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I get that he was probably a decent pick at 39, and if he gives 15mpg, 6 fouls and good D then he's definitely useful as a 8th-9th man. And good use of a 2nd pick if that is the case.

However, I'm a bit confused by people saying he'd be a good candidate to start. How far off am I if what I've read seems portray him to me as a poor man's 2004-vintage Joel Przybilla?
 
BrianFromWA said:
I get that he was probably a decent pick at 39, and if he gives 15mpg, 6 fouls and good D then he's definitely useful as a 8th-9th man. And good use of a 2nd pick if that is the case.
However, I'm a bit confused by people saying he'd be a good candidate to start.
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That isn't a compliment to Withey, it's a sadly accurate comment on the state of our roster.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Whitey was a good pick where he was picked. I certainly would have rather dealt that pick plus a player for Koufos like the Grizz did
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Even a player that NoVoodoo claims could start at PF for most teams?
Fun fact (I think) we drafted Darrell Arthur, the player in question.
 
Whitey won't be happy in a city like Portland.
 
jlprk said:
Whitey won't be happy in a city like Portland.
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Your right--Portland isn’t a great city to live in if you’re a young, European-American male with a lot of money.
 
Whithey is NOTHING like Joel Pryzbilla.
Whithey is much Longer than Pryzbilla.
Pryzbilla is tough as nails, Whithey is tough as tissue paper.

He does not offensive rebound AT ALL.

I'm happy with the pickup, but he's soft and limited. I'm interested to see what the coaching staff can do with him.
 
I thought I read one report that said he came along quite a bit in the last year or so. This implied that he is still growing as a player. Now that he is out and has a potential career, who knows what he could do. I'm sure he won't ever be as tough as Joel, but maybe he can develop some post moves at some point.

Supposedly he is a reformed volleyball player? This would explain how he can block so well without fouling. But, I sure would like to see him play volleyball. 7'1" at the net? wow!
 
BrianFromWA said:
I get that he was probably a decent pick at 39, and if he gives 15mpg, 6 fouls and good D then he's definitely useful as a 8th-9th man. And good use of a 2nd pick if that is the case.

However, I'm a bit confused by people saying he'd be a good candidate to start. How far off am I if what I've read seems portray him to me as a poor man's 2004-vintage Joel Przybilla?
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one of the things he is best known for is playing tough defense without fouling. If you watch how he defends, he is very vertical and great at last second smacking of the ball with his super long arms. his timing with swatting and jumping is really the crux of why he was drafted at all.

Also, nothing like Przybilla. Much more athletic, at least vertically, but laterally he can't respond. His defense is completely with jumping and timing, not at all with his body or muscling his spot.
 
I don't care if he can shoot a jump shot. If he can move around the basket, play defense, and rebound that's all we need. He's going to need to improve his lower body strength. He does look more athletic and fluid, and better offensively, than Przybilla.
 
If we are lucky and he does improve a lot, I see him developing much more in the mold (not nearly as good) of Noah. If you are interested to see how his skills can work, but I don't think he has that super tenacity that Noah has, nor has he figured out how to use a slight build to hold off a hefty man.
 
BBert said:
I don't care if he can shoot a jump shot. If he can move around the basket, play defense, and rebound that's all we need. He's going to need to improve his lower body strength. He does look more athletic and fluid, and better offensively, than Przybilla.
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When I say jump shot, I'm talking about being able to put it in from 5 feet away. That's kind of important to keep his man somewhat honest. Also, his defensive rebounding is very good, but his offensive rebounding is terrible. It's weird to see one so good and the other so bad.
 
Watching tape he reminds me a lot of Theo Ratliff. A one trick pony (help defense and shot blocking), but a very useful trick on our team. Not terribly strong, not a scorer, not a great offensive rebounder. I couldn't see much evidence of him setting picks.

Przybilla isn't a great comparson, IMO. He wasn't really an elite shot blocker. He was strong, rugged and a scrappy boarder who set good picks.

