vancouver has gone too far!

[BLAZER PROPHET]

The point stands--Oregonians shopping in Washington is inherently good for Washington; Washingtonians working in Oregon is NOT inherently good for Oregon, and it can easily be argued that it is detrimental.

I disagree.

I work in Oregon, but live in Washington. The Oregon income taxes I pay provide for a host of things I don't benefit from by being a non citizen. They benefit Oregonians, but not me. Among other things, I pay state worker salaries, build schools, all sorts of other infrastructure, contribute to the OHP... the list goes on.

 

[THE HCP]

The only time I go to the 'Couv is in late June for fireworks.....and BeerBoy just have them transfer you to a TacoBell up there if you don't want to pay income tax!

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I guess we should all just work and spend in the state we live in... and never take our $$$ elsewhere (no vacations!!). Brilliant idea!

Not at all what I said. Nice attempt at a strawman though. What I did say is that taxation on income is completely different than taxation on sales, for the reasons I've listed.

I'm sure working in Oregon and living in Washington is great for you. As such, you shouldn't be complaining about paying the related taxes.

Similarly, having Oregonians come over and shop in Washington is good for Washington, and as such, they should not be in any hurry to take any action that will reduce Oregonian visitors.

I really don't get what part of this is so difficult for you to grasp.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I disagree.

I work in Oregon, but live in Washington. The Oregon income taxes I pay provide for a host of things I don't benefit from by being a non citizen. They benefit Oregonians, but not me. Among other things, I pay state worker salaries, build schools, all sorts of other infrastructure, contribute to the OHP... the list goes on.

Yes, but the things that your taxes support would exist regardless of whether your job were filled by you or an Oregonian. Hiring you instead of an Oregonian doesn't help Oregon one bit.

 

[Eastoff]

I disagree.

I work in Oregon, but live in Washington. The Oregon income taxes I pay provide for a host of things I don't benefit from by being a non citizen. They benefit Oregonians, but not me. Among other things, I pay state worker salaries, build schools, all sorts of other infrastructure, contribute to the OHP... the list goes on.

But if an oregonian was doing your job, they would pay that same bill. if you were living in the state, would you appreciate any of that more than me? I don't have kids that go to school, I don't directly see my state employees work. Yet you don't come over for every meal you purchase, nor your groceries. The money you spend comes from oregon and goes into washington. you probably pay no more than 5% of your income back to oregon, while 95% goes to washington.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

No, I pay full OR income taxes and spend about 80% of sales taxable dollars in OR as well. I mean, why pay WA sales tax on the laptop I bought last month?

It benefits OR even more so in that I'm now supporting local businesses from a different state. But, as a native born Oregonian, I'm glad to help out. I'm still a native at heart.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

No, I pay full OR income taxes and spend about 80% of sales taxable dollars in OR as well. I mean, why pay WA sales tax on the laptop I bought last month?

Yeah, but you do that for tax evasion purposes, not because you work in Oregon. If you worked in Washington, you would still come to Oregon to avoid the sales tax. Your employment in Oregon and your expenditures in Oregon are mostly unrelated.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Not at all what I said. Nice attempt at a strawman though. What I did say is that taxation on income is completely different than taxation on sales, for the reasons I've listed.

I'm sure working in Oregon and living in Washington is great for you. As such, you shouldn't be complaining about paying the related taxes.

Similarly, having Oregonians come over and shop in Washington is good for Washington, and as such, they should not be in any hurry to take any action that will reduce Oregonian visitors.

I really don't get what part of this is so difficult for you to grasp.

"strawman" ???

Because of the sales tax Oregonians are less likely to buy in Washington (even if they can avoid the tax)... and the fact that far more Vancouver people work in PDX than PDX people work in Vancouver (much more Vancouver income spent in Oregon)... isnt it safe to say the situation benefits Oregon far more than Washington?

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Yeah, but you do that for tax evasion purposes, not because you work in Oregon. If you worked in Washington, you would still come to Oregon to avoid the sales tax. Your employment in Oregon and your expenditures in Oregon are mostly unrelated.

I disagree. If I didnt work in PDX, I wouldnt come across the bridge nearly as often. To me, it's not worth the gas $$ and time to drive across the bridge to avoid the sales tax and save a few bucks.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Oregon should drop the income tax and have a sales tax instead. That way you collect $$$ from the responsible employed people and the worthless scum who choose not to work.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I disagree. If I didnt work in PDX, I wouldnt come across the bridge nearly as often. To me, it's not worth the gas $$ and time to drive across the bridge to avoid the sales tax and save a few bucks.

But that statement wasn't directed toward you--it was directed toward BP, who stated that he makes the vast majority of his purchases in Oregon for the express purpose of avoiding tax.

Keep your responses straight, Beerboy!!

Oregon should drop the income tax and have a sales tax instead. That way you collect $$$ from the responsible employed people and the worthless scum who choose not to work.

If you suggested that they should reduce the income tax (but not eliminate it) and add a small (5%) sales tax, then I'd be on board.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Personally, I think people who live in WA and work in OR should have to pay a reduced tax. Maybe at 3% or something.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

No thanks to getting rid of the income tax. As long as I live here ill vote against sales tax.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

I do not have a problem with this change. I would also not have a problem with paying a toll for using a new I-5 bridge.

 

[Denny Crane]

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This means war, washington!

You think all the hippies in Washington and Oregon are going to stop the Canadians when they invade?