VSL Game 2: Blazers vs Celtics - 5:30 p.m. CSNNW/ESPN2

[Natebishop3]

Why do you feel the need to stop defending Duck football players once they leave? Please justify your short-term loyalty.

Loyalty to the players? That's absurd. They're not entitled to a successful pro career, nor is it my job to defend them to other fans. They can stand on their own merits. I enjoy watching college football. It's not my job to support them once they graduate.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

You know how everyone is always clamoiring for defensive players? We played decent defense today but nobody could score so we ended up losing...

Just to clarify; I think there have been a lot of people hoping for two-way players.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Hunter threw a fit when he got taken out today. His body language was terrible all game. I hope he doesn't play another game for us.

The only reason I can think of that this guy is playing is that Neil (for some reason) is doing a favor for Hunter's agent.

 

[BBert]

Is there video of the game? I missed it.

Man, you are so lucky. I watched the whole thing.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

The thing is, I thought the kid was supposed to be super confident...

He is. That's why he's so frustrated....

 

[Boob-No-More]

Just to clarify; I think there have been a lot of people hoping for two-way players.

Yep, me included.

There has also been constant bashing of several of our current players by many in this forum due to their poor defense. Yes, Collins has struggled on offense, but his defense has been quite good.

Some people are always glass-half-empty pessimists. Collins, as a weak 19-year old, is showing solid defensive instincts and fundamentals, but because he isn't posting gaudy numbers in the box scores after a whopping 2 summer league games we are getting multiple threads questioning the pick.

Everyone needs to relax. He will get stronger. He will get better.

BNM

 

[BBert]

I watched the two summer league games, and was thinking man, Collins is no where near ready to play ahead of Meyers. Except that Collins kept making defensive plays. And even when he wasn't strong enough to win the play, he was making the right play. Over and over again, Collins is contesting and making the right defensive play. Give him two years to learn the game, get stronger, and improve his offense and I think we may have a pretty good player. Those wanting him to step in this season though, as I've said before, I think will most likely be disappointed. What I'm dreading is the armchair quarterbacking on this board of people bitching that Collins is on the bench whenever Meyers is on the floor. I love you maniacs, so I guess I'll just put up with it.

 

[Trackjack]

What Olshey does he focus on 4 players this summer layman pat Collins Swanigan. Then he gets a bunch of players to fill the rest of the team. One reason we don't good in summer league. You got 2 rookies that went through workout after workout so they might be little tired and might have lost some of there legs. There put through 4 practice and they start playing so if you expect a lot don't it not going to happen. All I been looking how they react on defense and so far Collin and Swanigan have pass that test.

 

[BBert]

Collins also seems to have pretty good rebounding smarts. He seems to know where he should be, and he works to get there. Problem is, I keep seeing bigs on the other team just move him out of the way. On our first possession last night, Collins was in perfect rebounding position in front of the rim. The defender just hooked him and moved him around to his back like he was made of cardboard, and sealed him off from the basket. I'll say that was the worst example that I noticed, but yeah, he doesn't have a lot of lower body strength.

 

[riverman]

*sniffle*

No.

Shouldn't have stolen HCP's likes that one time.....what bothers me more is your 115 trophy pts....everyone else has been stuck on 113 for years now...that mysterious 2 extra points is an inflated stat!!!!!

 

[dviss1]

Man, you are so lucky. I watched the whole thing.

So no video?

 

[BBert]

So no video?

Not me. DVR'd, then deleted ASAP.

I would have thought they'd show replays of these SL games? No?

 

[Jade Falcon]

So no video?

Highlights will probably pop up on the Blazer's website.....? It's not the same, I know.

 

[Trackjack]

Collins also seems to have pretty good rebounding smarts. He seems to know where he should be, and he works to get there. Problem is, I keep seeing bigs on the other team just move him out of the way. On our first possession last night, Collins was in perfect rebounding position in front of the rim. The defender just hooked him and moved him around to his back like he was made of cardboard, and sealed him off from the basket. I'll say that was the worst example that I noticed, but yeah, he doesn't have a lot of lower body strength.

Believe me he will get stronger so I think he properly a year away to get that strength not saying he won't play this year. But he has time he already have good instinct on both end the only problem is strength.

 

[H.C.]

So no video?

I'll give you a step by step process on how to watch the game last night.
Turn on your ps4, put 2k17 in.
Go to sliders and move all shooting sliders to 1
Then simulate a game between Portland and Boston.

Bam you'll be watching the game from last night.

 

[dviss1]

I'll give you a step by step process on how to watch the game last night.
Turn on your ps4, put 2k17 in.
Go to sliders and move all shooting sliders to 1
Then simulate a game between Portland and Boston.

Bam you'll be watching the game from last night.

 

[MickZagger]

I'm so confused about who these people are


Why do you feel the need to defend all Zags players? I like Ducks football but I don't go around defending their players once they leave.

I've defended a lot of Blazers (whether they were Zags, or not) that fans like to jump all over. I remember myself being a staunch McCollum believer when 85% of "fans" on this board wanted him gone. I've also staunchly supported Meyers far longer than most. Now I want that guy out. I'm still a big Harkless fan. Maybe my favorite Blazer. I want Aminu gone though.

I defend a lot of Blazers that this fickle fanbase chooses is their flavor of the week to jump all over.

In response, to the poster I was referring to. I asked him if he's ever watched SL before, because SL doesn't mean shit. I didn't expect much out of Collins in this SL and I even told MM that last week in a post. There's no structure, too many fouls, the guards (especially Blazer SL guards) are horrible, there's no spacing. Its a glorified pickup game. I've seen Bo Outlaw who was an offensively inept NBA player. The guy dominated SL.

http://ballislife.com/bo-outlaw-aka-king-of-the-summer-league-tribute/

 

[Natebishop3]

I've defended a lot of Blazers (whether they were Zags, or not) that fans like to jump all over. I remember myself being a staunch McCollum believer when 85% of "fans" on this board wanted him gone. I've also staunchly supported Meyers far longer than most. Now I want that guy out. I'm still a big Harkless fan. Maybe my favorite Blazer. I want Aminu gone though.

I defend a lot of Blazers that this fickle fanbase chooses is their flavor of the week to jump all over.

In response, to the poster I was referring to. I asked him if he's ever watched SL before, because SL doesn't mean shit. I didn't expect much out of Collins in this SL and I even told MM that last week in a post. There's no structure, too many fouls, the guards (especially Blazer SL guards) are horrible, there's no spacing. Its a glorified pickup game. I've seen Bo Outlaw who was an offensively inept NBA player. The guy dominated SL.

http://ballislife.com/bo-outlaw-aka-king-of-the-summer-league-tribute/

He dominated summer league back when there were celebrities and shit. He wouldn't dominate in today's SL. People need to stop comparing the modern SL to what it originally was.

 

[MickZagger]

He dominated summer league back when there were celebrities and shit. He wouldn't dominate in today's SL. People need to stop comparing the modern SL to what it originally was.

It was in 2003 when not all teams were represented in SL. He was on the free agent team with Todd Day and Penny Hardaway. No celebrities involved. But mainly undrafted players filling out the rosters. Which isn't much different from today's SL teams.

 

[Natebishop3]

It was in 2003 when not all teams were represented in SL. He was on the free agent team with Todd Day and Penny Hardaway. No celebrities involved. But mainly undrafted players filling out the rosters. Which isn't much different from today's SL teams.

It still wasn't the same thing as modern day SL. Totally different animal.