We have the pick, now what?

[Wizard Mentor]

Mathematically, we can't catch any of the teams ahead of us, so we should have our draft pick this year.

I assume we will be taking BPA, but I have a feeling it will be a 3 or a 4.

nbadraft.net and draftexpress.com have us taking Michael Carter-Williams.
espn lottery-mock is up and have us taking Kelly Olynyk.

Would you be happy with either of these guys?

 

[Reep]

If we don't end up in the top 3, I would rather they use the pick to add to a deal to get a game-ready player. I don't think a pick in the late lottery is going to help much.

Hard to believe Zeller is just about one pick ahead of us. Amazing how far he has fallen. Might be worth trying to trade up for Len.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Would we lose the pick if we got into the top 3?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Would we lose the pick if we got into the top 3?

No.

 

[craigehlo]

I think we could get a big at 12 that's better than any of the guys on the bench right now. Olynyk, Plumlee or Len (if he falls to 12) would all be upgrades over Freeland and Meyers.

 

[Sedatedfork]

We would lose the pick if we were at 12 and team 13 got in the top 3. But that's pretty unlikely. I agree with Reep. If we are not in the top 3, trade the pick (i.e. draft for a different team then make the trade).

 

[Natebishop3]

If we can make a deal that makes sense, I'd say trade the pick. If there isn't anything on the table, draft the BPA and start looking at free agency.

 

[Sedatedfork]

I think we could get a big at 12 that's better than any of the guys on the bench right now. Olynyk, Plumlee or Len (if he falls to 12) would all be upgrades over Freeland and Meyers.

All those guys seem like projects to me. Len would be nice, but how many projects do we need?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I think we could get a big at 12 that's better than any of the guys on the bench right now. Olynyk, Plumlee or Len (if he falls to 12) would all be upgrades over Freeland and Meyers.

Why do you think those three would all be better than Leonard right away? That makes absolutely no sense to me.

 

[THE HCP]

I thought we were like 2 games from the #11 pick?


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[PtldPlatypus]

I thought we were like 2 games from the #11 pick?

Yep. http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/group/1 We're only 1 game better than Philly in the loss column. 3 better than Minny, and 4 better than Toronto and Washington.

 

[THE HCP]

We still have a chance to move up..... A VERY good chance if you look how easy Philly's schedule is.


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[Wizard Mentor]

Yep. http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/group/1 We're only 1 game better than Philly in the loss column. 3 better than Minny, and 4 better than Toronto and Washington.

The win column is more relevant for losing teams, and we're behind 2 with 4 games to go. We're 1-1 vs. philly - I don't know who has the tie breaker.

So, it's very likely we're at 12 for the draft (again, assuming 13,14 don't move up)

 

[craigehlo]

Why do you think those three would all be better than Leonard right away? That makes absolutely no sense to me.

Meyers was a freshman that was drafted for his athleticism. He's still insanely raw and could have used more college experience IMHO. Dude is constantly lost on defensive rotations and had pretty limited footwork.

Plumlee is a senior, Olynyk is a junior and Len is a soph. I think you could expect the first two to be more game-ready in terms of not getting completely lost out there. Len is probably closer to Meyers in terms of rawness, but his physical stature would really help defense in the paint.

 

[RoyToy]

In terms of what I want out of a center going forward when it comes to protecting the rim, rebounding, etc, Meyers Leonard hasn't really shown a lot in these areas. His best skill this year has been catching oops and knocking down 15ft jumpers (something low on the list of what I want my center to be able to do).

Joel Przybilla with a little more offense is the goal. Noah/Chandler types are ideal.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Meyers was a freshman that was drafted for his athleticism. He's still insanely raw and could have used more college experience IMHO. Dude is constantly lost on defensive rotations and had pretty limited footwork.

Plumlee is a senior, Olynyk is a junior and Len is a soph. I think you could expect the first two to be more game-ready in terms of not getting completely lost out there. Len is probably closer to Meyers in terms of rawness, but his physical stature would really help defense in the paint.

Well I just disagree. I don't think those are compelling reasons.

I would bet money that none of those three guys you mentioned will have better rookie years than Meyers.

 

[craigehlo]

I would bet money that none of those three guys you mentioned will have better rookie years than Meyers.

