Welcome to a new era.....

[Rick2583]

I'm hoping with the new commissioner that he makes some changes for the better.

#1 ENOUGH using the ASG to decide what league the WS starts in.

#2 Lift the ban on Pete Rose. I think 25+ years is enough.

Feel free to add your own wish list.

 

[yankeesince59]

...he's already touched on both of those topics...and I wouldn't look for any changes any time soon.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

I'm hoping with the new commissioner that he makes some changes for the better.

#1 ENOUGH using the ASG to decide what league the WS starts in.

#2 Lift the ban on Pete Rose. I think 25+ years is enough.

Feel free to add your own wish list.

and let Shoeless Joe Jackson in with Rose.....

Let the Team either NL or AL with the best Record in MLB decide which League gains Home Field advantage in the Series. Regardless of whether the Team with the best record is eliminated or not, in the WC or AL-NLDS and AL-NLCS.

Plus-Let's See the Brewhahas, beer tested for psychedelic drugs...!

 

[Rick2583]

...he's already touched on both of those topics...and I wouldn't look for any changes any time soon.

They're BOTH long over due.

 

[yankeesince59]

...Rose agreed to a "LIFETIME BAN"...and IMO, that's what it should be. HOF induction posthumously only...that is his penalty for breaking a rule that is posted in every clubhouse in the game. It's also a penalty for lying to his team mates who backed him for so long and were made to look foolish...and also lying to the press and to the fans for years and years. The only reason he may have any remorse is only because he got caught.


...I don't care what Rose, Bonds, Clemens, et al did before their transgressions.

 

[blgridesagain]

Rose yes.

DH in the NL yes....otherwise, during interleague play INCLUDING the WS both teams operate under the same conditions and format they use during their regular season league games. The AL uses it's DH and the NL has it's pitcher in the lineup.

If MLB and/or either league wants to showcase and display to all baseball fans how and why they feel having a DH or NOT is more exciting or better "for baseball"....let's us see games where BOTH teams use THEIR preferred systems. Enough of the NL's charade.
Give it a 3-5 year test period....then have a vote amoung MLB ownership.

Yes - best record for home field in WS ....if both teams in the WS have the same record, then head to head if applicable...otherwise, better division record.
If not, I would settle on a rotating yearly basis.

One visit per inning for a catcher to the pitcher.
Batters can step out of the batter's box only once per at bat.
No more than 2 pitching changes per inning.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

...Rose agreed to a "LIFETIME BAN"...and IMO, that's what it should be. HOF induction posthumously only...that is his penalty for breaking a rule that is posted in every clubhouse in the game. It's also a penalty for lying to his team mates who backed him for so long and were made to look foolish...and also lying to the press and to the fans for years and years. The only reason he may have any remorse is only because he got caught.


...I don't care what Rose, Bonds, Clemens, et al did before their transgressions.

Honestly I don't have a problem with a true Infinity Ban on Rose.....as well as lying for years about as much.....

The one thing I see with Rose, during an Interview last summer, was he showed ZERO remorse, for his transgressions....and for that, sure ban him forever.

59, just curious, what's your take on Shoeless Joe, there is no doubt he was aware of the Scandal, yet He had the best offensive and defensive pctg of stats in the 1919 Series. Some say he indeed put his X on the contract, (as he was illiterate and could not write his name). I've heard varying different stories on: Some say he took no money, some say he did, but did not buy into the actual Fraud. Yet, if He knew about it and said nothing until court. Then he too should be kept out for eternity too....I've got mixed feelings on Shoeless Joe, moreso than Rose.

PS: Thanks for setting me back on track with Rose, you are more than right, he is in the same ship of fools as Bonds, Clemens, Palmeiro, McGwire, Sosa and a few others as well, liars all of them....!

 

[Mattingly23NY]

Sidenote: Besides I still like the idea or fact, that Tyrus Cobb, the Georgia Peach is still the all time Hits Record King....

I had a chance 30 years ago, to buy several Of Ty's Endorsed Personal Checks, with his nice Signature on them.....The Seller; someone from Georgia, had approximately 100 of those Cobb Checks. and were validated (easily as legit signatures)....NTM the asking price was high but reasonable for a Cobb Item. Would of been worth a helluva lot more had they of been on old baseballs, etc....!

 

[totus44]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_banned_from_Major_League_Baseball

Bans can be reversed....

 

[Hammerojustice]

I'm hoping with the new commissioner that he makes some changes for the better.

#1 ENOUGH using the ASG to decide what league the WS starts in.

#2 Lift the ban on Pete Rose. I think 25+ years is enough.

Feel free to add your own wish list.

and let Shoeless Joe Jackson in with Rose.....

Let the Team either NL or AL with the best Record in MLB decide which League gains Home Field advantage in the Series. Regardless of whether the Team with the best record is eliminated or not, in the WC or AL-NLDS and AL-NLCS.

Plus-Let's See the Brewhahas, beer tested for psychedelic drugs...!

