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I don’t either! And I’m thinking the region and the Iranian people that want freedom from the theocracy will be better of.
Yeah, like Iraq was? A million dead civilians later and it’s worse off then when we went in there. That’s not to mention our own people who never came back. A total waste just like a war with Iran will be, except Iran will be much worse.
 
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Yeah, we've heard this story before. Sorry, not trying to be a dick, but yeah, we've heard this story before. We are NOT liberators. We are NOT viewed as liberators. Haven't we at LEAST learned that over the last 20 years?
Im not for liberating
Yeah, like Iraq was? A million dead civilians later and it’s worse off then when we went in there.
Im not for nation building at all and I want our troops out of there, but if a terrorist has his sites on Americans then we need to react aggressively.
Im a libertarian that is not interested in nation building or war but if you come after me, my family or neighbors I will stand up and fight if needed. Wouldn't you?
 
For very different reasons Russia and Israel both want us in a military conflict with the middle east. Hopefully reports of further potential attacks by Iran is not coming from either of them.
 
Im not for liberating

Im not for nation building at all and I want our troops out of there, but if a terrorist has his sites on Americans then we need to react aggressively.
Im a libertarian that is not interested in nation building or war but if you come after me, my family or neighbors I will stand up and fight if needed. Wouldn't you?
Was Iran coming after you, your family or neighbors? They (supposedly) attacked and embassy that was highly fortified and already mostly evacuated. If I thought myself, my family and loved ones were in danger from Iran, yes, I would want to fight. I just don't think this even remotely qualifies and could potentially send us into a massive war with two unhinged leaders at the helm. I just don't see how this is good in any way.
 
Iran was a very modern and progressive country in the 1960’s, even a tourist destination for vacationers from the west, if you can believe it. That was right before we overthrew their government and installed puppet dictators. We fucked that country and put them where they are today. We’ve been strangling them with sanctions ever since.
One thing I have heard about the Iranian people is they're decent, freedom seeking, intelligent people. I get it. I just don't think this is the move and I certainly don't think it's the move with Trump. I mean, some level of diplomacy is required to be President. Not everything is a fucking cock off.
 
Thanks for posting. Man, this Suleimani guy is a massive piece of shit. Glad he's dead. I just have one counterpoint, though. I feel some risk assessment should be implemented in this move and I fear there was none and our administration has zero idea how to deal with this going forward sans a "my cock is bigger than yours" policy and that's what scares me. Glad the dude is dead. Super glad. Now what. Now what.
 
Let's take a complete overview of this situation.

1. Iran started it with the attack against our embassy in Iraq.

2. The guy we just killed was an evil piece of shit.

3. Trump does not read briefings or listen to experts.

4. Trump has a very short attention span.

5. We closed all diplomatic channels when we pulled out of the Iranian Nuclear Deal and imposed sanctions.

6. We as a nation are in a very difficult position with questionable leadership guiding us.
 
Was Iran coming after you, your family or neighbors? They (supposedly) attacked and embassy that was highly fortified and already mostly evacuated. If I thought myself, my family and loved ones were in danger from Iran, yes, I would want to fight. I just don't think this even remotely qualifies and could potentially send us into a massive war with two unhinged leaders at the helm. I just don't see how this is good in any way.
I have a son in Qatar and friends with kids and grandkids in the region and if we had intel that this guy was orchestrating attacks Americans as he has done for years take him out!
If you did nothing knowing he wasn’t in Baghdad passing out roses but rather planning on killing more of our service men and women then what.
 
Thanks for posting. Man, this Suleimani guy is a massive piece of shit. Glad he's dead. I just have one counterpoint, though. I feel some risk assessment should be implemented in this move and I fear there was none and our administration has zero idea how to deal with this going forward sans a "my cock is bigger than yours" policy and that's what scares me. Glad the dude is dead. Super glad. Now what. Now what.
Not to be snarky but ya think?
 
He wants to win an election. Period. Americans will get killed because of this.
 
Yeah, we've heard this story before. Sorry, not trying to be a dick, but yeah, we've heard this story before. We are NOT liberators. We are NOT viewed as liberators. Haven't we at LEAST learned that over the last 20 years?
You meant 30 years. I kid obviously but this is ridiculous.
 
The question we need to give the answer to our elected officials is if Iran retaliates against Saudi Arabia for this, will that be enough to go to war over.

Because that is where they will most likely attack.
 
Not to be snarky but ya think?
Well, you know, I'm seeing an awful lot of 'Merica fuck yeah on social media and It's only going to get worse. Worse than it's been. I'd die for a normal conversation here as we embark on a potentially seismic event. Again, if we've learned anything over the last 20 years (and more so the last 12), is maybe we could just talk and try to learn.....but this time on the fly? I don't know man. I'm trying.
 
I thought Trump was anti war so he got us out of Syria? Is that not true? I mean that’s what he told us.
 
Well, you know, I'm seeing an awful lot of 'Merica fuck yeah on social media and It's only going to get worse. Worse than it's been. I'd die for a normal conversation here as we embark on a potentially seismic event. Again, if we've learned anything over the last 20 years (and more so the last 12), is maybe we could just talk and try to learn.....but this time on the fly? I don't know man. I'm trying.
No i agree with everything you posted above. But Captain Dumbfuck doesn’t think two steps ahead, and anyone around who might he doesn’t listen to. This was a major decision and will have huge consequences.
 
No i agree with everything you posted above. But Captain Dumbfuck doesn’t think two steps ahead, and anyone around who might he doesn’t listen to. This was a major decision and will have huge consequences.
This is idiotic and what I'd hoped we were going to avoid with Bolton gone. He's just made himself a one term president. Impeachment wasn't going to do it. This will
 
I was agreeing with you. Read past the first word.
I did. What was ridiculous? If my original post was what you're labeling as ridiculous and you started the post calling me a dumbass then you're simply bending the rules which is fine I guess but I'm not stupid.
 
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