What is Dame's actual value?

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Phatguysrule said:
Trading Dame for Herro is stupid. Portland doesn't want him. I'd rather they take less value back for a better fit.

Miami doesn't have what Portland wants. Get another team involved so it makes sense for Portland or Dame can just stay.

Fuck Miami.
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Yup, at some point, need to tell Dame that Miami can't give Portland what they want so he better show up to training camp until Miami figures it out or he expands his list of teams.

Portland should not be the one that has to compromise here.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Great question

I honestly think 2 young players and 3ish picks is probably in the area. Dame is a great player, but Dame is also going to 33 years old. We were all talking about not wanting to trade too many picks and young players for Siakam or Paul George
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Yes but picks are of no value to Miami. They only like undrafted players.
 
andalusian said:
Yup, at some point, need to tell Dame that Miami can't give Portland what they want so he better show up to training camp until Miami figures it out or he expands his list of teams.

Portland should not be the one that has to compromise here.
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Bingo. And Portland literally doesn't have to.

Dame, tell your agent to get to work. You have a contract and Portland is living up to their end of the contract.

I love you, but you're destroying your legacy, regardless of what Portland has done. You're only hurting yourself.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Bingo. And Portland literally doesn't have to.

Dame, tell your agent to get to work. You have a contract and Portland is living up to their end of the contract.

I love you, but you're destroying your legacy, regardless of what Portland has done. You're only hurting yourself.
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I can see Dame firing his agent for bad council.
 
I'm so over this Dame drama. I'd be fine at this point with the Herro deal and picks....we just need a 3rd team willing to take on the Herro contract. Lillard's value is not very high IMO and we should never expect the value Jazz received for Donovan Mitchell. Mitchell is much younger and on a better contract vs Dame. Dame is better but in the same ballpark. Getting off Dame contract + a few 1st round picks is enough for me + get Dame to his preferred team. If we can get a nice young player also that be a nice cherry on top but don't expect it.

Unfortunately...this might be the start of a very long summer of BS rumors, and more drama from Dame, his Agent, and Blazer's front office. This could have been handled so much better and a win/win for both sides. What I fear the most is we go through hell with an ugly divorce that is nationally covered all summer and we still end up getting the same deal that is on the table today.
 
I do think Dame will likely have a really ugly decline in the next couple years as his athleticism further fades. We all saw how bad he looked two seasons ago when the core injury limited his burst. I feel like that was a sneak preview of 35+ Dame.

Other teams are probably aware of that as well, so Goodwin threats aside I think anyone has to look at it like it's the missing piece in a 2 year window for championship contention if they're wanting to trade for Dame. And that's probably a really small number of suitors.
 
Mediocre Man said:
In what way? Getting him exactly what he wants?
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Only if Joe let's them screw the Blazers over. If Joe chooses not to be screwed over I don't see how Dame gets exactly what he wants (playing for Miami with Bam and Butler).

I sincerely hope Joe doesn't let Dame's agent screw the team over. Honestly, I hope Dame fires him.
 
Pritchslap Madness said:
I'm so over this Dame drama. I'd be fine at this point with the Herro deal and picks....we just need a 3rd team willing to take on the Herro contract. Lillard's value is not very high IMO and we should never expect the value Jazz received for Donovan Mitchell. Mitchell is much younger and on a better contract vs Dame. Dame is better but in the same ballpark. Getting off Dame contract + a few 1st round picks is enough for me + get Dame to his preferred team. If we can get a nice young player also that be a nice cherry on top but don't expect it.

Unfortunately...this might be the start of a very long summer of BS rumors, and more drama from Dame, his Agent, and Blazer's front office. This could have been handled so much better and a win/win for both sides. What I fear the most is we go through hell with an ugly divorce that is nationally covered all summer and we still end up getting the same deal that is on the table today.
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I couldn't care less about the Dame drama. It's only hurting Dame. It doesn't hurt the team at all, now that we know he wants out.

This whole thing is just going to screw Dame and his legacy unless Cronin is a SUPER nice guy. Like super nice enough to get fired in order to keep Dame happy.

I don't think he'll ever get another GM job if he lets the Blazers be screwed over by Dame's agent.
 
More to the Blazers than a lot of you seem willing to accept. Don't know what you got, till it's gone.
 
I want to bump this because I'm still really not sure what the answer is.

What the heck is Dame's actual fair value?
 
Natebishop3 said:
I want to bump this because I'm still really not sure what the answer is.

What the heck is Dame's actual fair value?
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I think he was more effective last season than Durant was this past season and he’s played five less seasons. Obviously Dame isn’t on Durant’s level when considering career accomplishments but to any person paying attention, Dane is more valuable.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I want to bump this because I'm still really not sure what the answer is.

What the heck is Dame's actual fair value?
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problem is we have no way to know since Dame and his agent cut our throats by telling the rest of the teams he only wants to play for Miami.

my gut feel is 1-2 good young players (depending on upside) and 3 1st round draft picks. Might take 2 1st rounders if they are unprotected
 
1 Eye Jack said:
problem is we have no way to know since Dame and his agent cut our throats by telling the rest of the teams he only wants to play for Miami.

my gut feel is 1-2 good young players (depending on upside) and 3 1st round draft picks. Might take 2 1st rounders if they are unprotected
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But here's the problem.... what's a good young player? Is Jovic a good young player? Or are we talking about Bridges level players? Is Herro a good young player?
 
Apparently, Dame's value is getting the Blazers on TV talk shows every day, without even picking up a basketball.
 
Natebishop3 said:
But here's the problem.... what's a good young player? Is Jovic a good young player? Or are we talking about Bridges level players? Is Herro a good young player?
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For the Blazers, someone 6' 7" or taller who can defend and at least hit catch-and-shoot threes. someone like Klay Thompson.
 
blazerfan11 said:
For the Blazers, someone 6' 7" or taller who can defend and at least hit catch-and-shoot threes. someone like Klay Thompson.
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Who is that person?

It's not Jovic.

I don't think it's Jaquez. So clearly it's not someone on Miami.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Herro is a good young player. He's just at the wrong position. We need good young wings and centers.
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last year, Herro averaged 5.4 rebounds
Jerami Grant averaged 4.5
Tyler could be Billups new 6'5" PF ?
Josh Hart's replacement ??
 
1 Eye Jack said:
problem is we have no way to know since Dame and his agent cut our throats by telling the rest of the teams he only wants to play for Miami.

my gut feel is 1-2 good young players (depending on upside) and 3 1st round draft picks. Might take 2 1st rounders if they are unprotected
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Dramatic much?
 
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