They're BOTH long over due.

I agree completely regarding both the ASG & Rose & Shoeless Joe needing to be in the HOF.... It isn't a HOF without the true hits king in....

I'd also like to see some basic level of requirements based on stats to gain entry to the HOF... Don't know what or how it would work, but something....

 

[yankeesince59]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_banned_from_Major_League_Baseball

Bans can be reversed....

...and none of those except Rose was a lifetime ban.

...again, ....."I don't care what Rose, Bonds, Clemens, et al did before their transgressions." ...I'm sure Bernie Madoff was a legit investor once upon a time.
...some people also use the argument that Bonds and Clemens were HOFers before they started roiding, and sorry, but that doesn't wash, because if you only consider their first 12 years or so, then Don Mattingly also belongs in the HOF.

 

[Rick2583]

I disagree on Mattingly Ron, I loved the guy but he really only had what 6 good years? And before anyone says it, no I don't think Puckett should be in there either.

 

[yankeesince59]

59, just curious, what's your take on Shoeless Joe, there is no doubt he was aware of the Scandal, yet He had the best offensive and defensive pctg of stats in the 1919 Series. Some say he indeed put his X on the contract, (as he was illiterate and could not write his name). I've heard varying different stories on: Some say he took no money, some say he did, but did not buy into the actual Fraud. Yet, if He knew about it and said nothing until court. Then he too should be kept out for eternity too....I've got mixed feelings on Shoeless Joe, moreso than Rose.

...matts, the thing with Joe Jackson is that there was no evidence that he took any money...there was also no evidence that he did anything to help throw the World Series. Even the others who were part of the fix admitted that Joe was not part of it and did not attend any of the "meetings".

...in the 1919 WS, Joe was 12 for 32 with only 2 strike outs....his stats for that WS are .375 .394 .563 .956

...Commissioner Landis was an over-officious prick and though acquitted by his peers in a court of law, Landis still suspended Joe for life.



Bleacher Report did a good article on the scandal awhile back.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...still-awaits-justice-50-years-after-his-death

...there's also a poll in which nearly 500 people were asked "
"Who is more deserving of the Hall of Fame?
...1. Pete Rose?
...2. Joe Jackson

The results; 87.1 for Joe and 12.9 for Pete.

 

[yankeesince59]

I disagree on Mattingly Ron, I loved the guy but he really only had what 6 good years? And before anyone says it, no I don't think Puckett should be in there either.

...lol...well, in a way, that actually proves my point, which is that you can't simply pick and choose a part of a player's career. HOF voting should be based on a player's "whole body of work".
...as far as Mattingly, I only used him as an example. And actually, he had 6 GREAT years, the rest were not too shabby either. For a 4 year stretch he was the best player in the game and at the moment I can't think of any other players that can lay claim the same thing that are not in the HOF.

 

[blgridesagain]

I realize Mattingly didn't accumulate huge numbers over a very long career but I have to say...when I think of Mattingy as a player I have no problem with having the words "Hall of Famer" attached to him, none whatsoever. lol

He averaged (162g) 22 HRs 100 RBI. .307 BA .830 OPS and WAS indeed generally thought of as one of the very best players in the league/baseball for a 4-5 year period.

Absolutely one of the very best defensive players at his position.

And just for good measure, because some of the naysayers point to him and "his" Yankees never winning a WS, he batted .417 with an OPS of 1.148 in his only post season series.


I would prefer to have a player like Mattingly in the HOF who at least WAS recognized for a period as being one of the best players in baseball than some other players who compiled bigger career stats but weren't on the same level as Mattingly's peak period.

Any thoughts? Comments? lol


No need, I feel comfortable with my opinion on this matter.....


Or, ...Don Mattingly, IMO, is every bit a HOFer as Fisk, Dawson,Puckett,Blyleven,Perez,Mazeroski... (ect)...are.

 

[yankeesince59]

...quickest bat I ever saw;

 

[Rick2583]

...quickest bat I ever saw;

http://m.mlb.com/video/v37012149/mattinglys-glove-bat-earned-spot-in-monument-park/?query=donnie baseball

Sounds like a great entrance song for Betances.

 

[blgridesagain]

Donnie could really get on top of a high fastball.

I forgot to include another item on Mattingly's resume:
During his playing career, he set or tied TWO different season HR records-
Most grand slam HRs in a season and most consecutive games hitting at least one HR.


Yeah sure, those other guys I mentioned are more deserving of HOF honors than Donnie Baseball.....yeah, sure. lol

Lmao at the voters.

 

[yankeesince59]

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^^^ IF Betances proves he can pitch well enough out of the closer's role, I like these 3 songs ...I'm sure there will be more ideas from others.
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[Rick2583]

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^^^ IF Betances proves he can pitch well enough out of the closer's role, I like these 3 songs ...I'm sure there will be more ideas from others.
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Definately #1, Okay with #3, not feeling #2

 

[Mattingly23NY]

...matts, the thing with Joe Jackson is that there was no evidence that he took any money...there was also no evidence that he did anything to help throw the World Series. Even the others who were part of the fix admitted that Joe was not part of it and did not attend any of the "meetings".

