Vet backup 4 help next year

[shamelessblazer]

Next year I really think we could use someone to come in behind Aldridge and play a somewhat tough presence. Joel is a vet but w/o playoff experience and I think the difference between Outlaw or Frye and a vet PF on defense would greatly improve our overall team defense and rebounding, not leaving the 5 playing on an island (whether it's Joel/LMA/or Oden).

Having another 6 quality fouls wouldn't be bad either.

My two picks:

Antonio Mcdyess: plays his heart out, good on defense, very strong, amazing rebounder, and his game consists of a money mid-range J (like LMA), which would work well next to Pryz or Oden. He wants to win desperately and is probably getting out of Detroit after this year. Supposedly a high character guy too.

http://www.freep.com/article/20090427/SPORTS03/904270368/1051/SPORTS03/McDyess still gettin it done

Kurt Thomas: Still a year left on his deal so maybe not (we should've traded Frye for him at the deadline if money would've worked out) but he's another guy with a solid mid-range game and a nice defender. Less of an energy guy than Mcdyess and more of a patient position type of guy but used to be fairly good in the open court and has tons of playoff experience.

Both of those guys are good passers too, and would be nice short term help while Oden/LMA/ and Oden develop and 6 more quality fouls from a quality defender in the playoffs.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

My pick:

Rasheed Wallace.

That would be AWESOME.

I'm actually serious that he would be a great acquisition, the best out there. I don't think he'd come, however, unless perhaps a ritual sacrifice of Jason Quick were made to appease him. I volunteer to help.

 

[Hank The Dwarf]

David Lee.. great rebounder - can finish in transition - plays good D. We can get him as a FA for a reasonable price.

 

[Wheels]

David Lee.. great rebounder - can finish in transition - plays good D. We can get him as a FA for a reasonable price.

Yeah he'll be happy with 13-15 min a night with LMA in front of him...

 

[Hank The Dwarf]

Yeah he'll be happy with 13-15 min a night with LMA in front of him...

Lee can play the 3-4-5. Plenty of minutes for a guy who rebounds, plays D and runs the floor hard.. or have you not been watching this playoff series?

 

[Wheels]

Lee can play the 3-4-5. Plenty of minutes for a guy who rebounds, plays D and runs the floor hard.. or have you not been watching this playoff series?

The Knicks playoff series? Must have missed the start of the NIT tourney in the NBA this year.

and yes I have been watching every minute of every game on tv and have attended both home games.. he is not the 3 we would need and his backup 4 minutes would not be enough. And he is not playing the 5 in the West.

 

[Tortimer]

My pick:

Rasheed Wallace.

That would be AWESOME.

I'm actually serious that he would be a great acquisition, the best out there. I don't think he'd come, however, unless perhaps a ritual sacrifice of Jason Quick were made to appease him. I volunteer to help.

No way. I don't want anything to do woth Wallace even if he was a great banger backup PF which he is not. Wallace is soft and doesn't bang down low which the Blazers need in the backup PF. Plus he is a jerk!

 

[hasoos]

I agree that McDyess could add stability to the team. A hard worker his whole career, very stable, very smart. Another I would look at who I think still has game is Joe Smith.

 

[ehizzy3]

we cant afford lee, his going to want a lot of money and a starting spot....

 

[Wheels]

we cant afford lee, his going to want a lot of money and a starting spot....

exactly... and while I like Lee.. he isnt really what we lacked this series.. there is just too much pressure on Roy and LaMarcus to score... While I like Batum and he has exceeded my expectations this year.. His inablity to attack has made it very hard this series IMO.

 

[Hank The Dwarf]

exactly... and while I like Lee.. he isnt really what we lacked this series.. there is just too much pressure on Roy and LaMarcus to score... While I like Batum and he has exceeded my expectations this year.. His inablity to attack has made it very hard this series IMO.

I want Lee and Ben Gordon.

Scoring - Defense - Rebounding - Toughness.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'm completely on board with McDyess.

This team needs some more tough guys.

 

[hasoos]

Be wary of Lee. He is on the D'Antoni stat inflated team. Take his numbers, cut them in half, and that is what he would be on any team that ran at the pace we play at.

 

[Wheels]

I want Lee and Ben Gordon.

Scoring - Defense - Rebounding - Toughness.

