Want to Know Why Hickson Only Plays 28 MPG?

[PapaG]

Take a look at net production/On-court Off-court/Simple Rating

http://www.82games.com/1213/1213POR.HTM

Let's trade LMA and build around Hickson and Lillard, though.

 

[PapaG]

Hickson give up almost a 20 PER to whoever he defends during a game, and the team is more productive with him off the court versus on the court.


A role player, and it would be foolish to throw big money at him. The MLE would be awesome, though, and anybody who pays over it will regret it, IMO.

For jlprk, if you read this, look at LMA's "off court" number. It shows why having a solid PER guy who can play a lot of minutes is important to any team, especially when his replacement is garbage, as is the case for the forwards off of the Blazer bench.

 

[Nikolokolus]

But he's a hustler!!

 

[THE HCP]

But he's a hustler!!

You rang?

 

[jlprk]

Hickson sits either 1) to give Leonard time or 2) because Leonard is better. Your chart says that Hickson is +1.1 and Leonard is -6.1, a 7.2 difference.

Why, I do believe the answer is 1).

 

[jlprk]

I should add theory number 3) because of frequent foul trouble. But the opposite is true. Hickson's never in foul trouble.

 

[jlprk]

The chart does confirm what we already know, that Aldridge (matched against a smaller opponent) is more efficient than Hickson (guarding and guarded by a larger opponent). If they traded positions, the difference between the two would decrease.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Take a look at net production/On-court Off-court/Simple Rating

http://www.82games.com/1213/1213POR.HTM

Let's trade LMA and build around Hickson and Lillard, though.

Did someone say "let's trade Aldridge so we can build around Hickson and Lillard"?

Cause I'm pretty sure everyone who wants to trade LaMarcus wants something in return. Trade is the key word here.

 

[Rhal]

The chart does confirm what we already know, that Aldridge (matched against a smaller opponent) is more efficient than Hickson (guarding and guarded by a larger opponent). If they traded positions, the difference between the two would decrease.

Wait wait wait... so your saying LA playing his natural position means he is guarding people smaller then him? Also hickson is guarded by the worst of the two bigs by the other team while there best big man defender guards LA not hickson.

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[Hobbesarable]

Take a look at net production/On-court Off-court/Simple Rating

http://www.82games.com/1213/1213POR.HTM

Let's trade LMA and build around Hickson and Lillard, though.

Did you forget to mention that LA plays 9 mpg more than Hickson?

He also attempts 9 FGA more per game.

If you're going to give an argument, then you should look at all aspects.

 

[jlprk]

Let's trade LMA and build around Hickson and Lillard, though.

If we trade Aldridge, we'll build around a superstar giveaway debacle, à la Dwight Howard or Chris Paul. It should be a trade up, not down.

 

[SnakeOiler]

this forum blows

 

[jlprk]

A Christmas night visit from the ghost of Scrooge!

 

[Nikolokolus]

this forum blows

Oh, you're still here?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

this forum blows

some people like lma, some like hickson

so they are talking about it, what blows?

 

[STOMP]

The chart does confirm what we already know, that Aldridge (matched against a smaller opponent) is more efficient than Hickson (guarding and guarded by a larger opponent). If they traded positions, the difference between the two would decrease.

defensive switches/rotations among Bigs happen on most every possession, often multiple times. If these switches didn't happen constantly, you'd have a point. JJ just isn't that good on or off the ball on D and he certainly isn't a shotblocker who intimidates slashers into pulling up from midrange

That said, I'm glad he's on the team as he's much better then whats behind him. Ideally he'd be coming off the bench as part of a Bigs rotation

STOMP

 

[Nikolokolus]

defensive switches/rotations among Bigs happen on most every possession, often multiple times. If these switches didn't happen constantly, you'd have a point. JJ just isn't that good on or off the ball on D and he certainly isn't a shotblocker who intimidates slashers into pulling up from midrange

That said, I'm glad he's on the team as he's much better then whats behind him. Ideally he'd be coming off the bench as part of a Bigs rotation

STOMP

This I absolutely agree with. Hickson strikes me as the kind of player who would be at his best as a sixth-seventh man type, who can come off the bench and expend a ton of energy at either front-court spots and help turn a contest in your favor. Players like him (hustle types who are slightly undersized) tend to reach a point of diminishing marginal utility as they go past about the 20-25 minutes mark in a game.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

I, for one, am happy that J.J. Hickson is a Blazer. He is one of the main reasons they are where they are right now. He helps make this team fun to watch and easy to root for. If you demand more, then I feel sorry for you.

 

[jlprk]

Hickson sits either 1) to give Leonard time or 2) because Leonard is better. Your chart says that Hickson is +1.1 and Leonard is -6.1, a 7.2 difference. Why, I do believe the answer is 1).

I should add theory number 3) because of frequent foul trouble. But the opposite is true. Hickson's never in foul trouble.

And then there's theory number 4) that management limits his time to hold down his stats to limit other teams' offers next summer.

 

[Run BJM]

Agree that hes a prototype 3rd big on a good team. He can play at PF or C alongside the starting PF or C, hes energetic and physical, limited on defense and undersized. As a starter you hate his defense and lack of floor game. Off the bench you value the raw rebounding, scoring and energy.

 

[Sinobas]

What does that stat really mean though? Pavlovich is +7. Jefferies is +5 with a production of -20.

I wouldn't put too much into those stats. Hickson is a very good player.

 

[julius]

some people like lma, some like hickson

so they are talking about it, what blows?

and some like both.

btw, food poisoning on christmas sucks.

 

[magnifier661]

I don't know if any of you noticed but I saw hickson have a much improved defense.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Hickson can produce without having the offense run through him. More importantly, he's not only willing, he's eager to produce without the offense running through him.

 

[jlprk]

Hickson is an independent fighter who creates his own situation, not an immobile aircraft carrier serviced by smaller ships, taking 15 minutes to turn around. Unlike a queen bee, he gets out of the hive and waters the flowers.



Possibly my best post ever.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

and some like both.

btw, food poisoning on christmas sucks.

the whole east coast has the cold plague right now, i think we got 12 monkeyd on 12/21, its just gonna take a month or so to come to bloom

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Hickson can produce without having the offense run through him. More importantly, he's not only willing, he's eager to produce without the offense running through him.

So let's trade LMA and run the offense through him!

 

[3RA1N1AC]

the difference is hickson cant have the offense run through him, they would just trap him with the ball and let the turnovers flow

some people dont realize there is a reason why some players get touches and some get the scraps

 

[BlazerCaravan]

the difference is hickson cant have the offense run through him, they would just trap him with the ball and let the turnovers flow

some people dont realize there is a reason why some players get touches and some get the scraps

THIS! Exactly this!

 

[julius]

the whole east coast has the cold plague right now, i think we got 12 monkeyd on 12/21, its just gonna take a month or so to come to bloom

oh, I was blooming earlier today. Well, not blooming. just exploding.

Light a match and a courtesy flush, thank you kindly.