Wes Matthews seeking 15 Million Dollar contract (yearly)

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BonesJones said:
Well being at the bottom of the West for years is even worse for PR, so I don't think they would. I think if they think he and LA are gone then they'd try everything outside of trading Dame to trade up for D'Angelo Russell
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The problem is they are in purgatory right now. If OKC doesn't have massive injuries all season long, Portland finishes with the #7 record in the West. I know Portland had injuries too but what happened to Durant would be like having LA out for 2/3rds of the season. They were also missing Ibaka for about 20 games and Westbrook for 15. The bottom of the playoff rung is the worst place to be...not a contender but no good Draft pick either.

They may have been the best starting 5 in the NBA the last 2 years but so far that is worth a 1st round miracle series win and stuck right in the middle of nowhere.

:matrix:
 
TBpup said:
The problem is they are in purgatory right now. If OKC doesn't have massive injuries all season long, Portland finishes with the #7 record in the West. I know Portland had injuries too but what happened to Durant would be like having LA out for 2/3rds of the season. They were also missing Ibaka for about 20 games and Westbrook for 15. The bottom of the playoff rung is the worst place to be...not a contender but no good Draft pick either.

They may have been the best starting 5 in the NBA the last 2 years but so far that is worth a 1st round miracle series win and stuck right in the middle of nowhere.

:matrix:
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Yet they miss the playoffs by 1 game only. Amazing quite frankly, we lose Wes for god sakes and we almost drop completely out the playoffs. Kinda discouraging as a blazer fan
 
In other news, I'm seeking the batch of pot Wes is currently smoking.
 
yuyuza1 said:
You guys realize this number is what he WANTS, right? It's a negotiation tactic.

Realistically, I see him getting a 4/50 deal, which is pretty damn reasonable.
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Yes.
 
A negotiating tactic. Well yes, but.....

Next time you are after a little romance with your significant other, adopt "I want sex with Jennifer Lawrence" as your opening negotiating position. Let us know how that goes.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
... if he thinks he is ready to be an all star and be a central option on offense and be worth $15 million a year, I think he needs to prove it. .
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He never said that. He said he wants a larger role in the offense. Big difference between being "the man", and asking for more opportunities. Given that our "the man" isn't very good at being "the man" it's totally reasonable for Wes to want more of a role in the offense.
 
yuyuza1 said:
You guys realize this number is what he WANTS, right? It's a negotiation tactic.

Realistically, I see him getting a 4/50 deal, which is pretty damn reasonable.
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Yeah, this isn't really big news to me. Most figure he might get 11-12M/year as the final figure. Blazers may start out at 10M. Wes throws out 15M. It's not really that far off in terms of percentages. I work in an M&A group, negotiating deals and this all looks pretty standard in terms of % deviation from the final goal. It's not like Wes asked for 20-30M.
 
The money figure doesn't really bother me, I know thats a negotiating tactic. What bothers me is the rest. The desire for a bigger role. He's not going to get that in Portland if we bring back LA, nor do I think he should be given it. He is who he is offensively. A guy that can play off the ball and occasionally post up. Nothing more. His ballhandling and creativity isn't good enough for anything more.
 
Scalma said:
The money figure doesn't really bother me, I know thats a negotiating tactic. What bothers me is the rest. The desire for a bigger role. He's not going to get that in Portland if we bring back LA, nor do I think he should be given it. He is who he is offensively. A guy that can play off the ball and occasionally post up. Nothing more. His ballhandling and creativity isn't good enough for anything more.
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But he could still be featured more doing the things he does well. Take away 4 of LMA's long jumpers and give them to Wes - a guy who shoots a higher percentage from nearly everywhere, than LMA shoots on those long jumpers. Give Wes two post-ups and two screens and he's become more featured in the offense AND we've potentially increased our scoring output.
 
blue9 said:
But he could still be featured more doing the things he does well. Take away 4 of LMA's long jumpers and give them to Wes - a guy who shoots a higher percentage from nearly everywhere, than LMA shoots on those long jumpers. Give Wes two post-ups and two screens and he's become more featured in the offense AND we've potentially increased our scoring output.
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I think this would be a good option.
 
blue9 said:
But he could still be featured more doing the things he does well. Take away 4 of LMA's long jumpers and give them to Wes - a guy who shoots a higher percentage from nearly everywhere, than LMA shoots on those long jumpers. Give Wes two post-ups and two screens and he's become more featured in the offense AND we've potentially increased our scoring output.
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I'm for that if thats what Matthews had in mind. Something tells me that it isn't though.
 
