Was 9/11 George Bush's fault?

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Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault?

I think it was. But some dumb sh*t for brains said she thought it was clinton's fault for not killing bin laden when he had the chance.My question is: Why did GW go after Saddam then? If Saddam was behind it like they act, then killing Bin Laden wouldn't matter, since Saddam would've just had someone else do it.Another question is, how did all the trade centers fall. I just saw this morning that it's not 2 TCs, there's actually a little complex with about 7 of them. There were only 2 planes, so did only some of the towers fall, or all of them? I don't understand that. Very fishy, a bit like Pearl Harbor, only with less reason.
 
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probably because of the force of the other towers collapsingI remember reading that WTC 3 (I think) which was one of the smaller towers didnt collapse until 5:00 that day so it must have had some time to deteriorate or something
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jhowardfan @ Sep 12 2006, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>probably because of the force of the other towers collapsingI remember reading that WTC 3 (I think) which was one of the smaller towers didnt collapse until 5:00 that day so it must have had some time to deteriorate or something</div>CONSPIRACY: Or there were bombs in that building that destroyed it later... O.o Good info though.
 
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This has to be one of the most stupid "conspiracies" I have ever heard. That's like saying it's McDonalds fault if I get fat and have a heart attack. I think all these damn conspiracies are just a ton of bullsh**. I've watched a few documentries on the computer about this stuff and its just so stupid.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Sep 12 2006, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think it was. But some dumb sh*t for brains said she thought it was clinton's fault for not killing bin laden when he had the chance.My question is: Why did GW go after Saddam then? If Saddam was behind it like they act, then killing Bin Laden wouldn't matter, since Saddam would've just had someone else do it.Another question is, how did all the trade centers fall. I just saw this morning that it's not 2 TCs, there's actually a little complex with about 7 of them. There were only 2 planes, so did only some of the towers fall, or all of them? I don't understand that. Very fishy, a bit like Pearl Harbor, only with less reason.</div>There are other buildings for the World Trade Center. But the Twin Towers were the ones hit, and they are part of the WTC.
 
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Clinton had the Chance to kill Bin Laden in 98 I think, but he called it off for political reasons. Looking back, what a missed opportunity.
 
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It's "fishy" because you have no idea what you're talking about.And yes, Clinton did have a chance to go after bin Laden. In 2000, I did a current event thing for my speech class in high school. It was about the attack on the USS Cole, which happened during Clinton's time in office, albeit towards the end of it.Bush also had a chance. He was informed in August of 2001 that bin Laden was planning something. But no, it was real. The conspiracies are stupid and illogical. People talk because they lack knowledge, not because they know something that others don't. That's when you can actually start talking about conspiracies.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Sep 12 2006, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Watch this - it'll change everything you ever thought about 9/11 and past tradgedies like pearl harbor...maybehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...&q=Loose+change</div> Please don't tell me you believe in that 9/11 conspiracy crap...people that start these conspiracys act like their is something behind everything and that nothing just happens...so they think something big had to have happened. All these slime rely on is quotes taken out of context and spreading mis-information. If any of you believe that 9/11 conspiracy garbage, please, I'd love to hear your points/opinions. :thumbdn1:
 
