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GDiama said:
I think there are teams that would like one more pick. They would tank anyway so why not get Turner for a year. They can even buy him out later this season. I don't see why they wouldn't want him if a pick is attached. But for sure you are not getting a 2nd pick back. Nobody would give pick 33 for Turner+25.
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So just give him away and a pick for absolutely nothing at all? Wow how the mighty have fallen?
 
Leonard Harkless Turner will get more attractive toward closer to trade deadline. But that will be for only players for expiring contracts
 
Blazer4ever said:
Check out his and the bench plus minus from the last game, he runs the offense behind Dame and does a good job, I like him and I would keep him
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I have been to a few games. There is no question that Turner does command a certain amount of respect and he has something that juices up the players around him. Seriously watching him live on the court and on the sidelines is a different feel than what you see on TV.
 
hoopsjock said:
Well technically you can if the buyout amount is the full amount of his contract, LOL.

With one year left on our bad deals, stretching them now would kill us for 3 years instead of 1. It's so not worth it.
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Yeah you might miss out on another triple double too.
 
So, is this what is meant by the thread title with respect to ET?

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Oh God. Please don't keep his contract here longer than it needs to be.

If anything we should see if we can trade him for another guy who's having a shit playoffs: Gordon Hayward. Both of these guys could use a change of scenery. That glut of wings in Boston is destroying him. He will never live up to his contract, but he'll be a helluva lot better than ET here.
 
James lamphear said:
Leonard Harkless Turner will get more attractive toward closer to trade deadline. But that will be for only players for expiring contracts
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Firstly, we are stuck with them this offseason. Half of the league are FAs, making it about the best time ever to have $$$. Teams with space aren't going to take on huge salaries, even with a 1st rounder as a sweetener. It's theoretically possible that some team that missed in FA and is under the min. salary level will take one of them off our hands for a draft pick. Unlikely, but possibly worth it to get under the tax.

Secondly, @James lamphear is on to something here. They will have value at the next trade deadline in the middle of next season. However, one has to ask: are they worth more to us as expirings at that point than what other teams would be offering?
 
Teams with cap space would probably prefer to offer big deals to mid-range free agents like Brogdon and Randle, hoping they accept them rather than absorb salary to get a late first rounder. It doesn’t help that all hopeless teams from this year will probably expect to be decent next year with the exception of Cavs and maybe Bulls, Pelicans and Grizzlies (the last two will have no cap space left anyway).

Suns, Knicks, Hawks and Mavs will want to be good and not spend much longer tanking.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
However, one has to ask: are they worth more to us as expirings at that point than what other teams would be offering?
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It almost entirely depends on what player would be coming back in the trade. Depending on what happens this summer we might not have cap space in 2020 anyway so it's hard to say quite yet.

I will say though that acquiring certain players that were traded this year for example like Kristaps Porzingis, Otto Porter, or Tobias Harris is likely way better than anyone we could sign with cap space. You just don't want to trade expirings for a crappy player like Nic Batum unless the Hornets gave us something extremely valuable along with him (Bridges/lottery pick/etc.).
 
The guy should be getting zero minutes at this point. He used to have a somewhat dependable ugly short turn-around jumper. Now he bricks everything horribly. Give more minutes to Rodney, Curry, or even put Layman out there to spread the floor.
 
kjironman1 said:
So just give him away and a pick for absolutely nothing at all? Wow how the mighty have fallen?
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He is literally worth nothing. All that he offers is depth if there is injury but normally you can find it cheaper.

With the cap situation though even if we get rid of him we cannot sign anybody unless we renounce players so it won't make any dif. I guess just hold one more year.
 
Your try to trade Turner/Meyers during the draft, but it probably won't happen. I expect them to be dealt at the trade deadline. Thing is, less and less teams are going to have space
 
Chris Craig said:
Your try to trade Turner/Meyers during the draft, but it probably won't happen. I expect them to be dealt at the trade deadline. Thing is, less and less teams are going to have space
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Atlanta is the only team with cap-space and their GM has already said he's not interested in another 2019 first since he already has two. Maybe that was a tactical statement, but this draft may be the worst in a long time in terms of teams attaching picks to bad salary. Once again, Portland has bad timing
 
the bad thing about stretching Turner is it doesn't give Portland cap-space. Even worse, it doesn't give the Blazers enough margin to use the full-MLE. It's a lose-lose

the only reason to do so is if Jody Allen says minimal tax next season and ET needs to be stretched in order to re-sign Kanter and Hood while minimizing tax
 
wizenheimer said:
Atlanta is the only team with cap-space and their GM has already said he's not interested in another 2019 first since he already has two. Maybe that was a tactical statement, but this draft may be the worst in a long time in terms of teams attaching picks to bad salary. Once again, Portland has bad timing
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The Hawks aren't under the cap. No team is enough below to help us until the new league year begins.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Firstly, we are stuck with them this offseason. Half of the league are FAs, making it about the best time ever to have $$$. Teams with space aren't going to take on huge salaries, even with a 1st rounder as a sweetener. It's theoretically possible that some team that missed in FA and is under the min. salary level will take one of them off our hands for a draft pick. Unlikely, but possibly worth it to get under the tax.

Secondly, @James lamphear is on to something here. They will have value at the next trade deadline in the middle of next season. However, one has to ask: are they worth more to us as expirings at that point than what other teams would be offering?
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It really what there offering and I wouldn't take on anyone that not expiring too and upgrade our roster. So basically we are probably stuck with the whole season.
 
Hey said:
The guy should be getting zero minutes at this point. He used to have a somewhat dependable ugly short turn-around jumper. Now he bricks everything horribly. Give more minutes to Rodney, Curry, or even put Layman out there to spread the floor.
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Layman is 6 for 21 in his last 10 games he has played and shot from 3. I think Denver would be happy to have Jake out there shooting 3's. Plus as soon as he did come in in game 2 they attacked him on defense until Stotts had to take him out because he was getting burned so bad. Jake needs to stay on the bench.
 
This would be part of a bigger plan to retain hood, curry and kanter.

Trade our 1st for Meyers relief
Trade HARK for a 2nd
Waive stretch turner
Let aminu walk

We'd have 19 mil in cap plus mle.
 
beast crnjo said:
This would be part of a bigger plan to retain hood, curry and kanter.

Trade our 1st for Meyers relief
Trade HARK for a 2nd
Waive stretch turner
Let aminu walk

We'd have 19 mil in cap plus mle.
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First of all, you don't get the MLE if you go below the cap.

2nd of all, as I've stated numerous times there isn't a single team that can take Harkless or Leonard before the new league year starts without giving us close to equal salary in return. Once free agency starts teams are going to be trying to pursue free agents, not wasting their cap space on our crap. By the time teams would possibly be willing to use cap space for the trades you suggested free agency is practically winding down.

Kanter, Hood, and Curry aren't restricted free agents. They aren't going to wait around for 10-14 days in hopes that Portland might be able to open up some room while other teams spend all their money.

I'm not saying those guys are definitely gone but the only way they stay is if they accept below market value.
 
Well..maybe we should unload cj. I don't think we'd miss him much. Lakers have a lot of space and want a star. Trade him for their #1, or have them take Meyers. Let Simons and hood take over.
 
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