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An ex-coworker of mine was recently in the news for murdering his roommate. When recounting discussions we've had with said murderer, a friend of mine (who worked at the same company) and I recalled him talking about switching to a new anti-anxiety medication. A mere blip in a random day's experiences suddenly stood out. It's been a few months since this happened, but this most recent shooting stirred this memory again, and got me looking into the correlation between prescribed psychoactives and violence, specifically murder. The numbers are overwhelming.

https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/0...tidepressants-can-cause-violence-and-suicide/

mobile.wnd.com/2018/02/media-ignoring-1-crucial-factor-in-florida-school-shooting/

There are a million more articles or studies with similar conclusions. Not suggesting this is a solitary cause, but it is certainly intriguing. Is it safe to say it's a contributing factor, or should I put on a tin foil hat and shut the fuck up?
 
jonnyboy said:
An ex-coworker of mine was recently in the news for murdering his roommate. When recounting discussions we've had with said murderer, a friend of mine (who worked at the same company) and I recalled him talking about switching to a new anti-anxiety medication. A mere blip in a random day's experiences suddenly stood out. It's been a few months since this happened, but this most recent shooting stirred this memory again, and got me looking into the correlation between prescribed psychoactives and violence, specifically murder. The numbers are overwhelming.

https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/0...tidepressants-can-cause-violence-and-suicide/

mobile.wnd.com/2018/02/media-ignoring-1-crucial-factor-in-florida-school-shooting/

There are a million more articles or studies with similar conclusions. Not suggesting this is a solitary cause, but it is certainly intriguing. Is it safe to say it's a contributing factor, or should I put on a tin foil hat and shut the fuck up?
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How could anyone really know how a mind altering drug alters a specific mind?

For all my faults I've never been depressed since I moved to Vegas. Thinking back on my times in dreary old Washington I might have eventually tried something. Now I can't fathom it.


There's too much money in it and very little concrete proof that one could provide to really limit these drugs. Are they more positive than negative? Who knows?
 
jonnyboy said:
An ex-coworker of mine was recently in the news for murdering his roommate. When recounting discussions we've had with said murderer, a friend of mine (who worked at the same company) and I recalled him talking about switching to a new anti-anxiety medication. A mere blip in a random day's experiences suddenly stood out. It's been a few months since this happened, but this most recent shooting stirred this memory again, and got me looking into the correlation between prescribed psychoactives and violence, specifically murder. The numbers are overwhelming.

https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/0...tidepressants-can-cause-violence-and-suicide/

mobile.wnd.com/2018/02/media-ignoring-1-crucial-factor-in-florida-school-shooting/

There are a million more articles or studies with similar conclusions. Not suggesting this is a solitary cause, but it is certainly intriguing. Is it safe to say it's a contributing factor, or should I put on a tin foil hat and shut the fuck up?
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Much better work at finding a cause and/or solution than "ban bump stocks" well done. I use to work in a mental health hospital and i'd have to say just from observations, the ones that grow up on these meds seem more likely to do crazy shit. Had one guy charge out of his house with an AK-47 and shoot at cops when they were just doing a check up call from his worried mom. He cycled through the ward and constantly had new meds.
 
Yup. There definitely is a connection. People ignore it though. They ignore any of the mental health aspect to these shootings. I have no idea why
 
Florida is one of the worst states in the U.S for mental health care too iirc.
 
Cippy91 said:
Yup. There definitely is a connection. People ignore it though. They ignore any of the mental health aspect to these shootings. I have no idea why
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Are you saying that as a country, we *ignore* mental health, or that in context of conversations regarding these shootings, we ignore it?
 
I've read that the medications are a common thing among many of the mass shooters, too.

But I don't think there's some magic bullet involving mental health that is the solution to these mass shootings. Like I've posted before, this latest shooter demonstrated that he could carry out a well planned and deadly attack.
 
White, male, straight, American-born, generally history of violence against women/girls, easy access to unlimited firearms. Usually middle class or comfortable; you don't hear about too many poverty-stricken mass shooters.
In other words, not the people "we" are told to fear.
 
crandc said:
White, male, straight, American-born, generally history of violence against women/girls, easy access to unlimited firearms. Usually middle class or comfortable; you don't hear about too many poverty-stricken mass shooters.
In other words, not the people "we" are told to fear.
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Cippy91 said:
Yup. There definitely is a connection. People ignore it though. They ignore any of the mental health aspect to these shootings. I have no idea why
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Probably because there are tons of mentally ill people out there who DON’T kill people. Just my opinion. I’ll take my chances with a mentally ill person and a sling shot and a hunting knife over an assault rifle anyday. Just my opinion.
 
crandc said:
White, male, straight, American-born, generally history of violence against women/girls, easy access to unlimited firearms. Usually middle class or comfortable; you don't hear about too many poverty-stricken mass shooters.
In other words, not the people "we" are told to fear.
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That's right! You don't see dogs carrying out these mass shootings.

