Game Thread WCF - Warriors vs Zombie Sonics - Series thread

[bodyman5000 and 1]

No need to apologize.

Frankly, I can't believe how much it still hurts all these years later. I may never get over it.

It's why I rarely post in the main forum and make little effort to watch games. There, I said it.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

NBA will be reviewing the Draymond play on Adams.

They'll do nothing.

 

[Natebishop3]

 

[yenniedn]

Oddly enough, this is totally unbelievable yet not at all surprising. Can't believe that GSW came back from down 1-3 but not at all surprised that OKC would blow a 3-1 lead, after demolishing their opponents in games 3 and 4.

It's going to be unbearable around here until the LeBrons crush these guys. All those foolios that put away all their GSW gear last week are going to bring it all back out and pretend nothing happened. And even more bandwagoners will join the fray now. This is going to be a very annoying couple of weeks here; go LeBrons!

 

[PDXFonz]

I don't know. Warriors are really really good. Will be interesting to see.

*at breaking the rules

No way is Silver going to let Draymond pull that shit on King James.

 

[PDXFonz]

LeBron has 31.2M twitter followers. In the land of skunks the man with 31.2M twitter followers is king

 

[Natebishop3]

*at breaking the rules

No way is Silver going to let Draymond pull that shit on King James.

Or will he?

 

[Trackjack]

Okc has to consider trading Westbrook this off season because this formula what they have doesn't work no more. If I was Durant I well tell it him or me plus they mind as well get something for him before he bolts after next year. They no flexible in cap room thinks Blazers for the Kanter deal last year. So blow it OKC this off season.

 

[Natebishop3]

Okc has to consider trading Westbrook this off season because this formula what they have doesn't work no more. If I was Durant I well tell it him or me plus they mind as well get something for him before he bolts after next year. They no flexible in cap room thinks Blazers for the Kanter deal last year. So blow it OKC this off season.

If I'm OKC, I would MUCH rather keep Westbrook. Durant shit the bed big time.

 

[Trackjack]

If I'm OKC, I would MUCH rather keep Westbrook. Durant shit the bed big time.

Problem with that you might get your wish if Durant leave for FA. And might happen after this melt down and Westbrook became the coach. If both stays they need a 3 scorer. Ibaka is kind like Aminu he should like 4th option. But if Westbrook bolts next year to maybe to LA then they don't get nothing.

 

[andalusian]

I lived for a bit in the bay area so I have some love fir gsw. Will never cheer for the Bennett's.

Good riddance of OKC - they should never be allowed to win a ring after the Seattle fiasco.

 

[Minstrel]

I honestly don't think anybody has the chance to beat them for the next few years. If they are healthy and the league in their pocket.... I can easily see them winning four championships. Unless they move the three point line back

Moving the three-point line back would only benefit Curry and Thompson (and Lillard, for that matter) as they're the three players with the longest (consistent) range by far. A deeper three would hurt every other shooter much more than those three guys. Good for us, since Portland has Lillard, but even better for Golden State.

Moving the three-point line in would hurt Golden State, as it would mitigate their advantage over the rest of the league...but it would also make the game worse (worse spacing -> uglier game) and the league would never do that.

 

[SheedSoNasty]

but it would also make the game worse (worse spacing -> uglier game) and the league would never do that.

"again"... is the end of that sentence. Didn't Karl Malone and a bunch of other power forwards become three point shooters the year the line was moved in?

 

[Bandwagonfansince77]

Honestly, OKC is not broken. If the GSW didn't get miraculous play from Klay in game six along with similar heroics to varying degrees by Iguodala and others, the narrative switches from OKC (Durant and Westbrook) being chokers to GSW instead being defective in some fashion.

OKC is kind of like Clyde v Jordan, and Clyde's Blazers v Bulls. If Jordan didn't exist there would be no shadow on Clyde, and the Blazers could have been remembered in the 90s for being special. Unfortunately for OKC, they ran into a team that had a 73-9 season for a good reason. No shame on OKC, just like no shame on Clyde for having to play during Jordan's era.

I would love to see Durant come here eventually since he is a great player, but it makes no sense to move away from what is essentially a mental barrier to success in to an unknown and unproven team. Who knows for sure if Portland overachieved during our hot month or not? If we don't get crazy there and build confidence and momentum perhaps we just miss the playoffs and the perception remains we are rebuilding and years away from real success. Consequently we would be less enticing a destination for free agents and a player like KD would have little confidence in our ability to get the parts for a championship level team. Until we have the consistent pedigree of success we will not be able to gather a FA of Durant's status.

