Exclusive Welcome Zach Collins! (1 Viewer)

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

We didn't draft Babbitt. MIN did. We traded Martell Webster for him, and given that MIN sought compensation for us trading them damaged goods, it's not like they got the best of us on that trade.

BNM

Well, by the same token, we didn't technically draft Collins, either.

But really, we knew when both players were picked they were coming to Portland.

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

Yes, welcome ZC!! Glad to get such a good player for our team! Think 10+ yrs!!!

I think fair comparisons are Pau Gasol, Kevin McHale, Bill Laimbeer in potential/style. Height will be our/his friend! Not sure yet that he'll ever reach that (High) level of play, but I am confident that he'll be solid contributor. He's everything opposite of Meyers (Meyers needs a new team IMO).

I think ZC ideal weight is about 250-260. Body sculpting somewhere between Leonard and Aldridge in upper body. He'll get there as he grows up.

I'm excited by adding another player with obvious natural height AND athleticism and skill. And mostly that this kid is tough. Reminds me a little of Laimbeer. It'll be very complimentary next to Nurk. At the very least.....he's a rock-solid PF/C on the second unit. There is no way, if he stays healthy, that he isn't a contributing post player on this team for year. But, I'd like to see him earn his way onto the starting lineup ASAP. His overall skills will help our team big time.

 

[Driew]

Yaaasss

Is there any sound?

 

[lawai'a]

Is there any sound?

I clicked play and a sound icon appeared as I scrolled right hand corner of video

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Yaaasss

this guy is crazy; I'm starting to like him!

 

[Driew]

I clicked play and a sound icon appeared as I scrolled right hand corner of video

Yeah I got sound on my computer...my phone not so much lol thanks!

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Is Raef LaFrentz a good comparison for Zack Collins?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Is Raef LaFrentz a good comparison for Zack Collins?

McCollum has amassed a scouting report on Collins and came away impressed.

“Collins is polished and very skilled,’’ McCollum said. “I hear comparisons to (Orlando center Nik) Vucevic. I think he has a big ceiling.’’

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/be...azers-rookies-is-talent-and-some-grit.316426/

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Is Raef LaFrentz a good comparison for Zack Collins?

The Denver version. IMO he's similar to Myler Turner - except Collins has much quicker feet laterally.

This is why I think Collins will have no problem being a PF full-time in this new era of spread offense.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

McCollum has amassed a scouting report on Collins and came away impressed.

“Collins is polished and very skilled,’’ McCollum said. “I hear comparisons to (Orlando center Nik) Vucevic. I think he has a big ceiling.’’

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/be...azers-rookies-is-talent-and-some-grit.316426/

Bad comp -- the foot speed alone makes Collins a much different player.

 

[andalusian]

Isn't that what they said about Meyers when he got drafted?

The skill-set is valuable even if another player did not pan out. It is a game of statistics - if they hit it with ZC - that gives them 50% success rate for such a unicorn - which is an amazing achievement.

The point is - just because it did not work before - does not mean that you stop looking for it.

 

[Scalma]

What idiot compared him to vucevic?

 

[TBpup]

What idiot compared him to vucevic?

I think it was CJ?

 

[Scalma]

I think it was CJ?

He said that's what he heard. I don't think that was his own comp, because I don't think he's that stupid.

Vucevic is strictly a center who can barely defend his position. Has at least 30 pounds on Collins. Can't move laterally. Doesn't shoot threes. Fairly skilled in the post, can knock down a mid range jumper, is a good rebounder, and that's pretty much it. Collins is built like a young Aldridge and is much more agile and explosive, with a wider skill set, and projects to be a much better defender.

 

[RipCityRyan]

I honestly know nothing about this kid but I've heard mixed reviews. I'll let his play speak for itself

 

[riverman]

I honestly know nothing about this kid but I've heard mixed reviews. I'll let his play speak for itself

non of us know how he'll look against NBA caliber 5s....see how his rookie season pans out...I watched about half a dozen Gonzaga games but 7ft guys who can shoot own college ball usually..he's got a great motor and can guard 3 positions on the court....great lateral speed and good handles...needs to bulk up his lower core strength or he'll get tossed around like a smelly fish

 

[Scalma]

100% confidence.

My favorite quote "I never wanted to be a guy that faded away from the basket once he realized he could shoot."

 

[RipCityRyan]

non of us know how he'll look against NBA caliber 5s....see how his rookie season pans out...I watched about half a dozen Gonzaga games but 7ft guys who can shoot own college ball usually..he's got a great motor and can guard 3 positions on the court....great lateral speed and good handles...needs to bulk up his lower core strength or he'll get tossed around like a smelly fish

Shit, sounds like he's gonna be fun to watch. Needing to bulk up is a minor thing too, thats the case with lots of bigs. As long as he works as hard as I'm hearing he works, he should be a good fit!

 

[illmatic99]

Any chance he turns into our Harry Barnes while Swanigan becomes our Draymond?

 

[riverman]

Any chance he turns into our Harry Barnes while Swanigan becomes our Draymond?

I think Swanigan becomes our young Charles Barkley

 

[Sarni]

Any chance he turns into our Harry Barnes while Swanigan becomes our Draymond?

Considering Barnes is a small forward and Collins is a power forward/center, no. I am hoping he is our Porzingis while Swanigan is our Millsap.

Or both just become Myles Turners. Myles Turner is where the magic is.

 

[Scalma]

We turned mason plumlee into nurkic and Zach Collins...I mean wow.

 

[Sarni]

We turned mason plumlee into nurkic and Zach Collins...I mean wow.

Not fully true, we also threw in our #15 pick into the mix. Without Nurkic we'd have probably been #10 ourselves as I don't think that team was making playoffs. Still, Nurkic is miles better for our team than Mason was.

 

[Scalma]

Not fully true, we also threw in our #15 pick into the mix. Without Nurkic we'd have probably been #10 ourselves as I don't think that team was making playoffs. Still, Nurkic is miles better for our team than Mason was.

We don't get Collins without the Denver pick. The rest is just theoretical.

 

[Sarni]

We don't get Collins without the Denver pick. The rest is just theoretical.

Yep, probably, but we still had to add our pick so in principle it's Plumlee plus Jackson (or whoever we were going to grab at 15) for Nurkic and Collins.

 

[Trackjack]

Watching Collins hook shot that is really unstoppable just where he release the ball he get full extension on his release. Most player does a jump hook without full extension.

 

[illmatic99]

Considering Barnes is a small forward and Collins is a power forward/center, no. I am hoping he is our Porzingis while Swanigan is our Millsap.

Or both just become Myles Turners. Myles Turner is where the magic is.

Yall misssing my point. I meant a later pick turning to a game changing star, while our lotto pick is meh

 

[TBpup]

My favorite quote "I never wanted to be a guy that faded away from the basket once he realized he could shoot."

The anti-Marsha.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Yep, I can play with Nurk and Leonard can save me a seat on the bench!