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Bush nor his administration had nothing to do with 9/11. him and his administration were not in the presidentcy long enough to carry out an attack of that mangnitude. The Conspiracy theorist have lost their minds with all this dribble they keep spilling out. just because there are certain things mentioned before 9/11 didn't mean anyone knew what was being planned. Sec. Rice said it right when she said "we had no clue someone would take and hijack an airplane and use it as a missle". Terrorist usually try something small before they go for the big hit, this time they didn't.Clinton should take some of the responisibility because he had three chances to get Bin Laden. one when he first came into office, another one in about 96, and one in around 98. after the attacks on the Embassies in Africa, Clinton should have done more than just bomb a few factory terrorist camps. but the real one who should take the rap for 9/11 is the security guy who failed to give the planes to President Clintons, which said Al Quida planed an attack against the US.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Sep 12 2006, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bush nor his administration had nothing to do with 9/11. him and his administration were not in the presidentcy long enough to carry out an attack of that mangnitude. The Conspiracy theorist have lost their minds with all this dribble they keep spilling out. just because there are certain things mentioned before 9/11 didn't mean anyone knew what was being planned. Sec. Rice said it right when she said "we had no clue someone would take and hijack an airplane and use it as a missle". Terrorist usually try something small before they go for the big hit, this time they didn't.Clinton should take some of the responisibility because he had three chances to get Bin Laden. one when he first came into office, another one in about 96, and one in around 98. after the attacks on the Embassies in Africa, Clinton should have done more than just bomb a few factory terrorist camps. but the real one who should take the rap for 9/11 is the security guy who failed to give the planes to President Clintons, which said Al Quida planed an attack against the US.</div>Ok - I agree that a lot of it is pretty far-fetched, but at the same time, a lot of it makes you wonder. You can't say that 100% of the conspiracy theorists info is wrong because they've actually researched this stuff like crazy...I mean to make that Loose Change documentary you would have to do so much work for that 1 hour + movie...so it can't be all BS. and just because something is called a conspiracy theory doesn't mean it can't be true...take a look at it this way...1st a question is asked.2nd a theory is formed, and it becomes a conspiracty theory.3rd research is done about the topic, and you begin to find evidence to support this theory.4th With enough evidence, a theory automatically becomes a fact.thats how I view it - for some of those things on the Loose Change Documentary I've been convinced that some of those things are true - theres no other way around it because the amount of evidence they showed us.BCB have you watched Loose Change - all of it?
 
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I've seen Loose Change, and there are a lot of innacuracies in it. such as the part about the US only having seven fighter jets in US airspace at the time, thats BS. also, a lot of things they bring up are just coincidences. such as the insurance policy on the WTC. when you think about it, taking an insurance policy on it is a no brainer. it was a known target, and had been attacked before.A theory doesn't become a fact, it can become common knowledge, but it isn't a fact. people believed the Sun Rotated around the Earth, thats not a fact.
 
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My World History teacher this morning was talking about how it was Clinton's fault. There was this guy who was giving the government information for most of the time Clinton was in office and the government decided to ignore it. That's pretty much all I know. And then later on he said something about the attacks happening after he got killed and he was murdered on September 9th. I wish I would have listened better so I could put more into this thread...
 
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You can't blame Clinton. Nobody really took Bin Ladin seriously, I mean they knew who he was but all of his attacks were in other countries, the USA seemed too safe for that to happen. Preventing a freak occurence like 9/11 wasn't high on the to-do list. The worst attack on US soil before 9/11 was the oklahoma city bombing. That was done with a truck filled with explosives. The WTC was very prepared for that possibility. In fact, the WTC was ready for all possible attacks that have been thought of. Of course nobody thought of flying an airplane into them.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Sep 13 2006, 12:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My World History teacher this morning was talking about how it was Clinton's fault. There was this guy who was giving the government information for most of the time Clinton was in office and the government decided to ignore it. That's pretty much all I know. And then later on he said something about the attacks happening after he got killed and he was murdered on September 9th. I wish I would have listened better so I could put more into this thread...</div>are you refering to the Northern Alliance guy who had been screaming about Bin Laden for years? because if it was him, nobody took him serious either because he was thought to be a terrorist as well.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Sep 12 2006, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My World History teacher this morning was talking about how it was Clinton's fault. There was this guy who was giving the government information for most of the time Clinton was in office and the government decided to ignore it. That's pretty much all I know. And then later on he said something about the attacks happening after he got killed and he was murdered on September 9th. I wish I would have listened better so I could put more into this thread...</div> Your World History teacher is an idiot. From what I've been reading it seems like some of you watched that 'Path to 9/11' series on TV which was not a true documentary, much of it was complete bullsh**.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Sep 13 2006, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your World History teacher is an idiot. From what I've been reading it seems like some of you watched that 'Path to 9/11' series on TV which was not a true documentary, much of it was complete bullsh**.</div>yeah, that series isn't a documentary - that's what you call a "docudrama" - don't get confused between the two; they added things in the story line to make it more marketable to the audience.
 
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault?

George Bush didnt cause 9/11 Bin Laden and Al Queda did, but Bush and National Security are still guilty for not taking the warnings seriously....that was a horrible mistake.
 
