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Sooo for all of us who don't speak Spanish...
 
Re: Victor Claver is seriously thinking about returning to Europe as soon as possible

Well, there goes our chances at a deep playoff run.
 
Re: Victor Claver is seriously thinking about returning to Europe as soon as possible

I wish Claver got some burn. I like what he brings.
 
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I like Vic, but I'm not as enamored with him as some Blazer fans are. He's not especially good at any one thing.
 
Re: Victor Claver is seriously thinking about returning to Europe as soon as possible

Did this guy actually post a link to a Spanish article?
 
Re: Victor Claver is seriously thinking about returning to Europe as soon as possible

... to find Sergio and Rudy and bring them back to the Blazers with him.

barfo
 
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Translation:
Paradoxes of life .

In previous years , Victor Claver had weight on their computers , including his first season with the Trail Blazers, and then finish on the bench with the Spanish.

This summer, finally , won a spot in the rotation of Spain , but what awaited days on his return to Portland is a nightmare .

After averaging more than 16 minutes, almost 4 points and 2 rebounds over his first year in the NBA , the most difficult because it involves a whole new suit basketball, this year has only played three regular season games , for a total sad four minutes : 1.3 on average.

Not a point to put in their mouth. Not even a shot to the hoop ... only one turnover to review the whole of the 2013-14 return .

The worst thing is that in the last four games of Blazers , seconds West with a record of 13-3 , the burgeoning Claver has not even sitting on the bench .

As he has learned TUBASKET.com , Valencian power forward 25 years and 2.05 m . we are thinking very seriously right back to Europe in view of the gloomy outlook . Not comfortable with his situation and he also believes that the franchise does not have him .

The problem is that he still has two years left on his contract and after waiting three years to cross the Atlantic, once elected in the first round in 2009 , Portland is not going to let out just like that.

The NBA is very rare that a player with a guaranteed contract , $ 1.3 million ( 964,000 euros ) this season , allow a street racing team , for looking forward to have.

And in summer
 
Re: Victor Claver is seriously thinking about returning to Europe as soon as possible

Pretty much the same thing you hear about every player who thinks they deserve a shot but are getting no minutes what so ever.
 
Re: Victor Claver is seriously thinking about returning to Europe as soon as possible

Viccy Viccy he's my man, if he can't do it no one can!
 
Re: Victor Claver is seriously thinking about returning to Europe as soon as possible

Too bad Kahn's not still in Minny. I'm sure that he would want him.
 
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Given it's late Nov in Oregon, Spain must sound pretty good about now. Basketball players want to play basketball. Victor lost his jump shot somehow and until he finds it, Stotts isn't going to stop winning games to get him on the court. He is a 3rd string stretch 3 on this roster. He's not as good as Wright or Batum.
 
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riverman said:
Given it's late Nov in Oregon, Spain must sound pretty good about now. Basketball players want to play basketball. Victor lost his jump shot somehow and until he finds it, Stotts isn't going to stop winning games to get him on the court. He is a 3rd string stretch 3 on this roster. He's not as good as Wright or Batum.
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Yup. Another sad story of Euro player that misses the lime light off being a big deal somewhere else. Some of it is due to the talent Portland currently has, and some of that is the need to take a page out of Freeland's book for foreign NBA players.
 
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Claver would be awesome if he could hit the 3 consistently. Until he can he's a liability on the floor.
 
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Samuel said:
Claver would be awesome if he could hit the 3 consistently. Until he can he's a liability on the floor.
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That's the thing with him. He can't even make layups! If he could hit at least hit his layups and mid range shots, he would be awesome. He has the BBIQ to be a stud, but lacks the ability to hit open shots. I don't think we need him to create, just defend, set picks, rebound and hit a few open jumpers.
 
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Claver is a smart, heady, player with very good fundamentals. I love watching him play. He's just a wee bit overmatched athletically in the NBA. It would be cool if he could get on the same team with Rudy and Sergio. The Catalan Blazers!
 
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He got PT last year on one of the all-time worst benches. The bench is now above average. Is it any wonder he's finding himself buried on the pines, much like Leonard?
 
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Samuel said:
Claver would be awesome if he could hit the 3 consistently. Until he can he's a liability on the floor.
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Claver isn't playing because he can't rebound the basketball. I like the guy but this Blazers team just doesn't have any use for him. Even if a guy like Thomas Robinson got injured I doubt he'd get much playing time.
 
