Wes Matthews seeking 15 Million Dollar contract (yearly)

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I don't think he's worth 15 million. But it wouldn't surprise me on the heels of losing LA that they would try to save face and give him what he wants. I wonder as fans if we have misquided the organization on what Wes truly means to us and how much that will go into the consideration in resigning him and for how much.

I like Wes but he's limited and I don't feel he's worth 15 mil.
 
ThugginPaulyGAllen said:
There is a zero percent chance Wes would accept that deal. Z e r o.

In the Ironman article I think he said the determining factors would be length of contract, money and role.

1 year + 1 year team option is the exact opposite of 'favorable length of contract'.
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Maybe not but neither you or I speak for Wes. My opinion is what I think the Blazers should do. I think Wes will be over paid elsewhere and I've posted that multiple times. I also do not subscribe to ZERO chance when it comes to any possibility in the business of money or contracts. I've also said before that he's not ever going to be the go to guy on offense in Portland and he's said he wants that role. I don't think he'll be back if he wants a max deal and different role.
 
I like Wes, like his work ethic, his intangibles and his ability to stretch the floor. HOWEVER...

He made $7.2MM last year....he wants more than double that now? .389 shooting from '3' is good but it's not THAT good. And with just 3.7 rebounds and 2.3 assists there is just not enough production other than his outside shooting and an occasional post-up to warrant that much money. If he could create more, handle more and help provide another ball-handling option when Dame gets doubled, then okay. That however is not even close to the case. I'm not even asking him to be a Drexler 20/6/6/2 guy. But there has to be more to command that mcuh money especially after that type of injury and the factual results of players that have tried to come back from that injury. He may prove to be the exception and if he brought more than his outside shooting and intangibles, i'd consider it.

That is just not the case no matter how much I like him as a player.

:matrix:
 
I would give him 15 per but only in the 2 year deal with team option second year like stated before. I like Wes and I actually do believe he comes back as good as before. But on the small chance he doesn't there is no way you go over 2 years. But I not sure what more people want from him when his role is what it is.. Close to Drexler numbers when he as at best 3rd option for us? Haha. Right.
 
riverman said:
Maybe not but neither you or I speak for Wes. My opinion is what I think the Blazers should do. I think Wes will be over paid elsewhere and I've posted that multiple times. I also do not subscribe to ZERO chance when it comes to any possibility in the business of money or contracts. I've also said before that he's not ever going to be the go to guy on offense in Portland and he's said he wants that role. I don't think he'll be back if he wants a max deal and different role.
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Well that's the thing..

I was saying what came out of Wesley mouth. He literally said length of contract will be a determining factor. I'm with you completely.. just Wes pretty much said in that article, if it's not 4 or 5 years he don't want it.
 
riverman said:
I'd give him 15mil a year for 2 years with a team option 2nd year but as I've said before...I love Wes as a Blazer but the Knicks or Lakers will pay him. I don't see the Blazers taking this risk for a long contract.
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It would have to be a 3 year deal then.
 
OneLifeToLive said:
I don't think he's worth 15 million. But it wouldn't surprise me on the heels of losing LA that they would try to save face and give him what he wants. I wonder as fans if we have misquided the organization on what Wes truly means to us and how much that will go into the consideration in resigning him and for how much.

I like Wes but he's limited and I don't feel he's worth 15 mil.
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if LA leaves, Wes won't be coming back. You don't pay out 4 years $60M to a role player coming off an achilles tear if you're in a rebuild. Those are the type of things that keeps franchises in the cellar. Best course of action if LA leaves would be to let Wes go and try to trade up for Russell. If he lives up to his potential you could have a top 5 backcourt going into next season with $50M in cap space, instead of paying Wes and getting trapped in the Abyss.
 
If you wanted 15 million a year would you ask for 15 from the beginning? I wouldn't. However if I was hoping for 12-13 I would probably start around 15. Agents use different techniques to get to the end result. Not sure if this will help him or not, but I don't think the strategy is all that crazy.
 
Wes is asking for the same amount of money per year as I am, lets see if either of those pipe dreams come true.
 
magnifier661 said:
I have a feeling he will come closer than you though. Just sayin
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BonesJones said:
You don't pay out 4 years $60M to a role player coming off an achilles tear if you're in a rebuild. Those are the type of things that keeps franchises in the cellar
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I never said this is a good idea...I think it's organization that puts a big emphasis on PR and it wouldn't surprise me.
 
I blame all this on Chandler Parson's deal with the Rockets last off season..now every player who think's he's better than Parsons wants that check
 
Fuck it, pay the man it ain't my money. I'm drink
 
WHATUP WES I'll GIVE U 15 million kisses
 
SlyPokerDog said:
It's as if none of you have ever negotiated before.

And a friend just didn't happen to leak the $15 million figure to a reporter.
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Yup, that's what I immediately thought--nobody's going to pay him that much. It's 2 car salesmen playing tag with the customer.
 
Sorry...Made the thread but didn't see the thread already there....You guys can delete it.
 
OneLifeToLive said:
I never said this is a good idea...I think it's organization that puts a big emphasis on PR and it wouldn't surprise me.
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Well being at the bottom of the West for years is even worse for PR, so I don't think they would. I think if they think he and LA are gone then they'd try everything outside of trading Dame to trade up for D'Angelo Russell
 
Let's be honest: no basketball player is "worth" $15 mil. But if you define "worth" by "what someone is willing to give", then he may be worth it, and he may be better than others who get the same deal.

Also: it's an average. So you could start around $12M and go up in increments and have the last, massive year be an option year. Or hope to trade him (like Houston did with Asik and Lin).
 
Once the cap goes to 90 mil in 2016, this will represent about 16.6% of cap. It's projected to go to 108 mil in 2017.

Currently, he's getting like 11% of the cap.

Not that different. And he has been vastly underpaid with his production.

The only concerns are his Achilles and his ability to recover from it, along with opportunity cost. The cap jumping so massively in one fell swoop will give us a competitive advantage (lotsa capspace) next summer. Having Wes' contract, LA's, and Dame's on the books next year takes away that advantage.
 
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