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I have had the opinions I have for years, long before there was any type of documentary, docudrama, fictional work, or whatever made about the subject. The fact remains that there are a lot of people at fault, Clinton and Bush included. They could have stopped or mitigated the damage caused on 9/11. However, hindsight is 20/20, so placing blame on one or two person(s) shoulders isn't exactly fair.I have had the opinions I have for years, long before there was any type of documentary, docudrama, fictional work, or whatever made about the subject. The fact remains that there are a lot of people at fault, Clinton and Bush included. They could have stopped or mitigated the damage caused on 9/11. However, hindsight is 20/20, so placing blame on one or two persons' shoulders isn't exactly fair.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Sep 13 2006, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your World History teacher is an idiot. From what I've been reading it seems like some of you watched that 'Path to 9/11' series on TV which was not a true documentary, much of it was complete bullsh**.</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Sep 13 2006, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>George Bush didnt cause 9/11 Bin Laden and Al Queda did, but Bush and National Security are still guilty for not taking the warnings seriously....that was a horrible mistake.</div>I didn't watch the path to 9/11 series but I've been researching a lot of stuff mentioned in loose change, and other 9/11 films that continually say that George Bush and the government had something to do with 9/11. the reason the NSA never took the stuff serious is because for the most part no body took Al Quida seriously. the Saudis didn't really take him serious even after he blew up their buildings. also, a lot of people seem to forget the NSA, CIA, Military Inteligents and other enforcment agentcies had their attention turned to China which had just nearly shot down a US plane, and than captured the crew. there was a lot of fear within the CIA especially that China could be using inteligence gathered from the plane to learn military secrets about the US. now when you weight the two which is a more serious threat, a bunch of "dune bunnies" or a military super power with a billion soliders. the warnings about 9/11 had been comming in since the mid 90s, but neither the Clinton nor Bush administrations took them serios, because like I said there were bigger fish to fry. As for blaming Clinton, there should be equal if not more blame placed on him for 9/11 as there is on Bush. 9/11 was planned well before GWB was even a canidate for the Presidency. Clintons inactions about the embassy bombings and the attack on the USS Cole also emboldened the terrorist. Clinton also showed weakness in the US military many times including Kosivo and Mogidishu.
 
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Much of Kosovo/Somalia...etc...was NATO...
 
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you guys are slow. Bush set up 9/11. One week before 9/11 bush evacuted the towers due to a security thing. While that took place bush or his brother (govenor of florida) placed bombs in the towers. If you take a pic of the towers, you will see that the towers blew up before the planes hit. fishy ain't it? Plus if you look it up, the towers were built to widstand plane crashes. There is no way the towers could just blow up and fall after a crash. Also the first floor blew up too. How did that happen? I have pics of 9/11, I'll find them and show them. Once you see them you'll know it was bush.
 
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yes show me the pictures, because there is no way Bush was behind it.the towers were designed to withstand an airplane impact from a plane going at a slow rate of speed and low on feul. the planes that hit were going at a high rate of speed(500mph I believe), and were nearly full of fuel. when they hit they caused fires, and the building actually worked as an insulator, making it hotter inside. Steel also loses half of its structual integrity at a certain tempature, which the build surely hit. the weakend steel combined with the gravitational force, and weight of the building is the reason why it collapsed. if you watch the video footage of them falling, you see that its the top levels which fell first, than their inertia caused a chain reaction which caused the rest of the building to fall down. a lot of the lower few levels were somewhat intact, their damage was caused by the weight of the rest of the building pancaking them.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (desi tmac91 @ Sep 13 2006, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>you guys are slow. Bush set up 9/11. One week before 9/11 bush evacuted the towers due to a security thing. While that took place bush or his brother (govenor of florida) placed bombs in the towers. If you take a pic of the towers, you will see that the towers blew up before the planes hit. fishy ain't it? Plus if you look it up, the towers were built to widstand plane crashes. There is no way the towers could just blow up and fall after a crash. Also the first floor blew up too. How did that happen? I have pics of 9/11, I'll find them and show them. Once you see them you'll know it was bush.</div>I never insult members, I have to set an example. But you are an idiot. It obviously blew up after the plane hit.
 
