Videocameras and Mini-VideoCameras: 720 v 1080

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You wont get very good picture quality if you play it on a big TV with one of those little cameras.
 
Point and shoot with 1080p. SONY DSC-TX7

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BeerBoy said:
You wont get very good picture quality if you play it on a big TV with one of those little cameras.
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I'm thinking that...but we'll see what happens. might do a test with it.....i kind of want to do some travel vids with those small ones that I can watch at home.

I have access to a larger camera (Canon HF20) at work that is portable I could possibly borrow....but then I have to take all the accessories with me.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
I'm thinking that...but we'll see what happens. might do a test with it.....i kind of want to do some travel vids with those small ones that I can watch at home.

I have access to a larger camera (Canon HF20) at work that is portable I could possibly borrow....but then I have to take all the accessories with me.
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you do understand most HDTVs are 1080i, right? So yes, if you get a 720 camera and watch it on a 1080 it will look bade! But it should look alright if it's 1080i on 1080i.
 
I don't get the whole 1080 thing to be honest.

So I should just shoot everythign in 1080? Whenever I export on imovie it does it in 720 even if I'm using a 1080 camcorder and they say there is "neglibile loss".
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
I don't get the whole 1080 thing to be honest.

So I should just shoot everythign in 1080? Whenever I export on imovie it does it in 720 even if I'm using a 1080 camcorder and they say there is "neglibile loss".
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... do you know what HD means? High Definition. The 360, 480, 720, 1080 is referring to the pixels per inch ratio. To answer your question more specifically, it would be stupid for you to buy a camera that shoots in 1080i and then save everything in 720. You are by definition wasting your money. If you want to get the best quality, then you need to save it in 1080i.
 
westnob said:
... do you know what HD means? High Definition. The 360, 480, 720, 1080 is referring to the pixels per inch ratio. To answer your question more specifically, it would be stupid for you to buy a camera that shoots in 1080i and then save everything in 720. You are by definition wasting your money. If you want to get the best quality, then you need to save it in 1080i.
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ok. So if I shoot something in 1080i and then save it and export it in 1080i, it would look decent on an HDTV? Even if its one of those little small deallies like I mentioned?

I mean will there be a HUGE tradeoff between that and a $500 camcorder?
 
I'm thinking the main thing would be the graininess in lower light situations with the nicer camcorders versus the point and shoot types?
 
I just played this 720p video on my 720p tv. Took it with my Nikon D5000. Looked perfect on my 42inch Samsung.

[video=youtube;wyoQ3AJGBQc]
 
Yeah, those SLRs are actually really good. I see a lot of people using the Canon 5D to make pretty professional quality shorts and web-video.
 
Rodolfo said:
I just played this 720p video on my 720p tv. Took it with my Nikon D5000. Looked perfect on my 42inch Samsung.

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clearly you haven't been around a 1080i in a while :devilwink:
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
ok. So if I shoot something in 1080i and then save it and export it in 1080i, it would look decent on an HDTV? Even if its one of those little small deallies like I mentioned?

I mean will there be a HUGE tradeoff between that and a $500 camcorder?
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I personally am a stingy bastard about buying stuff, but i'm a single guy. I don't have a need to start recording my children's memories or anything like that. If it's going to get used a lot and safe, and you can afford it, why not spring for the best on the big ticket items? Just be frugal on the little shit.
 
westnob said:
I personally am a stingy bastard about buying stuff, but i'm a single guy. I don't have a need to start recording my children's memories or anything like that. If it's going to get used a lot and safe, and you can afford it, why not spring for the best on the big ticket items? Just be frugal on the little shit.
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I take a while to buy stuff too. I have access to some nice video equiptment, a pro-level Sony and that Canon HF20 at work...the main thing is I like to travel light and easy.

For example, I will travel with only a point and shoot versus bringing an SLR. I wanted to see if taking the small camcorder would suffice versus having the bigger Canon compact camcorder.


Portability and ease is probably my number one concern. I just don't want to end up at home with crappy video, if its "decent" then I'm fine with it.
 
See this is what I kind of had in mind. this is me shooting on my little compact camera, its in 720 resolution but its still a bit grainy and shitty (my technique sucks, yeah, I'm trying to get better).

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but I wanted to have on my TV 5-7 minute travel videos of places I go I can watch easily (going to use WD live I think to do so).
 
see for a lot of the shots, me with a camcorder will be kind of strange....i like "quick hit" videos of daily life.
 
crap, can't export 1920x1080 video on imovie. only lets me do 720.

i took some test today too. let me play around wiff i.
 
Two points.

Most HD TVs, particularly ones sold in the last 3-5 years, are 1080p, not 1080i. A 1080p TV will play 1080i just fine, in fact I don't think it would be any worse than 1080p because the TV has to deinterlace the 1080i anyway and the 1920x1080 pixels are the same. Of course the video source and compression makes a huge difference in picture quality. 720 on a 1080 TV has to be stretched to fit the screen - there simply aren't enough pixels in the source. Crappy compression means crappy picture. Crappy camera (optics, electronics) means crappy picture, too.

Second, how to export 1080 HD movies from iMovie:

http://www.maciverse.com/export-hd-video-from-imovie-09.html
 
damn, uploading the 720HD version of it right now. I'll do a 1080 export and see how it looks on youtube.
 
Sweet, its a little different, I have a new version. I set it to 60fps x 1080. Should I have deinterlaced the video?
 
Depends on how you're going to play it. From a PC with HDMI, it probably does 1080p and I wouldn't deinterlace it.

If you're going to burn a DVD that isn't blu ray, then 1080i or even 720 would be ok.
 
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