What if the Pacers didnt match Roy Hibberts contract offer?

[BlazerCaravan]

With Hibbert, we'd be undefeated right now...

...on a 100-game winning streak.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

And Drummond makes more money than Leonard.

I meant that Drummond was picked two players ahead of Leanord and that we should have attempted to get him.

Also Drummond makes LESS money than Hibbert. That was my point.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

The money wouldn't have been an issue since we had bird rights for Hickson and would have already had Hibbert so we didn't need much money last summer for two of our bigger pickups. Mo Williams signed a vet minimum deal, he is joining under either scenario. Hickson is making ~$5 million a year, which is a very fair deal for his skillset and for a good backup big. I already discounted T Rob but he is worse than JJ so win in that dept. For me the argument comes down to
if we get hibbert then we can bring in/resign JJ, Mo & Dorell
vs
Lose JJ and sign/trade for Lopez, T Rob, Mo, CJ, Dorell

The Blazers had to renounce Hickson in order to offer Hibbert the max contract.

There is a rule where a team can renounce a guy to remove his cap hold so they can use their cap space to make an offer to another player, and if they don't get the guy they are after, they can get the Bird rights back on the player they had to renounce.

Signing Hibbert would have meant no JJ.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

But signing hibbert would have meant we would have been over the cap and had the mid level to start this season, so MO and Dorell could have still been signed.

So no JJ, TRob Or CJ cause we'd have been too good to keep the pick last year.

I'm happy how things worked out.

 

[Nhawz]

But signing hibbert would have meant we would have been over the cap and had the mid level to start this season, so MO and Dorell could have still been signed.

So no JJ, TRob Or CJ cause we'd have been too good to keep the pick last year.


I'm happy how things worked out.

Yep, you and me both. And we havent even seen CJ yet. Thank you once again Pritchard!

 

[Sinobas]

We'd be the leading title contender. Lopez is good, but imagine this team with a real lock down interior defender. Our bench would be like Williams, Freeland and Babbit...

The Pacers didn't seem to be gung-ho about matching either. The Blazers history is one of near misses and woulda coulda shouldas.....

 

[Sinobas]

So do we get an exception next year?

 

[PapaG]

The Blazers had to renounce Hickson in order to offer Hibbert the max contract.

There is a rule where a team can renounce a guy to remove his cap hold so they can use their cap space to make an offer to another player, and if they don't get the guy they are after, they can get the Bird rights back on the player they had to renounce.

Signing Hibbert would have meant no JJ.

Repped

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

The money wouldn't have been an issue since we had bird rights for Hickson and would have already had Hibbert so we didn't need much money last summer for two of our bigger pickups. Mo Williams signed a vet minimum deal, he is joining under either scenario. Hickson is making ~$5 million a year, which is a very fair deal for his skillset and for a good backup big. I already discounted T Rob but he is worse than JJ so win in that dept. For me the argument comes down to
if we get hibbert then we can bring in/resign JJ, Mo & Dorell
vs
Lose JJ and sign/trade for Lopez, T Rob, Mo, CJ, Dorell

Mo signed for the Room exception of $2.652 mil. TRob, Lopez, Mo or Wright, and CJ would not have happened under your scenario. Portland would have, in your scenario, only picked up Mo or Wright. Mo and Wright's current combine salaries are more than the Non-Tax Payer Exception. Still leaving Portland pretty thin. Portland could not go over the cap with Hickson without paying him his cap hold at the least. His cap hold was something like $7.5 mil.

As Baracuda correctly stated, the Blazers had to renounce JJ to provide the cap space (and extra $7.5 mil) to sign Hibbert

 

[ponderguy]

The Blazers had to renounce Hickson in order to offer Hibbert the max contract.

There is a rule where a team can renounce a guy to remove his cap hold so they can use their cap space to make an offer to another player, and if they don't get the guy they are after, they can get the Bird rights back on the player they had to renounce.

Signing Hibbert would have meant no JJ.

Yup I was wrong got my dates mixed up

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Yup I was wrong got my dates mixed up

I did too earlier in the thread

 

[ponderguy]

I did too earlier in the thread

 

[cmeese47]

Had we got Drummond over Leonard for some trade package we would have been in better shape. Had we got Hibbert still think we would have been much better off. However, the caveat to all that is would they be the same players if they were on the Blazers team. The Pacers playoff run last year really toughened up Hibbert.