...in the 1919 WS, Joe was 12 for 32 with only 2 strike outs....his stats for that WS are .375 .394 .563 .956

...Commissioner Landis was an over-officious prick and though acquitted by his peers in a court of law, Landis still suspended Joe for life.



Bleacher Report did a good article on the scandal awhile back.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...still-awaits-justice-50-years-after-his-death

...there's also a poll in which nearly 500 people were asked "
"Who is more deserving of the Hall of Fame?
...1. Pete Rose?
...2. Joe Jackson

The results; 87.1 for Joe and 12.9 for Pete.

Thank You 59, your insight is indeed much like my own on Shoeless Joe. I have believed in the take, Joe never took a dime of that money. And as you well pointed out with stat/details, it to me is obvious Joe was NOT going to throw a WS. In fact it appears with his performance, he did everything within his power to ensure a Black Sox WS Championship....

I was un-aware of the poll data on Shoeless Joe vs Rose. I find that very interesting, and gotta' agree. Many people came to Jackson's aid, to defend him as clean during that fatal Scandal. Whereas no one I recall tried so much to even try to vindicate or come to Rose's lying defense....and right in the Clubhouse and Dugout too, where he made his bets many times....that's utterly sick indeed.

Great Article too on Joe, Thanx again....!

 

[Mattingly23NY]

...quickest bat I ever saw;

http://m.mlb.com/video/v37012149/mattinglys-glove-bat-earned-spot-in-monument-park/?query=donnie baseball

Thanks for the video, believe it or not, I have not see the entirety of this clip prior...

I loved that lightning quick sweet swing of Donnie's. His ability to wait a mili second longer to swing. His ability to hit about any pitch, where it was pitched, and turn on the inside pitch to park it. Or-his innate ability to hit to the opposite field, as well as Carew.

NTM-those 9 Gold Gloves, Donnie was as good IMO at 1st base defensively as anyone I've seen play the position. So often reserved for Big Guys, ie, Skowron, Howard, et al.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

Donnie could really get on top of a high fastball.

I forgot to include another item on Mattingly's resume:
During his playing career, he set or tied TWO different season HR records-
Most grand slam HRs in a season and most consecutive games hitting at least one HR.


Yeah sure, those other guys I mentioned are more deserving of HOF honors than Donnie Baseball.....yeah, sure. lol

Lmao at the voters.

I enjoyed the Summer of 87 more than any other year, well almost, as far as Donnies Career went anyway. For that great incredible HR, and Grand Slam record.....now that was a sweet 8 games....!

I clearly recall the debate on the BSPN board, on whether Donnie BB should be in the HOF. I recall being pretty much the only one to debate for #23 to be IN the HOF.

However with time, and those enlightening other side debates, such opened my eyes. Sure there are last count I took 28 other Infielders (not even counting the numerous outfielders), who had lesser Offensive Production than Donnie who are in the HOF......Sure I'd love to see #23 in the Hall, but it honestly would not be warranted. The HOF is pretty much for 1% of MLB elite players, WITH Longevity of years beyond Don's, as well as the stats that come with playing 2 decades rather than 12-14 years.

The only HOF I can say who played in what 10 years only who BELONGS and IS IN the Hof, would be Koufax, no doubt. Talk Dominance, that'd be Sandy.

 

[Rick2583]

...matts, the thing with Joe Jackson is that there was no evidence that he took any money...there was also no evidence that he did anything to help throw the World Series. Even the others who were part of the fix admitted that Joe was not part of it and did not attend any of the "meetings".

...in the 1919 WS, Joe was 12 for 32 with only 2 strike outs....his stats for that WS are .375 .394 .563 .956

...Commissioner Landis was an over-officious prick and though acquitted by his peers in a court of law, Landis still suspended Joe for life.



Bleacher Report did a good article on the scandal awhile back.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...still-awaits-justice-50-years-after-his-death

...there's also a poll in which nearly 500 people were asked "
"Who is more deserving of the Hall of Fame?
...1. Pete Rose?
...2. Joe Jackson

The results; 87.1 for Joe and 12.9 for Pete.

From everything I've seen & read over the years there is no doubt in my mind that Jackson should have been allowed back in the game a long time ago & also to have his rightful place in the HOF. His induction is long over due & should be high on the list of things to accomplish for the new commishioner.

Sadly when Jackson died in 1951 he had no children. He & his wife raised two nephews who are now long gone. So I'm afraid there is no immediate family left to carry on his fight. Its up to MLB to FINALLY do the right thing & induct Shoeless Joe Jackson to the major league baseball Hall of fame.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

"Say it isn't so Joe", as sad and as most MLB Metaphors.....

Back to the original OP, New Era, and I thought you were talking about New Era baseball caps....!