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Nate said:
With my experience of people taking these types of drugs, it’s hit or miss on whether it makes them worse, or better.

I take 20mg of Prozac every morning. Now I can usually sleep through an entire night.

But it still freaks me out to think about the long term affects of these drugs, because we have no clue.

I know alcohol will kill you eventually.

I know smoking weed wont do anything to you, unless the weed you’re smoking has pesticides, or some other nasty shit on it.

I know what meth and heroin and all the other shit will do.

I’m not sure what happens when you take Prozac everyday... I found out there was fluoride in it, after I started taking it.

Apparently that shit is like this century’s lead problem.

On a side note; I’m really interested to see the long term affects of molly. I think these rave kids are gonna feel weird later in life.
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When i found out flouride was a prominant ingrediant in prozac i had to wonder why water treatment plants put the shit in our water.
 
crandc said:
White, male, straight, American-born, generally history of violence against women/girls, easy access to unlimited firearms. Usually middle class or comfortable; you don't hear about too many poverty-stricken mass shooters.
In other words, not the people "we" are told to fear.
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You're making it out like it's Chad the football jock with the hot cheerleader girlfriend who decides one day to shoot up the school.

It's not.

It's the weird kid who is on prescription drugs for depression or ADHD or some other kind of mental illness. Let's not paint these people as though they're living in a perfectly happy little life until one day they snap. They usually suffer from bullying and/or an abusive home. These kids should be very easy to pick out and focus on. The most recent kid was already known as a threat. He had been reported to the FBI. We all knew these kinds of kids in school. I knew several kids that were horribly picked on because they were weird, and school shootings were fairly new when I was finishing high school, but those would be the kids that would bring a gun to school now.
 
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put some restrictions on who, how and what firearms are used.
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But there ARE restrictions on who, how, and what firearms are used.

I know that you know this.

And this is the problem. There is a large segment of the population who are screaming for gun control while simultaneously having zero understanding of what laws are already in place, as well as no clue how guns work or what distinguishes one gun from another. It would be like having a million people with zero understanding of healthcare or medicine talk about how to regulate our doctors... or a bunch of people who never made it past the second grade telling teachers and administrators how to educate our kids. I really wish people would actually do some research before screaming about what needs to be done.

I know you have owned guns Further. I know you have a pretty decent understanding of what laws currently exist, but posts like yours are not helping because the people who DON'T understand guns and gun laws read that kind of statement and just assume that guns are completely unregulated. That there are no laws and that anyone can buy any gun whenever they wish. It astounds me how many people don't know the difference between a fully automatic machine gun and a semi-automatic rifle. And most of the people who are yelling to ban bump stocks have no idea what they are, or how they work. They just think it makes a gun into a machine gun, so it needs to be banned. People need to actually read up before talking about making changes to our laws.
 
What do they all have? Probably social media accounts and internet access....most may have cell phones too!
 
Natebishop3 said:
But there ARE restrictions on who, how, and what firearms are used.

I know that you know this.

And this is the problem. There is a large segment of the population who are screaming for gun control while simultaneously having zero understanding of what laws are already in place, as well as no clue how guns work or what distinguishes one gun from another. It would be like having a million people with zero understanding of healthcare or medicine talk about how to regulate our doctors... or a bunch of people who never made it past the second grade telling teachers and administrators how to educate our kids. I really wish people would actually do some research before screaming about what needs to be done.

I know you have owned guns Further. I know you have a pretty decent understanding of what laws currently exist, but posts like yours are not helping because the people who DON'T understand guns and gun laws read that kind of statement and just assume that guns are completely unregulated. That there are no laws and that anyone can buy any gun whenever they wish. It astounds me how many people don't know the difference between a fully automatic machine gun and a semi-automatic rifle. And most of the people who are yelling to ban bump stocks have no idea what they are, or how they work. They just think it makes a gun into a machine gun, so it needs to be banned. People need to actually read up before talking about making changes to our laws.
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Guns are regulated to some degree but not wisely. There are dumb rules like if a gun looks a certain way or the type of grip permitted for long guns. But there are far more lapses in regulations that need repairs. How easy it is to purchase is crazy since there are ways to legally circumvent the background check. I think age is a serious problem in that people who are 18 simply don’t have all their faculties yet, especially men. I would love to see an age limit of 21 or even 25, with avenues in place for those between 18-25 to qualify through gun education. I would like all owners to be required to have locked storage capacity for every firearm they own. There are a bunch of additional things that could be put in place to intelligently curb gun violence.
 