Gordon would be good.. he would add a hell of a scoring punch to this team I worry about him playing next to Roy though as a starter, and as a backup he would not get the minutes he would want with Rudy there.

 

[ehizzy3]

Be wary of Lee. He is on the D'Antoni stat inflated team. Take his numbers, cut them in half, and that is what he would be on any team that ran at the pace we play at.

he has good seasons without d'antoni you know?

 

[Wheels]

Be wary of Lee. He is on the D'Antoni stat inflated team. Take his numbers, cut them in half, and that is what he would be on any team that ran at the pace we play at.

I agree with some players his system inflates their numbers.. Lee however I dont think is one of those IMO.. Lee is a hell of a player who works super hard on the floor and plays all out. I just dont think he would be a good fit for our team.

 

[shamelessblazer]

David Lee.. great rebounder - can finish in transition - plays good D. We can get him as a FA for a reasonable price.

There's not enough minutes for an established solid big like him, and he plays terrible defense, so no.

 

[shamelessblazer]

exactly... and while I like Lee.. he isnt really what we lacked this series.. there is just too much pressure on Roy and LaMarcus to score... While I like Batum and he has exceeded my expectations this year.. His inablity to attack has made it very hard this series IMO.

We can't only have two players on the floor anywhere near threats to score (like our starting lineup). I think once Oden grows this won't be as big of a problem, but we desperately need either a better PG or to throw Rudy in at PG and see how it goes.

 

[Hank The Dwarf]

There's not enough minutes for an established solid big like him, and he plays terrible defense, so no.

How many minutes did Outlaw play this year? He's gone this summer.

 

[Wheels]

How many minutes did Outlaw play this year? He's gone this summer.

Yeah Tell Lee he can have a bench job and tell him he will average 7 less minutes per game.. he'll be happy.

 

[Hank The Dwarf]

Yeah Tell Lee he can have a bench job and tell him he will average 7 less minutes per game.. he'll be happy.

Yeah, lets just bring in scrubs that will be happy playing 10 minutes a game for the league minimum - good plan.

We need a serious upgrade of talent - no more going 10-11 deep - consoldate some of those guys into better role players.

David Lee is the perfect role player for a backup 4. Plenty of minutes at the backup 3-4-5 for him on this team.

 

[shamelessblazer]

the bigger idea with this is that once Oden and Aldridge improve there won't be a ton of leftover minutes so it's a short-term sitch, that's why i'm not stoked on bringing in David Lee. Dyess is reliable and has played over 78 games the last four seasons in a row.

I'm curious to see Joel Freeland too, hopefully he'll be a member of our team next year. A vet backup in front of him might be good for his learning and we can keep him off the court except for in in blowouts.

 

[Mediocre Man]

McDyess is my hope. It has been for some time now.

 

[Wheels]

Yeah, lets just bring in scrubs that will be happy playing 10 minutes a game for the league minimum - good plan.

We need a serious upgrade of talent - no more going 10-11 deep - consoldate some of those guys into better role players.

David Lee is the perfect role player for a backup 4. Plenty of minutes at the backup 3-4-5 for him on this team.

Hey believe it or not.. I agree with you we need to consolidate talent.. and I like Lee... but he I also like feasible things.. hell Lebron would look good in our uniform too.. but it isnt happening I like Lee... but why take less minutes and less role for same money? Not gonna happen. And I know you hate Oden.. but like it or not he is here to stay, there are NOT minutes at the backup 5 spot.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Jermaine O'Neal baby!

 

[hasoos]

Jermaine O'Neal baby!

Yea I was actually thinking about that the other day watching a Miami playoff game.

 

[Trip]

O'Neal would now be perfect to come off the bench, and would fit in well with Oden and Aldridge. Thing is he thinks he can be an All-Star again, so I doubt he'll take less money to be a backup.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

does he still have a home in Portland?

 

[hasoos]

So I just went and looked at a few lists out there to see who is available, and in the PG direction, the only guy I see who is close is Miller. So unless the Blazers pull the trigger on a trade, the chances are low.

 

[Nikolokolus]

So I just went and looked at a few lists out there to see who is available, and in the PG direction, the only guy I see who is close is Miller. So unless the Blazers pull the trigger on a trade, the chances are low.

The chances of what are low? Aren't we talking about backup 4s in here? I'm confused.