCC. They hope the center is fully operational by July.

A civil rights debate is likely to flare at some point.

"Scary," was local defense attorney Bernie Allen's reaction to the coming integrated camera system and the blimp.

"Talk about your Big Brother, it's 'A Brave New World,' " he quipped, referring to two famous novels about futuristic worlds surveilled by oppressive governments.

http://www.standard.net/topics/ogde...ecurity-cameras-coming-real-time-crime-center

 

[MrJayremmie]

After reading 1984 for the third time yesterday, I say this is B.S. and deserves a protest.

 

[jlprk]

A civil rights debate is likely to flare at some point.

So the contracts have been let, the college is building the blimp, the building is being remodeled, the bus systems have met to decide to share their cameras, and last thing on the schedule is...

Announce it and ask the public whether they approve.

Too late. The money's been spent. The momentum to gear up is full speed ahead.

This is the democracy that we hope to install all over the Middle East, so we start revolutions to kill the people who don't want it.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

So the contracts have been let, the college is building the blimp, the building is being remodeled, the bus systems have met to decide to share their cameras, and last thing on the schedule is...

Announce it and ask the public whether they approve.

Too late. The money's been spent. The momentum to gear up is full speed ahead.

This is the democracy that we hope to install all over the Middle East, so we start revolutions to kill the people who don't want it.

Agreed.

This project is not what they mean by "transparent" government.

 

[MARIS61]

I expect our "government" (we actually lost all control of it under Reagan) to fall by force of the people in my lifetime.

I also expect it to be the bloodiest revolt in history, with other countries eventually stepping in to aid our citizens.

The cruel insanity of those actually pulling all the strings now makes Gadafi look like a nanny.

 

[Ed O]

I don't really see that big of a deal here.

If I'm accused of a crime, I WANT there to be evidence of someone else doing it (unless I did it, and then I deserve what I get).

The creation of video through the use of cameras is much less scary to me than the manipulation of that video... I'm not sure that the government would be more prone to manipulate video than they would, say, DNA evidence or phone records.

Ed O.

 

[jlprk]

I expect our "government" (we actually lost all control of it under Reagan) to fall by force of the people in my lifetime.

I also expect it to be the bloodiest revolt in history, with other countries eventually stepping in to aid our citizens.

I think the country will just trail off bloodlessly, through economics. It will just get weaker and weaker from propping up the richest 2%. There will be socialist remedies approved by US intelligence agencies around the 2040s or 2050s, which might delay things a tiny bit. But China is taking over the world, and what is happening will be beyond debate by the 2020s. When we eventually drop the belligerence, we'll just be a Britain, trying hard to be the big guy's little brother.

 

[MARIS61]

I don't really see that big of a deal here.

If I'm accused of a crime, I WANT there to be evidence of someone else doing it (unless I did it, and then I deserve what I get).

The creation of video through the use of cameras is much less scary to me than the manipulation of that video... I'm not sure that the government would be more prone to manipulate video than they would, say, DNA evidence or phone records.

Ed O.

Or any less prone to manipulate it.

You're naive if you think this has anything to do with protecting you from criminals.

 

[MARIS61]

When we eventually drop the belligerence, we'll just be a Britain, trying hard to be the big guy's little brother.

I assume you meant that figuratively since, well, most Chinese guys aren't very big at all.

 

[Ed O]

Or any less prone to manipulate it.

Agreed.

So there's no problem, then?

You're naive if you think this has anything to do with protecting you from criminals.

Ah. How can I disagree with such a profound argument?

Ed O.

 

[jlprk]

This country's going to the dogs. No one's having sex anymore.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110304...lYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDdXN0ZWVuc3lvdW5n

 

[MARIS61]

80% of yound adult Americans have herpes, some other STD, or HIV, which kind of puts a damper on the free love concept.

 

[Alaxender]

Hi All,
With thousands of government and private security cameras around town, we should expect positive results.
Many other countries are using cameras effectively to control crimes.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Hi All,
With thousands of government and private security cameras around town, we should expect positive results.
Many other countries are using cameras effectively to control crimes.

Greetings from Homeland Security!

 

[barfo]

80% of yound adult Americans have herpes, some other STD, or HIV, which kind of puts a damper on the free love concept.

Only if you like to have sex with young people.

barfo

 

[MrJayremmie]

Hi All,
With thousands of government and private security cameras around town, we should expect positive results.
Many other countries are using cameras effectively to control crimes.

Many other countries suck. And while America sucks, it doesn't suck as bad as any of those other countries.

Do you work in this field (for the government by any chance)? Seems like a "shape our image" campaign.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

this is clearly just an excuse to film footage of the elusive magical mormon underwear.

i have said before, im in favor of surveillance, it gets me super hard to imagine someone watching me while i pick my nose