Also I bet all of these shooters were cat owners.

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crandc said:
White, male, straight, American-born, generally history of violence against women/girls, easy access to unlimited firearms. Usually middle class or comfortable; you don't hear about too many poverty-stricken mass shooters.
In other words, not the people "we" are told to fear.
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This.
 
jonnyboy said:
An ex-coworker of mine was recently in the news for murdering his roommate. When recounting discussions we've had with said murderer, a friend of mine (who worked at the same company) and I recalled him talking about switching to a new anti-anxiety medication. A mere blip in a random day's experiences suddenly stood out. It's been a few months since this happened, but this most recent shooting stirred this memory again, and got me looking into the correlation between prescribed psychoactives and violence, specifically murder. The numbers are overwhelming.

https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/0...tidepressants-can-cause-violence-and-suicide/

mobile.wnd.com/2018/02/media-ignoring-1-crucial-factor-in-florida-school-shooting/

There are a million more articles or studies with similar conclusions. Not suggesting this is a solitary cause, but it is certainly intriguing. Is it safe to say it's a contributing factor, or should I put on a tin foil hat and shut the fuck up?
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I would like to see a list of how many school shooters had been prescribed antidepressants or other medications for mental health and how many had stopped taking them before the shootings occured.
 
So let's see if I have straight. Psych drugs are turning perfectly normal people in to mass shooters. Not that these people were having mental problems and were prescribed drugs in addition to therapy. No possibility that there could be many cases where drugs and therapy has prevented shootings. Just that now doctors are bad. Healthcare bad. Science and research bad. Strange times we live in.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
So let's see if I have straight. Psych drugs are turning perfectly normal people in to mass shooters. Not that these people were having mental problems and were prescribed drugs in addition to therapy. No possibility that there could be many cases where drugs and therapy has prevented shootings. Just that now doctors are bad. Healthcare bad. Science and research bad. Strange times we live in.
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crandc said:
White, male, straight, American-born, generally history of violence against women/girls, easy access to unlimited firearms.
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Major Nidal Hassan (Fort Hood) disagrees. As does Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez (Chattanooga recruiting offices). Or Aaron Alexis (Navy Yard). Or Christopher Dorner. I guess we're super-equal-opportunity in the military when it comes to mass murder, as opposed to all you civilians..
Usually middle class or comfortable; you don't hear about too many poverty-stricken mass shooters. In other words, not the people "we" are told to fear.
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So it's all the affluent gangs in DET, New Orleans, STL, CHI, BAL, PHI, LA that are murdering folks?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
That's right! You don't see dogs carrying out these mass shootings.

Also I bet all of these shooters were cat owners.

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No. Cats kill one mouse at a time, consume or give to human, then another. So they don't need assault teeth.
 
BrianFromWA said:
Major Nidal Hassan (Fort Hood) disagrees. As does Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez (Chattanooga recruiting offices). Or Aaron Alexis (Navy Yard). Or Christopher Dorner. I guess we're super-equal-opportunity in the military when it comes to mass murder, as opposed to all you civilians..

So it's all the affluent gangs in DET, New Orleans, STL, CHI, BAL, PHI, LA that are murdering folks?
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You don't even get it. Any white person who kills is just exercising their privilege.

Any non white person who kills is rebelling against that white privilege.

No white males equals perpetual peace on Earth.

Kum ba mother fucking yah
 
THE HCP said:
Probably because there are tons of mentally ill people out there who DON’T kill people. Just my opinion. I’ll take my chances with a mentally ill person and a sling shot and a hunting knife over an assault rifle anyday. Just my opinion.
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Calm the ego. Why every thread gotta be about you playa?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
So let's see if I have straight. Psych drugs are turning perfectly normal people in to mass shooters. Not that these people were having mental problems and were prescribed drugs in addition to therapy. No possibility that there could be many cases where drugs and therapy has prevented shootings. Just that now doctors are bad. Healthcare bad. Science and research bad. Strange times we live in.
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With my experience of people taking these types of drugs, it’s hit or miss on whether it makes them worse, or better.

I take 20mg of Prozac every morning. Now I can usually sleep through an entire night.

But it still freaks me out to think about the long term affects of these drugs, because we have no clue.

I know alcohol will kill you eventually.

I know smoking weed wont do anything to you, unless the weed you’re smoking has pesticides, or some other nasty shit on it.

I know what meth and heroin and all the other shit will do.

I’m not sure what happens when you take Prozac everyday... I found out there was fluoride in it, after I started taking it.

Apparently that shit is like this century’s lead problem.

On a side note; I’m really interested to see the long term affects of molly. I think these rave kids are gonna feel weird later in life.
 
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