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Orion Bailey said:
There is no arguement really. I still think its more of how you build around than who you build around.
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How is very important - that shouldn't even be a question. And of course talent is the #1 thing to consider when obtaining players. But there is just far too much evidence against it to say that building around a PF is a good strategy.
Also, on a parallel universe tangent, what if Duncan wasn't drafted by the Spurs? He'd obviously still be great, but I suspect he'd be lucky to have more than 1 or 2 championships. The reason he has so many is because of the "how" surrounding the "who". The best coach of the modern NBA, combined with the best 6th man, and a top rated PG has more to do with Duncan's multitude of championships than anything else.
 
blue9 said:
How is very important - that shouldn't even be a question. And of course talent is the #1 thing to consider when obtaining players. But there is just far too much evidence against it to say that building around a PF is a good strategy.
Also, on a parallel universe tangent, what if Duncan wasn't drafted by the Spurs? He'd obviously still be great, but I suspect he'd be lucky to have more than 1 or 2 championships. The reason he has so many is because of the "how" surrounding the "who". The best coach of the modern NBA, combined with the best 6th man, and a top rated PG has more to do with Duncan's multitude of championships than anything else.
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Couldnt agree more overall. Where is the next Shaq? Thats who we need to get and build around.
 
Eastoff said:
In all seriousness, is there any chance we could get Anthony Davis from an imploding nop?
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If their front office is totally incompetent, yes. Right now, they are in a position where they might be able to add a pretty good piece to play with Davis.
 
I'd build a team around Ben Simmons and I'd play him at PF. Just saying.
 
We're better than our record. We are just missing a key piece. Like I said since the summer, its Dame and a bunch of good role players. To compete we need at least 2 all stars on the team.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
We're better than our record. We are just missing a key piece. Like I said since the summer, its Dame and a bunch of good role players. To compete we need at least 2 all stars on the team.
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This is false, you are only ever as good or as bad as your record.
 
Schilly said:
Thats exactly what it is. Crazy thing is that Bald clown who types words and hasa radio program went from thinking the plan was a joke at best to calling it pure genius.
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yep, and we could be a playoff team according to some
 
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Since the team started 4-2, they've gone 7-18.

And they've gone 10-19 since someone posted a thread stating how much better the team is was than some people thought.
 
Going back to the statistics that Rasta has been so kind to provide; this is really serious, it is really bad. We are supposedly more athletic, why so few steals and forcing so few turnovers? Supposedly Stotts defense is supposed to be conservative and not focus on steals, trading that off for holding the other team to a lower field goal%. But that is not working at all, according to the statistics (and to our own eyes). Then there is the offense; as Rasta points out, why so few assists on a team that hustles and are all willing to share and in an offense that is supposed to be innovative and include all? Has the offense been using all their assets? Why does the team look so terrible when missing one player?
I understand the talent and experience level may not be so great, but should we look this bad?
I personally would consider bringing in an outsider, either as a consultant or as part of the coaching staff; someone with strong credentials, someone willing to speak up and point out what they think is wrong.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Going back to the statistics that Rasta has been so kind to provide; this is really serious, it is really bad. We are supposedly more athletic, why so few steals and forcing so few turnovers? Supposedly Stotts defense is supposed to be conservative and not focus on steals, trading that off for holding the other team to a lower field goal%. But that is not working at all, according to the statistics (and to our own eyes). Then there is the offense; as Rasta points out, why so few assists on a team that hustles and are all willing to share and in an offense that is supposed to be innovative and include all? Has the offense been using all their assets? Why does the team look so terrible when missing one player?
I understand the talent and experience level may not be so great, but should we look this bad?
I personally would consider bringing in an outsider, either as a consultant or as part of the coaching staff; someone with strong credentials, someone willing to speak up and point out what they think is wrong.
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Up until recently we have not looked "that bad" but we really have only 2 guys that can make plays - Lillard and CJ, I think the last couple games make people realize just how key they are - especially Lillard. And our TO's are just awful and are killin us, but I am in for the tank so it is ok wit me
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Going back to the statistics that Rasta has been so kind to provide; this is really serious, it is really bad. We are supposedly more athletic, why so few steals and forcing so few turnovers? Supposedly Stotts defense is supposed to be conservative and not focus on steals, trading that off for holding the other team to a lower field goal%. But that is not working at all, according to the statistics (and to our own eyes). Then there is the offense; as Rasta points out, why so few assists on a team that hustles and are all willing to share and in an offense that is supposed to be innovative and include all? Has the offense been using all their assets? Why does the team look so terrible when missing one player?
I understand the talent and experience level may not be so great, but should we look this bad?
I personally would consider bringing in an outsider, either as a consultant or as part of the coaching staff; someone with strong credentials, someone willing to speak up and point out what they think is wrong.
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Very good questions.
In regards to the bolded question, some people might say "Of course we're going to suck when Dame isn't playing!". But this goes back to last year where we fell off a cliff when a role player went down. I understand that Wes was the heart & soul of our team the past few seasons, but he was fairly limited in what he did on the floor - defense and shooting. There's no excuse for not being able to play without Wes.
I've been pessimistic about Olshey being willing to replace Stotts. But as the season wears on, and we continue to see the same problems over and over again I think we might be getting close to the point where players start tuning Stotts out. If we don't pick up one of the SAC/DEN/UTH/DEN games our losing streak could go to mid-January.
I still think they let Stotts finish out the season, but teams generally don't keep coaches once the players check out. So I guess it depends on how well the players hide their dissatisfaction.
 
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