Natebishop3 said:
But there ARE restrictions on who, how, and what firearms are used.

I know that you know this.

And this is the problem. There is a large segment of the population who are screaming for gun control while simultaneously having zero understanding of what laws are already in place, as well as no clue how guns work or what distinguishes one gun from another. It would be like having a million people with zero understanding of healthcare or medicine talk about how to regulate our doctors... or a bunch of people who never made it past the second grade telling teachers and administrators how to educate our kids. I really wish people would actually do some research before screaming about what needs to be done.

I know you have owned guns Further. I know you have a pretty decent understanding of what laws currently exist, but posts like yours are not helping because the people who DON'T understand guns and gun laws read that kind of statement and just assume that guns are completely unregulated. That there are no laws and that anyone can buy any gun whenever they wish. It astounds me how many people don't know the difference between a fully automatic machine gun and a semi-automatic rifle. And most of the people who are yelling to ban bump stocks have no idea what they are, or how they work. They just think it makes a gun into a machine gun, so it needs to be banned. People need to actually read up before talking about making changes to our laws.
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Also Nate, I think you don’t give your opponents in this debate enough credit. They may not know how a bump stock works but they do understand what it means to see so many killed at country music concerts, high schools, churches and so on. People don’t need to understand all the nuances to understand that there are some measures that need to be taken to save lives. We can leave the highly specific details to those who erite the laws and vote on them.
 
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HCP said:
Probably because there are tons of mentally ill people out there who DON’T kill people. Just my opinion. I’ll take my chances with a mentally ill person and a sling shot and a hunting knife over an assault rifle anyday. Just my opinion.
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Two can play that game. Ready? There are tons of people out there with guns who don’t kill people.
 
200wmom says it .gif Shooters want a mom that is in their corner. When they pull a trigger they forget their moms.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
So let's see if I have straight. Psych drugs are turning perfectly normal people in to mass shooters. Not that these people were having mental problems and were prescribed drugs in addition to therapy. No possibility that there could be many cases where drugs and therapy has prevented shootings. Just that now doctors are bad. Healthcare bad. Science and research bad. Strange times we live in.
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Nobody is saying they create killers but the fact a lot of these shooters are on them should say something. There is a connection. That’s all
 
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Also Nate, I think you don’t give your opponents in this debate enough credit. They may not know how s numb stock works but they do understand what it means to see so many killed at country music concerts, high schools, churches and so on. People don’t need to understand all the nuances to understand that there are some measures that need to be taken to save lives. We can leave the highly specific details to those who erite the laws and vote on them.
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You're right, people are smart enough to know something is wrong, but they're not educated enough on the subject to make a decision on how to fix it.

Similarly, we can see something is wrong with our government when nobody wants Net Neutrality to end, but the FCC just does it anyway. So what do people do? They write letters that fall on deaf ears. They march in the streets. What does that accomplish? Nothing.

Recognizing that there is a problem is important, but understanding how to actually fix the problem requires knowledge and action in the right direction. Blindly calling for change doesn't fix anything. Look where that got us? We have arguably the worst President in the history of our country because people were blindly calling for change, any change, and he fed them what they wanted to hear. How is that "change" working out for us?
 
rasheedfan2005 said:
When i found out flouride was a prominant ingrediant in prozac i had to wonder why water treatment plants put the shit in our water.
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Hopefully you then did some research and discovered that it isn't even remotely the same thing.

barfo
 
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Guns are regulated to some degree but not wisely. There are dumb rules like if a gun looks a certain way or the type of grip permitted for long guns. But there are far more lapses in regulations that need repairs. How easy it is to purchase is crazy since there are ways to legally circumvent the background check. I think age is a serious problem in that people who are 18 simply don’t have all their faculties yet, especially men. I would love to see an age limit of 21 or even 25, with avenues in place for those between 18-25 to qualify through gun education. I would like all owners to be required to have locked storage capacity for every firearm they own. There are a bunch of additional things that could be put in place to intelligently curb gun violence.
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This seems kind of drastic when the legal age to enter the military is 18. So we can trust an 18 year old with a tank.... or a grenade launcher.... but not a hunting rifle.
 
