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julius said:
I wonder if this kind of violence is going to become the norm like school/church/mall shootings have become.
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There have been a handful of these types of cases lately.
 
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https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article274498291.html
 
What happened to asking politely? Oh, political correctness! Or coming back when store is open? No! Privileged white cis men should get what they want when they want it.
 
THE HCP said:
Wonder who this guy voted for?
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yeah, but didn't you hear that it was the democrats who created the KKK, and shot lincoln, and wanted slavery? So you lose.
 
Police say man continued date after fatal shooting over $40
Authorities say a Texas man paused his dinner date to fatally shoot an individual who had allegedly posed as a parking attendant and scammed him out of $40


HOUSTON -- A Texas man on a date who paid $40 to park, only to learn inside a Houston burger joint that he was scammed, allegedly went back and fatally shot the man posing as an attendant and then returned for dinner, according to court records.

Erick Aguirre appeared in court Thursday on murder charges in the April 11 death of 46-year-old Elliot Nix. His bond was set at $200,000. His attorney, Brent Mayr, declined to comment.

Aguirre, 29, allegedly told his date “everything was fine” and that he just scared the man after returning to the Rodeo Goat restaurant from the parking lot. They then started walking to a table but left to eat someplace else after Aguirre looked uncomfortable, according to court records.

Aguirre’s date contacted police two days later after police had released photos of the couple, who had been identified by tips to Crime Stoppers.

“She wanted to do the right thing. She wanted to make sure that she came forward and told the police what she knew,” Rick DeToto, the woman’s attorney told KPRC.


Police say Aguirre, 29, and his date had parked their vehicles near the downtown restaurant when Nix approached them, saying it would cost $20 each to park their cars, according to a probable cause affidavit.

Aguirre paid the $40 but was later told by a restaurant employee that Nix didn’t work for the parking lot and had scammed them, police said.

An employee at a nearby smoke shop later told police he saw Aguirre run back to his car, grab a pistol and go after Nix. The employee said both men went out of his view but he heard a gunshot before 8 p.m., then saw Aguirre “nonchalantly walking back to his car with the gun in his hand” before putting the gun back in his car. Aguirre then walked back to the restaurant and go inside with his date, according to the affidavit.

Nix was taken to a hospital, where he later died.

Aguirre, who lives near Corpus Christi, located about 200 miles (320 km) southwest of Houston, was arrested earlier this week. He remained jailed Thursday.


Houston criminal defense attorney Grant Scheiner, who’s not affiliated with the case, said that under state laws related to protection of property, Aguirre’s attorney will likely be able to make an argument that the use of deadly force was justified.

But the circumstances related to this case, including retrieving a weapon when there was no immediate danger and then continuing with one’s dinner after the alleged shooting, will not help Aguirre, Scheiner said.

In 2021, Texas lawmakers approved legislation allowing people to carry handguns without a license, and the background check and training that had gone with it.

“The problem is that guns are just so widely available and there’s a lot of misinterpretation on when you can use deadly force,” Scheiner said. “You have a lot of guns and not very much knowledge.”

Nix’s fatal shooting comes after several high-profile incidents around the U.S. where nonviolent situations — going to a mistaken address, getting into the wrong car or going into a neighbor’s yard to retrieve a basketball — devolved into shootings.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-man-continued-date-after-fatal-shooting-40-98915186
 
Man kills 5 in Texas after family complained about gunfire

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — A Texas man went next door with a rifle and began shooting his neighbors, killing an 8-year-old and four others inside the house, after the family asked him to stop firing rounds in his yard because they were trying to sleep, authorities said Saturday.

San Jacinto County Sheriff Greg Capers told reporters at the scene that authorities were still searching for 39-year-old Francisco Oropeza following the overnight shooting in the town of Cleveland, about 45 miles (72 kilometers) north of Houston. He said Oropeza used an AR-style rifle in the shooting.

“Everyone that was shot was shot from the neck up, almost execution-style,” Capers said during an earlier news conference at the scene.

https://news.yahoo.com/police-5-people-killed-shooting-105415592.html
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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Ok someone help me out here.

Dude drives car into people and it’s the fault of Republican radicalism.

Dude shoots a bunch of people and it’s the fault of the gun.

Why is it that with one instance we are talking about the root cause of the issue and with the other instance we are focused entirely on the tool that was used?
 
The tweets say that the driver was hispanic. I wonder if maybe it wasn't another reason for the incident. It looked like the car was mid-flip when the video started.

Not trying to condone what happened, but it seems a little too easy to assume it's just because people dehumanized Mexicans/Immigrants/Latinos.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Ok someone help me out here.

Dude drives car into people and it’s the fault of Republican radicalism.

Dude shoots a bunch of people and it’s the fault of the gun.

Why is it that with one instance we are talking about the root cause of the issue and with the other instance we are focused entirely on the tool that was used?
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I posted that for the video of what happened, not for the comment.
 
The problem is that so many people WANT to do this to one another, IMO.

That is the problem we need to be focused on addressing. Make no mistake, our leaders don't generally want us to solve that problem. It would make us more difficult to dupe.
 
Phatguysrule said:
The problem is that so many people WANT to do this to one another, IMO.

That is the problem we need to be focused on addressing. Make no mistake, our leaders don't generally want us to solve that problem. It would make us more difficult to dupe.
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But how do we fix that? People seem so angry.
 
Natebishop3 said:
But how do we fix that? People seem so angry.
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People need better options. They need to know that they have backup. They aren't going to be destitute if they lose their job. They aren't going to go bankrupt and lose their house if they become too sick to work for a year.

They need to know that their kids will have an opportunity at a good education. Kids need to know that they'll have the opportunity to do what they want and have some freedom as adults.

People need to feel empowered. Right now people feel like everyone is trying to bend them over a barrel, and many feel like they have no choice but to bend over and take it.

That makes people angry and on edge.

Just my opinion. But people really need better access to education, healthcare, and social reinforcement.
 
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