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Glad to see Tony isn't an idiot that believes in these conspiracies...if anyone on here believes in them, let me hear it.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Sep 13 2006, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Glad to see Tony isn't an idiot that believes in these conspiracies...if anyone on here believes in them, let me hear it.</div>I don't trust them 100% but I believe some of it - it can't all be BS...a person who spends money, and time to produce these documentaries isn't going to just put bullsh** to make the government look bad - again, I don't believe a lot of the things said, but you have to believe it to an extent...and I am not an idiot for believing some of these theories.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Sep 13 2006, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't trust them 100% but I believe some of it - it can't all be BS...a person who spends money, and time to produce these documentaries isn't going to just put bullsh** to make the government look bad - again, I don't believe a lot of the things said, but you have to believe it to an extent...and I am not an idiot for believing some of these theories.</div> I'm sure most of these people making these little films are not living on the street, they either have the money or get donations..etc..These little films they make are usually video from the internet and bullsh** evidence and quotes taken out of context....The most expensive video they have made cost $6,000 and that guy was loaded. What do you belive from watching these conspiracy people?
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Sep 13 2006, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm sure most of these people making these little films are not living on the street, they either have the money or get donations..etc..These little films they make are usually video from the internet and bullsh** evidence and quotes taken out of context....The most expensive video they have made cost $6,000 and that guy was loaded. What do you belive from watching these conspiracy people?</div>It doesn't matter where they got the money from, it's a lot of money to produce these kinds of things, it takes a lot of time, which is needed for research, interviews, editing, etc. - also, the clips included in the documentary "Loose Change" were not from the internet - they were from things like other 9/11 memoirs like CNN specials or FOX specials - all very conservative networks. The makers of "Loose Change" took those clips and analyzed them frame by frame which proved some things that I won't mention now - (just watch it). Also - while I believe you may be right about some quotes being taken out of context - things like the interviews for example with one of the suspected terrorists flight instructors was an exclusive interview done by the makers of "Loose Change" - that is authentic, and it gives evidence against what 'they' told us about 9/11. The thing I don't believe about 9/11 that this documentary produced as evidence is that George Bush or Cheney or any current Executive people didn't really have anything to do with 9/11...I DO think that politicians behind the scenes such as Wolfowitz did have something to do with this. Also - just as a point of reference - I do believe a lot of the Pearl Harbor conspiracies.As you know - The Depression was the worst time economically for the United States, when Pearl Harbor came along it seemed like it came at the perfect time because it spawned WWII - and something well known about war is that war gets countries out of depressions - it makes money - a lot of money. It puts companies to work, it puts people to work, overall it gives a huge boost to the economy - even big enough to get the you.S. out of the depression - a very tough thing to do. Currently - the United States is in a recession - we would've have been in worse condition, but thanks to Federal Organizations like the FDIC, we aren't as bad as we should be. (A recession is like a mini-depression) Now, using deductive reasoning - I want to think that 9/11 was done to trigger a war in order to get us out of our recession...yes it sounds farfetched now, but thats what they said about Pearl Harbor too back then...anyways...this war IS working to get the you.S. out of it's recession - the stock market is getting slowly, but surely better, and in about 5 years the United States will truely reap the benefits of this war. We have new connections to oil, we put our people to work, we put our soldiers to work, we put big companies to work that produce tanks, armored vehicles, artillary, missiles, helicopters, and all of those things that go into war...to work. When things like this happen, the economy is surged with money that without war wouldn't have been there. 5 years from now, we will be in a economic boom - garunteed. (and you can quote me if this board is still around..lol) Although a very minor sign of economic boost - workers are getting paid more and more by the year...for example in my state (Michigan) - minimum wage is increasing from $5.25 to $7.25 in November, and finally in January it'll increase another 50cents to $7.75 - that is a huge jump. Another state is California - California's new minimum wage is $8.00 p/h - a huge jump from it's old minimum wage. All these things are signs of economic boost - that means that this war is helping.So...basically, I think this war was 'engineered' to help the you.S. get out of our economic recession...sorry about the long post.
 
Re: Was 9/11 George Bush's fault?

Bush is responsible but it wasn't his faultin general I blame the american government between 96-01 which included Bush's administrationbut I also blame the Clinton administrationeven though both of them are just puppets to the real criminals
 
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Nobody is predicting an economic boom...their was no boom after the gulf war.Loose Change- rebuttal 🪨
 
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