Well PRITCHARD... theres your 4 games... WE NEED A TRADE... YA THINK?

[BrianFromWA]

They can match. But would Joel want to stay here as a backup or be a starter somewhere else?

I'll have to verify this, but it's my understanding that if Joel opts out of his contract/utilizes his ETO, he is an unrestricted free agent, and can sign with anyone he wants for any amount and there's nothing we can do about it (Coon FAQ #36). We don't have any right to "match" the deal. Additionally, since we're over the salary cap, we're unable to offer more than the MLE.

We could potentially sign-and-trade to get Joel higher raises or more years, but

 

[Kaydow]

They can match. But would Joel want to stay here as a backup or be a starter somewhere else?

So if he opts out he IS unrestricted? That was my point of matching salary (if he was a restricted FA)

Besides, what PLAYOFF contending team is going to 1) Pay Joel more money than he can make in Portland and 2) Promise him a starting job??

I'm assuming Joel wants to win. And I'm also assuming that Joel (like all of us) isn't going to assume he's going to be spending the rest of his career backing up Oden (not if GO can't stay healthy)

 

[Kaydow]

I'll have to verify this, but it's my understanding that if Joel opts out of his contract/utilizes his ETO, he is an unrestricted free agent, and can sign with anyone he wants for any amount and there's nothing we can do about it (Coon FAQ #36). We don't have any right to "match" the deal. Additionally, since we're over the salary cap, we're unable to offer more than the MLE.

We could potentially sign-and-trade to get Joel higher raises or more years, but

We should have extended him last summer then - hindsight 20/20 I guess. Who knew GO would be 21 and done?

Oh man, this is no good if you're right.

 

[Minstrel]

I'll have to verify this, but it's my understanding that if Joel opts out of his contract/utilizes his ETO, he is an unrestricted free agent, and can sign with anyone he wants for any amount and there's nothing we can do about it (Coon FAQ #36). We don't have any right to "match" the deal. Additionally, since we're over the salary cap, we're unable to offer more than the MLE.

Why won't Portland have his Bird rights? He'll be coming off a contract of 3+ years in length.

By "match," I think B-Roy meant that Portland can offer as much as anyone else due to Bird rights...not that he'll be a restricted free agent and forced to remain with the team if the team matches.

 

[barfo]

I'll have to verify this, but it's my understanding that if Joel opts out of his contract/utilizes his ETO, he is an unrestricted free agent, and can sign with anyone he wants for any amount and there's nothing we can do about it (Coon FAQ #36). We don't have any right to "match" the deal. Additionally, since we're over the salary cap, we're unable to offer more than the MLE.

I don't think that last part is right. The Bird exception should still apply, so we would have the right to offer him more than anyone else.

Edit: Eh, Minstrel beat me to it. Darn that Minstrel!

barfo

 

[oldguy]

this is why i am stating to hate this board. CP3.... really? no dude. guys like butler, gay, wallace, maybe even average players like mike miller it doesnt matter. JUST A LEGIT SF.

Teams taht are gonna lose players for nothing. DING DING.. RUDY GAY on MEMPHIS. Hes gone this summer. Teams want to get something so they dont get nothing. Gay would be great for us. A GUY WHO CAN SCORE AT THE 3. WHAT WE BADLY NEED!

Here is what you said:

...

YOU DONT NEED A SUPERSTAR TO GET A SUPERSTAR/SOLID PLAYER.

YOU NEED EXPIRING CONTRACTS and young guys with upside..... shhhh we have them (outlaw and blake and lots of youth like bayless or batum) TEAMS WANT THAT. HAVE YOU SEEN MEMPHIS, CHARLOTTE, INDIANA GAMES THIS YEAR????? N O B O D Y - T H E R E.
...

If you don't need a superstar to get a superstar, and all you need is expiring contracts and young guys, I vote for getting a super star.

There are only a few superstars out there. Of those few, I'd prefer CP3. I proposed expiring contracts and a young guy with upside. What am I missing? I thought you said that's what it takes. Of course, if your full of crap, then I guess we won't be getting CP3. I'll go out on a limb and say we won't be getting any other superstars for our scrubs, either.

The fact is, you can't come up with a trade that makes sense.

Boy, I sure hope you don't come to hate this board so much that you shut the hell up. (I won't hold my breath.)

Go Blazers

 

[B-Roy]

Why won't Portland have his Bird rights? He'll be coming off a contract of 3+ years in length.

By "match," I think B-Roy meant that Portland can offer as much as anyone else due to Bird rights...not that he'll be a restricted free agent and forced to remain with the team if the team matches.

Yes.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

FOR THE 1000th TIME...... PLEASE READ AND THINK ABOUT WHAT IM WRITING.....

Sure, okay. Let's try.

THE ONLY THNG WE NEED IS A GM WHO CAN PULL IT OFF. SADLY KP ISNT THAT GM. HE HAS NO GUTS AND IS A PURE PUSSY. ALL HE CAN DO IS LIVE OFF THE ROY AND LA PICKS. EVERYTHING ELSE BLEW UP IN HIS ARROGANT FACE.

Okay never mind. Use your inside voice and I'll consider it.

 

[BrianFromWA]

My bad. Brain-farted there thinking about non-restricted vs. Bird Rights-UFA.

Yes, he can sign with whomever he wants. We can offer anything, but we can't "match" and make him come here if he, say, signs with Minny.

 

[Nikolokolus]

My bad. Brain-farted there thinking about non-restricted vs. Bird Rights-UFA.

Yes, he can sign with whomever he wants. We can offer anything, but we can't "match" and make him come here if he, say, signs with Minny.

Right.

 

[Nikolokolus]

KP can make that deal because KingSpeed says there's always a "Gasol deal" available if you're a good enough GM.

Hey maybe we can trade Blake, Outlaw, Webster, and Victor Claver for Pau Gasol?

 

[BrianFromWA]

Webster's not an expiring contract, and Blake's no Javaris Crittenton.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Hey maybe we can trade Blake, Outlaw, Webster, and Victor Claver for Pau Gasol?

Nah, you need to aim higher - Marc Gasol!

 

[Nikolokolus]

Webster's not an expiring contract, and Blake's no Javaris Crittenton.

Ah you're right. Sub out Blake and insert Patty Mills and I'll bet you could really pique Mitch Kupchak's interest.

 

[Kaydow]

Webster's not an expiring contract, and Blake's no Javaris Crittenton.

What does that even mean?

 

[Nikolokolus]

What does that even mean?

That's a good question. Perhaps Crittenton wishes he had an actual role on a team?