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riverman said:
Given it's late Nov in Oregon, Spain must sound pretty good about now. Basketball players want to play basketball. Victor lost his jump shot somehow and until he finds it, Stotts isn't going to stop winning games to get him on the court. He is a 3rd string stretch 3 on this roster. He's not as good as Wright or Batum.
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Although I agree he is not as good as Batum or Wright, how can he lose or find his jump shot without playing?

It is a numbers game and right now as you say he is third string. Good for us to have the depth. Bad for him.
 
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BigGameDamian said:
Claver isn't playing because he can't rebound the basketball. I like the guy but this Blazers team just doesn't have any use for him. Even if a guy like Thomas Robinson got injured I doubt he'd get much playing time.
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This is just flat out wrong. You just pulled that out of thin air huh? Claver can rebound fine. The simple answer is this:

Claver is too small to defend 4s, not quick enough to defend 3s and he is not hitting the open jumper consistently enough to get rotation minutes. He is a tweener plain and simple. End of story.

The reason why Robinson and Freebird are stealing his minutes: They are real Power Forwards.
 
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dviss1 said:
This is just flat out wrong. You just pulled that out of thin air huh? Claver can rebound fine. The simple answer is this:

Claver is too small to defend 4s, not quick enough to defend 3s and he is not hitting the open jumper consistently enough to get rotation minutes. He is a tweener plain and simple. End of story.

The reason why Robinson and Freebird are stealing his minutes: They are real Power Forwards.
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The simple answer is that Claver is not good enough at basketball to be even an okay NBA player. He sucks, he can go back to his awful league so he can feel good about himself instead of working for it.

Freeland and Robinson play over him because they are much better at basketball.
 
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VanillaGorilla said:
The simple answer is that Claver is not good enough at basketball to be even an okay NBA player. He sucks, he can go back to his awful league so he can feel good about himself instead of working for it.

Freeland and Robinson play over him because they are much better at basketball.
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I disagree that this is the reason. Trob is a SPECIMEN who has much more upside as a PF than VC. Freeland is a legit 6'10" PF who can defend Centers....

Claver could be a contributing back up on many teams. It's not hard to develop a consistent jump shot.
 
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dviss1 said:
This is just flat out wrong. You just pulled that out of thin air huh? Claver can rebound fine. The simple answer is this:

Claver is too small to defend 4s, not quick enough to defend 3s and he is not hitting the open jumper consistently enough to get rotation minutes. He is a tweener plain and simple. End of story.

The reason why Robinson and Freebird are stealing his minutes: They are real Power Forwards.
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Well as much as I like Wright he hasn't exactly been a flame thrower either.
 
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dviss1 said:
I disagree that this is the reason. Trob is a SPECIMEN who has much more upside as a PF than VC. Freeland is a legit 6'10" PF who can defend Centers....

Claver could be a contributing back up on many teams. It's not hard to develop a consistent jump shot.
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On teams with the worst bench in the league, maybe.

He's not good at anything.
 
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VanillaGorilla said:
On teams with the worst bench in the league, maybe.

He's not good at anything.
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I and I'm sure many posters in here disagree with this notion.
 
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Yeah he's not good at anything. Do you want Asik on this team? Claver schools him in this vid...

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MickZagger said:
I wish Claver got some burn. I like what he brings.
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Word. He's not great at any one specific thing, but simply all around good. Hopefully he'll continue to work on his shot and become a reliable utility player for us in the future.

..that is if he doesn't "return to Europe as soon as possible."
 
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Re: Victor Claver is seriously thinking about returning to Europe as soon as possible

Victor has an NBA game, he's a smart player, above average defender, moves well without the ball, he's just going through what Joel went through last year, a shooting slump. Victor is actually 6'10 and Joel is not 6'10, he's 6'11 and put in the defensive work to beat Meyers for minutes. Problem with Vic is that while he's not shooting the ball well at all this season, he keeps taking shots. That's going to make the coach bench you. Stotts likes Victor. Victor needs to find his shot to compete for rotation minutes. He should only take long jumpers when the shot clock demands it. When Joel was cold shooting last season we saw the same thing, his minutes disappeared.
 
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Any quotes? Looks like projection to me...
 
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