I love Wes, and hope the Blazers give him a chance to show he still can play at a high level. But, I am not taking Wes’s agents word for it. To be offered the long term contract for over $10 million per year, Wes will need to prove he is completely recovered from his injury.

A 4 year deal is a non-starter. A two year deal with the second year player option is my top offer.

As far as the $$$ go, I would give him the $15 million, but over two years. 2/$15 million is my top offer.

If Wes shows in the first year he is as good as, or better, than pre-injury, he opts out and re-signs a long term contract with the greatly increased cap space, he gets his 4/$60 million. If he is not as productive due to the injury, he gets paid the $15 million to provide financial security for his family.

In reference to what Wes said about his role on a team. Wes is under a lot of pressure right now. He sounds frustrated, which is understandable. When Wes gets back on the floor, he will be a team player again.
 
blue9 said:
But he could still be featured more doing the things he does well. Take away 4 of LMA's long jumpers and give them to Wes - a guy who shoots a higher percentage from nearly everywhere, than LMA shoots on those long jumpers. Give Wes two post-ups and two screens and he's become more featured in the offense AND we've potentially increased our scoring output.
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Give Wes more shots and tell Aldridge to shoot less? Ya that's going to sit well.
 
I think a very likely destination for Wes is a lottery team for the full max. There will be all sorts of non guaranteed years and the team will have the right to cut ties. It'll be the teams that miss out on free agents. Heck the Lakers paid Jordan Hill $9 million last summer. They can take their chance with Wes and if he returns to form they added a quality starter for nothing but if he doesn't recover they cut ties and roll the cap space forward to use next year.
 
TBpup said:
The problem is they are in purgatory right now. If OKC doesn't have massive injuries all season long, Portland finishes with the #7 record in the West. I know Portland had injuries too but what happened to Durant would be like having LA out for 2/3rds of the season. They were also missing Ibaka for about 20 games and Westbrook for 15. The bottom of the playoff rung is the worst place to be...not a contender but no good Draft pick either.

They may have been the best starting 5 in the NBA the last 2 years but so far that is worth a 1st round miracle series win and stuck right in the middle of nowhere.

:matrix:
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Warriors went from 6th seed and out in the first round in 2014 to the championship in 2015 without any significant roster changes.
 
$10M/$10M two years with a player option after the first. Deng signed that deal with Miami last summer.

Gives Wes a raise for his pain & suffering and being underpaid a few seasons. If he returns 100%, he can command a new bigger contract in the 1st year of the new TV contract salary structure. If he doesn't come back, he gets a second $10M as a thank you.

If it really works out for him, he might sign for more than $15M next year.
 
Draco said:
I think a very likely destination for Wes is a lottery team for the full max. There will be all sorts of non guaranteed years and the team will have the right to cut ties. It'll be the teams that miss out on free agents. Heck the Lakers paid Jordan Hill $9 million last summer. They can take their chance with Wes and if he returns to form they added a quality starter for nothing but if he doesn't recover they cut ties and roll the cap space forward to use next year.
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I really think the Suns will go after him hard. Their medical staff+need for a real shooting guard... They have the space
 
I'd give Wes $15M for two years - even fully guaranteed, rather than Team Option on the 2nd year like some people have suggested. I think Wes will defy the odds and have a full (or mostly full) recovery. But even if he doesn't, that $15M expiring contract could be put to use.
 
Whoa...15 mil a year. Thats ridiculous money. However, Paul Allen could afford anyone he likes.
 
stampedehero said:
Whoa...15 mil a year. Thats ridiculous money. However, Paul Allen could afford anyone he likes.
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Someone has to offer him that first. I really doubt paul allen let's someone go because of an extra few million bucks. That's if it gets to that. Which I doubt.
 
As was mentioned by at least one poster earlier, he's starting above what he expects to get. He'll end up worked down to 12-13 at best (for him) unless some team just massively overpays him. But I don't see that happening to this degree coming off of that injury.
 
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