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Video shows Utah nurse screaming, being dragged into police car after refusing to let officer take blood from unconscious victim


A nurse says she was assaulted and illegally arrested by a Salt Lake City police detective for following a hospital policy that does not allow blood draws from unconscious patients.

Footage from University Hospital and officer body cameras shows Detective Jeff Payne and nurse Alex Wubbels in a standoff over whether the policeman should be allowed to get a blood sample from a patient who had been injured in a July 26 collision in northern Utah that left another driver dead.

Wubbels says blood cannot be taken from an unconscious patient unless the patient is under arrest, unless there is a warrant allowing the draw or unless the patient consents. The detective acknowledges in the footage that none of those requirements is in place, but he insists that he has the authority to obtain the draw, according to the footage.


At one point, Payne threatens to take Wubbels to jail if he doesn’t get the sample, and he accuses her of interfering with a criminal case.

“I either go away with blood in vials or body in tow,” Payne says.

After Wubbels consults with several hospital officials and repeats the policy, Payne tells her she is under arrest and grabs her, pulling her arms behind her back and handcuffing her. The footage shows the detective dragging Wubbels out of the hospital and putting her inside a patrol car as she screams, “Help! Help! Somebody help me! Stop! Stop! I did nothing wrong!”

A University of Utah police officer and Department of Public Safety officers, who provide security for the hospital, were present at time of the arrest and did not intervene.

As he stands in the hospital parking lot after the arrest, Payne says to another officer that he wonders how this event will affect an off-duty job transporting patients for an ambulance company.


“I’ll bring them all the transients and take good patients elsewhere,” Payne says.

Parts of the footage were shown Thursday at a news conference at the office of Karra Porter, a Salt Lake City attorney representing Wubbels.

Salt Lake police Sgt. Brandon Shearer said the department started an internal investigation, which is ongoing, in response to the incident.

Payne was suspended from the department’s blood-draw program — where officers are trained as phlebotomists so they can get blood samples — but he remains on duty with the Police Department, Shearer said. The department also has held training for the officers in the program as a result of the incident, he said.

http://www.sltrib.com/pb/news/2017/...hat-bars-taking-blood-from-unconscious-victim
 
Fuck Jeff Payne.

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This is fucking ridiculous. The nurse was following protocol. There are Hippa laws and if she didn't follow them she could lose her job. She was also protecting a patient who could not protect himself. Good Nurse. The cop was trying to abuse his power and got called on it. Then illegally arrested and dragged a nurse because of his hurt ego. Fuck this guy. Fuck Jeff Payne
 
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I don't know why anyone would want to be a cop. Unless they're assholes like this..

My dad once told me that in a given school yard, half the bullies will grow up to be criminals and half of them will grow up to be cops.

Obviously overstating it for the sake of a joke, but I think it's fair to say that a job like police officer pulls in both people who want to make a positive difference and people with a bully's nature. More of the former than the latter, but if you want to push people around with some legal mandate, police officer is a good option.
 
My dad once told me that in a given school yard, half the bullies will grow up to be criminals and half of them will grow up to be cops.

Obviously overstating it for the sake of a joke, but I think it's fair to say that a job like police officer pulls in both people who want to make a positive difference and people with a bully's nature. More of the former than the latter, but if you want to push people around with some legal mandate, police officer is a good option.
Probably accurate.
 
A conversation with my 4-year old daughter this morning. One of our local town police officers (town of 4,000 people in Mount Vernon, Iowa) stopped his vehicle at the cross walk to let my daughter and I cross on our way to her school.

Me: Wave to the police man
Daughter: What is he doing? (waves)
Me: He is being nice and letting us cross the street.
D: is he a bad policeman?
Me: No, Mount Vernon police are nice.
D: but the policeman on tv are bad.

Definitely not how I viewed police when I was little. I'm pretty sure I thought they were cool or something. Times have changed.
 
What percentage of our police force is educated?
 
I don't have a 4 year degree, and despite what many here think, I would certainly consider myself educated. It's also completely unnecessary for a police officer to have a 4 year degree
Nu uh. If dey knu Shakespeare they'd be better.
 
I don't think a 4 year degree is needed, but there has to be more intensive training on many fronts. Some education should be required including in depth coursework on human psychology, anatomy and physiology, much better weapons training, and a much greater emphasis on controlling ones temper. Also think some law coursework should be required. Wouldn't mind them getting paid more but that would need to be contingent on better training which includes more education. No need to know Shakespeare or calculus although a well rounded person would likely be better at drawing from their life experiences to grow, learn and avoid being a shit-cop.

Most cops I agree are good. But what amount are we ok with being bad? 25%? 10%, 5%? 1%? There are over 900,000 law enforcement officers (not all what we think of as cops) in the US. So even that minuscule 1% would be 9000 bad cops. And it's never only 1%. Most aren't evil, just ass holes. But an ass hole with a badge is a stain on society and a blight on their fellow officers.
 
I don't know why anyone would want to be a cop. Unless they're assholes like this..
A lot of my relatives....Irish americans...had 3 callings in life as did their fathers and grandfathers....bartender...cop....fireman..it's in the blood..goes way back in Americana...the 4th would probably be military..5th....raving lunatic alcoholic...some are capable of two of these callings simultaneously
 
A lot of my relatives....Irish americans...had 3 callings in life as did their fathers and grandfathers....bartender...cop....fireman..it's in the blood..goes way back in Americana...the 4th would probably be military..5th....raving lunatic alcoholic...some are capable of two of these callings simultaneously
Bartender
Fireman
Cop

That order
 
I'm lucky to live where there are good..peace keeping, level headed local cops..I know all of them and they help people...don't harass anyone..are patient..have a community outreach program once a week to hear concerns...drive drunks home without locking them up....do it the right way.
 
I'm lucky to live where there are good..peace keeping, level headed local cops..I know all of them and they help people...don't harass anyone..are patient..have a community outreach program once a week to hear concerns...drive drunks home without locking them up....do it the right way.

How often are the local cops driving you home?
 
I don't have a 4 year degree, and despite what many here think, I would certainly consider myself educated. It's also completely unnecessary for a police officer to have a 4 year degree
I agree with you. I am "educated", but I've honestly learned more on my own than I ever have through higher education. Also, you may come across like a bit of a downer at times, but you come across as an educated downer.




This was all tongue cheek.
 
Why do some people need to drag race into every discussion....so stupid.
 

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