Also, I want to see Dame and CJ develop at least another year without a superstar in order to see where they take this team. Championships are nice, but this team's journey and story has been nothing short of inspirational and watching their development has been satisfying in a way that a Cleveland fan can't relate to. Cav fans are made up of Lebron fans which is total shit to me. If Dame were to leave the Blazers at some point I will not switch to become a fan of whatever team he joins. He will be the enemy whenever Portland plays him, simple as that. Switching favorite team based on a star player coming or going makes me sick to my stomach.

 

[Sinobas]

Who is this guy?

 

[Boob-No-More]

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

Who is this guy?

It's the Michael Jordan crying face meme Photoshopped onto Russell Westbrook.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

Accurate.

BNM

 

[selloutking]

Accurate.

BNM

not really though
cause reggie was calling out the other team choking
where as westbrook was DOING the choking

 

[Sinobas]

The 3pt line change is one of the main things that triggered the move to more 3pt shooting. The season prior, teams averaged 10 3pt attempts per game. After the rule change it jumped up to 15 and never looked back (today it's 24 per game).

The NBA got it in their mind that more points needed to be scored. The truth is that teams just started playing at a slower pace.

For example, in 1985 teams averaged 110 points per game with a Ortg of 107.2 The year before the implemented the rule, the scoring average had fallen to 101.5, but the ORtg was 106.2

So teams averaged 10 less points per game, but only 1 less point per 100 possessions. So the real culprit was pace. Teams in the 80s put up more shots per game.

 

[Boob-No-More]

not really though
cause reggie was calling out the other team choking
where as westbrook was DOING the choking

My bad. I thought that was a picture of Russell Westbrook looking in the mirror this morning.

And it is accurate. Nobody else chokes Westbrook, he chokes himself by trying, and failing at hero ball. When the game is on the line, Westbrook commits unforced turnovers, makes bad decisions and forces up bad shots. He is the reason they lost 15 regular season games when leading in the 4th quarter and he is the reason they choked away this series after being up 3-1 with dominant wins in games 3 and 4.

BNM

 

[Minstrel]

"again"... is the end of that sentence. Didn't Karl Malone and a bunch of other power forwards become three point shooters the year the line was moved in?

Yeah, I meant they'd never do it in this environment (in my opinion, at least). When they did it in the '90s, spacing was much less of an issue because offenses were so isolation-heavy. You don't need much spacing from shooters when offenses use illegal defense rules to "clear out" one side of the court for their best player to go one-on-one. Now, with illegal defense gone and teams making sophisticated use of zones, the less you can space the floor, the more of a logjam the paint becomes, choking off offense.

 

[Chris Craig]

Last team to almost choke on 3-1 WCF led was 2000 Lakers. And then we choked them out of it.

Asshole

 

[Chris Craig]

I just hope that now that the NBA has made sure the Warriors are in the finals, that they let it play out instead of giving it away to GS free of charge....tired of this leagues antics, a true disgrace to the game of basketball

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Somewhere Adam Silver is jacking off to the Draymond Green nut kick video.

 

[riverman]

The only positive I take from the playoffs after we're out of it is that free agents might get burned out on their situation and want a change of scenery..this is going to be a whirlwind of an off season and Portland is starting to look good around the league.

 

[Minstrel]

Did you guys want old scabs ripped open? No, well, neither did I, but I still had to read this and so now I share it:

As the Oklahoma City Thunder learned Monday night, it’s really tough to eliminate a defending NBA champion. After opening up a 3-1 series lead in the Western Conference finals, the Thunder were poised to knock the Golden State Warriors out for good — they led for almost the entirety of Game 6 before collapsing down the stretch, and they took a 6-point lead into the second half of Game 7. None of that mattered; the finishing blow was always just outside of OKC’s reach.

But, man, did the Thunder come close. In fact, according to our quarter-by-quarter analysis of seven-game playoff series since 1984,1 the Thunder — with a peak win probability of 95.8 percent going into the fourth quarter of Game 6 — came the seventh-closest to a series victory of any modern team that went on to lose. And in the conference finals, only the Portland Trail Blazers’ infamous collapse against the Los Angeles Lakers in 2000 was more unlikely.

Link

The "infamous collapse" link is to YouTube. I didn't click it. I'd suggest you guys don't either, but I don't want to tell you how to live your lives.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

That collapse put this franchise in purgatory for the better part of TWO decades.

Lets hope the same fate blesses Clay Bennett.