Meyers is having a pretty mediocre year at 5.3 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.5 bpg with a PER of 12.54

I think all of them will have better numbers if given the same amount of playing time.

Meyers has some nice upside and has had a few sweet dunks, but is years away from being a quality starting C.

 

[Rhal]

Meyers was a freshman that was drafted for his athleticism. He's still insanely raw and could have used more college experience IMHO. Dude is constantly lost on defensive rotations and had pretty limited footwork.

Plumlee is a senior, Olynyk is a junior and Len is a soph. I think you could expect the first two to be more game-ready in terms of not getting completely lost out there. Len is probably closer to Meyers in terms of rawness, but his physical stature would really help defense in the paint.

Actually Meyers was a sophmore. He saw little action as a freshman so he was easy to overlook his first year.

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[MARIS61]

Trade up or trade a package, but we don't have room for anyone not ready to compete at this level NOW.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Trade up or trade a package, but we don't have room for anyone not ready to compete at this level NOW.

I am not sure that is realistic. Most drafts these days are about the future. This year in particular. With a 15 man roster you have room for 3 young players to develop for the future. We can't expect a Lillard every year. I am not sure there is one in the whole draft.

 

[Mediocre Man]

We could still lose it, but the odds are insane

Trade it

 

[Wizard Mentor]

We could still lose it, but the odds are insane

Trade it

We're locked into the lotto. The chances we win and draft Noel about as high - between slim and none.

 

[Run BJM]

I don't think trading the pick would yield much. This draft is dog shit and, even worse, there seems to be a drop off in talent right around pick 10 or 11. I think if Muhammed, Gobert, Porter, or any of the other top 10 talent kinda guys slip you have to take them regardless of position. If not then you're looking at Len, Michael Carter-Williams, Plumlee, Olynyk...pretty depressing stuff.

MCW could be a nice fit next to Lillard if he pans out. Problem is he seems like a late first or second round talent in most drafts. Olynyk isn't what you guys need but seems like the BPA IMO. But I really don't like Len. Plumlee is alright but sometimes hes unimpressive too. Could be a nice rotation guy I suppose. Glenn Robinson has a chance to go somewhere late lotto as a project pick, but I really haven't seen any kind of skill from him at all at Michigan that makes me feel good about him. Again, in any other draft he'd be lucky to go first round.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Michael Carter-Williams is one of the guys I would stay away from at all costs (in the lottery). An alarm goes off in my head any time I think about it.

I couldn't post in the "Your guys" thread because I don't have any guys. This draft doesn't excite me in any way, we'll just have to get extremely lucky.

 

[BengalDuck]

McAdoo, please

 

[Reep]

Gobert is somewhat intriguing because of the French Connection and his length. Too much of a project though.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I don't think trading the pick would yield much. This draft is dog shit and, even worse, there seems to be a drop off in talent right around pick 10 or 11. I think if Muhammed, Gobert, Porter, or any of the other top 10 talent kinda guys slip you have to take them regardless of position. If not then you're looking at Len, Michael Carter-Williams, Plumlee, Olynyk...pretty depressing stuff.

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You like Gobert (As I do) but you say there is a drop off after 11? Gobert is not even projected to go that high in the mocks I have seen. so that should add up to at least 12 decent picks.

I don't think this draft is dog shit as you say. I just think it is full of young players who need a few years to develop. And it lacks "can't miss Players" at the top. . But at 12 we were never going to get a super star so it does not effect us. There will be decent players available at 12. Not sure we will pick the right person, but the 11-12th pick this year will be as good as last year's 11-12th. (And probably next years)

 

[WillG]

I couldn't post in the "Your guys" thread because I don't have any guys. This draft doesn't excite me in any way, we'll just have to get extremely lucky.

I fully agree with this and hope we either give the pick to CHA or package it in a trade.

 

[THE HCP]

Said before....... wouldn't want the # 1 pick THIS year. Also, it looks like a crap shoot from 5-12......... all about the same level of talent. Weird year.

 

[handiman]

Also, it looks like a crap shoot from 5-12......... all about the same level of talent. Weird year.

Doesn't that make our #12 (likely) pick much more valuable than most years? Acquiring it is a cheap way to move up to #5 level talent but at a lower pay scale. High reward, low risk, easy to justify to fans and minimal repercussions if it doesn't pan out.