Withey's size and particular talent make him the type of guy who makes a decade-long career in the NBA on benches. Coach can throw him out there to stem the bleeding if a team is getting dunked on too much, but you don't really want him starting. Nice pickup at #39.
 
blazerboy30 said:
I like the pick. I'm not blown away, but it is interesting.
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Very, he's like the exact opposite of Meyers Leonard. No offensive skills, lacks strength, but has good awareness and shock blocking ability. Should make for a great practice duo.
 
BBert said:
I don't care if he can shoot a jump shot. If he can move around the basket, play defense, and rebound that's all we need. He's going to need to improve his lower body strength. He does look more athletic and fluid, and better offensively, than Przybilla.
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yep

I like his ability to move his feet, very fluid. Looks like the only O he hasis dunk and a roll to the hoop dunk, PERFECT! I dont think we need a streach 5..
 
Withey is a very solid center, he's smart, tough, plays very good defense, he is a true role player - does many of the little things that help you win games. I haven't checked but I think he has a solid FT%, he's not a liability in any way. We probably need another Big but Withey is a rotation player for any team in the league.
 
71% freethrow
Not bad for a new center. And actually speaks well for him to be able to learn a little 6-8 foot shot which would help out flow of the offense even if he doesnt use it much.
 
Doesn't matter if it can or not....Rice will
 
mook said:
Watching tape he reminds me a lot of Theo Ratliff. A one trick pony (help defense and shot blocking), but a very useful trick on our team. Not terribly strong, not a scorer, not a great offensive rebounder. I couldn't see much evidence of him setting picks.

Przybilla isn't a great comparson, IMO. He wasn't really an elite shot blocker. He was strong, rugged and a scrappy boarder who set good picks.

Withey's size and particular talent make him the type of guy who makes a decade-long career in the NBA on benches. Coach can throw him out there to stem the bleeding if a team is getting dunked on too much, but you don't really want him starting. Nice pickup at #39.
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Joel was an elite shot blocker back in his younger years, from 05-07 his block% was above 7%. To put that into perspective, the all time career leader in that stat is Shawn bradley at 7.8, #2 is Theo Ratliff at 7.19%. He also had one of the top rebounding % in the league for many years.....very under-rated center.
 
The Blazers were ecstatic about landing Kansas 7-footer Jeff Withey in the second round of the draft. One team source labeled Withey a “steal,” revealing that the Blazers already have turned down two trade offers since draft night for the agile, shot-blocking specialist who is coveted by NBA analytics gurus.
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--Freeman
 
BBert said:
I don't care if he can shoot a jump shot. If he can move around the basket, play defense, and rebound that's all we need. He's going to need to improve his lower body strength. He does look more athletic and fluid, and better offensively, than Przybilla.
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one of Joel's greatest liabilities was his hands of stone. I haven't seen JW play, but if he can catch a pass that hits him in the hands he'll be better offensively then Przybilla. But at just 222 pounds, dude needs to get hooked up with nutritionist/trainers pronto. He's basically got LA's size/length minus 25 pounds

STOMP
 
KU has an excellent weight program and they already tried. His body can't be improved much. I hope he's not another Josh McRoberts, who had a superior Duke attitude when with us.
 
B: Portland Trailblazers: Drafted CJ McCollum. It didn’t work out so well for me when I bashed the Blazers for drafting a small college guard last year, so I’m not going to go there again. I like this pick. My concerns with Lillard were that they planned to plug him right in at PG. McCollum comes into a different situation. The backcourt is set now and McCollum can back up both positions, which is where he’ll fit best. He should excel as a combo. I love that they got Withey in round 2. He’s a better prospect than Meyers Leonard who they got in round 1 last year. He should help immediately with inside defense
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Ouch.
 
Meyers and Withey are opposites. And they both have significant strengths and weaknesses. Maybe Withey is more NBA ready, but Meyers has a higher ceiling IMO.

The Blazers were ecstatic about landing Kansas 7-footer Jeff Withey in the second round of the draft. One team source labeled Withey a “steal,” revealing that the Blazers already have turned down two trade offers since draft night for the agile, shot-blocking specialist who is coveted by NBA analytics gurus.
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Money Quote.
 
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