Natebishop3 said:
This seems kind of drastic when the legal age to enter the military is 18. So we can trust an 18 year old with a tank.... or a grenade launcher.... but not a hunting rifle.
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I think the tank and grenade launchers are used with training and adult supervision.

barfo
 
And why do they call them Mass shooters when none of the shootings have involved a Catholic church?
 
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I have an idea, let’s work at improving the mental health systems AND put some restrictions on who, how and what firearms are used.

It’s not one or the other.
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No it's just the one, because the other would require an Amendment to negate the 2nd Amendment.

That's how America works.

Learn basic Constitutional Law, then post.
 
MARIS61 said:
No it's just the one, because the other would require an Amendment to negate the 2nd Amendment.

That's how America works.

Learn basic Constitutional Law, then post.
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I just found our leader for our uprising against Trump and the military!
 
Natebishop3 said:
You're making it out like it's Chad the football jock with the hot cheerleader girlfriend who decides one day to shoot up the school.

It's not.

It's the weird kid who is on prescription drugs for depression or ADHD or some other kind of mental illness. Let's not paint these people as though they're living in a perfectly happy little life until one day they snap. They usually suffer from bullying and/or an abusive home. These kids should be very easy to pick out and focus on. The most recent kid was already known as a threat. He had been reported to the FBI. We all knew these kinds of kids in school. I knew several kids that were horribly picked on because they were weird, and school shootings were fairly new when I was finishing high school, but those would be the kids that would bring a gun to school now.
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That's it to a "T".
 
MARIS61 said:
It's exactly the same, and so is the reason.
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Take off the tinfoil hat Maris. Don't you know tinfoil is a major source of deadly fluoride?

barfo
 
Natebishop3 said:
You're right, people are smart enough to know something is wrong, but they're not educated enough on the subject to make a decision on how to fix it.

Similarly, we can see something is wrong with our government when nobody wants Net Neutrality to end, but the FCC just does it anyway. So what do people do? They write letters that fall on deaf ears. They march in the streets. What does that accomplish? Nothing.

Recognizing that there is a problem is important, but understanding how to actually fix the problem requires knowledge and action in the right direction. Blindly calling for change doesn't fix anything. Look where that got us? We have arguably the worst President in the history of our country because people were blindly calling for change, any change, and he fed them what they wanted to hear. How is that "change" working out for us?
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Actually, the people who voted for him are of the collective opinion that the change is working out even faster and better than expected. Now that his DOJ has smoked out the Russian-DNC collusion and Obama's deep state election rigging, we know most of this anti-Trump hype was just pot-stirring by foreign and domestic socialists attempting regime change.

Real Americans are stepping up for Phase 2.

The Dem's old guard is finished and their young upstarts are all socialists. Ginsberg won't last 3 more years with her senility leading her to continual public rants displaying her unsuitability for her position in SCOTUS.

Looks like we'll get 2 terms worth of Trump Constitutional Restoration before his 1st term is completed.
 
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Also Nate, I think you don’t give your opponents in this debate enough credit. They may not know how s numb stock works but they do understand what it means to see so many killed at country music concerts, high schools, churches and so on. People don’t need to understand all the nuances to understand that there are some measures that need to be taken to save lives. We can leave the highly specific details to those who erite the laws and vote on them.
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It's called naivete', gullibility, or blind obedience.

It's the opposite of understanding.

Your interpretation of the effect of bump stocks shows you don't understand bump stocks at all.
 
MARIS61 said:
It's called naivete', gullibility, or blind obedience.

It's the opposite of understanding.

Your interpretation of the effect of bump stocks shows you don't understand bump stocks at all.
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I've looked at bump stocks, from both sides now
and still somehow, I really don't know bump stocks, at all

barfo
 
MARIS61 said:
Your interpretation of the effect of bump stocks shows you don't understand bump stocks at all.
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bs...you don't have to know the details of a nuclear warhead to understand what it can do.....blind obedience? give it a break.....
 
riverman said:
bs...you don't have to know the details of a nuclear warhead to understand what it can do.....blind obedience? give it a break.....
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Yeah, those 2 things are exactly the same...

For your continued education, bump stocks merely attempt to replicate a basic manual operation of a semi-automatic firing mechanism.

Anyone, with minimal practice, can manually outperform a bump stock's purpose of speedier firing.
 
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