What is Dame's actual value?

[blazerfan11]

last year, Herro averaged 5.4 rebounds
Jerami Grant averaged 4.5
Tyler could be Billups new 6'5" PF ?
Josh Hart's replacement ??

Why should the Blazers bend over and take a player that wouldn't even be on the list of desirable additions? There could be 20 names and Herro wouldn't be one of them.

 

[riverman]

I think Dame's value is an allstar , all nba player....y'know, someone like JIMMY BUTLER

 

[blazerfan11]

Or we could just keep Dame.

That's a better option than trying to make a successful trade with Miami, which is impossible unless they want to give up Adebayo or Butler.

 

[blazerfan11]

I think Dame's value is an allstar , all nba player....y'know, someone like JIMMY BUTLER

Or Bam Adebayo.

 

[Further]

His actual value is different than what we are going to get. The only way for the Blazers to realize Dames true value is to just bring Dame back, say publicly that we have Dame signed for four years and we will keep Dame unless he can give us more reasonable trade partners. A list of 5 teams. If Dame doesn’t like that, he can sit.

I’m not saying the Blazers should do that, just that’s the only way to grab leverage back. Either the Heat offer as big of an offer as that can, or actually hold Dame out.

of course Dame will never step foot in PDX again, but that the only way. After Dame sits a couple months, maybe other would be suitors would seem more attractive.

 

[wizenheimer]

His actual value is different than what we are going to get. The only way for the Blazers to realize Dames true value is to just bring Dame back, say publicly that we have Dame signed for four years and we will keep Dame unless he can give us more reasonable trade partners. A list of 5 teams. If Dame doesn’t like that, he can sit.

I’m not saying the Blazers should do that, just that’s the only way to grab leverage back. Either the Heat offer as big of an offer as that can, or actually hold Dame out.

of course Dame will never step foot in PDX again, but that the only way. After Dame sits a couple months, maybe other would be suitors would seem more attractive.

if he sits out, his value will go down, not up

 

[Whyachi]

if he sits out, his value will go down, not up

Miami won't put the best offer on the table right away. The Heat are very experienced trading for star players. The initial lowball offer was probably sickening. As we get closer to training camp, it's up to Miami to add more kickers as their interest in Lillard grows.

the latest rumor has Zach LaVine going to Miami instead of Lillard. Cheaper, taller, injury prone, not as good as Damian. Will the Zach rumor get Cronin back on the phone ?

 

[wizenheimer]

the latest rumor has Zach LaVine going to Miami instead of Lillard. Cheaper, taller, not as good as Damian. Will the Zach rumor get Cronin back on the phone ?

not with Miami

 

[Whyachi]

not with Miami

the mock trade made the rounds yesterday, long story short;
A Compelling Trade Package
Miami Heat receive:
Zach LaVine
2024 first-round pick

Chicago Bulls Receive:
Tyler Herro
Duncan Robinson
2023 first-round pick

(sorry I can't post a link, the pop ups are covering the share button) via ClutchPoints

 

[blazerkor]

the mock trade made the rounds yesterday, long story short;
A Compelling Trade Package
Miami Heat receive:
Zach LaVine
2024 first-round pick

Chicago Bulls Receive:
Tyler Herro
Duncan Robinson
2023 first-round pick

(sorry I can't post a link, the pop ups are covering the share button) via ClutchPoints

Does 2023 first-round pick just mean Jaques?

 

[PCmor7]

I say we just spike Dame's drink with so much Toradol he goes out and plays for us without even realizing it.

 

[Whyachi]

Does 2023 first-round pick just mean Jaques?

he's an awesome rookie, would look great in Portland, can't get traded until August. A Herro, Jovic, Jaquez, + picks is a fancy haul. Then Blazer fans can high five Cronin, and stop saying Lillard has ruined the Blazers future.

 

[Natebishop3]

he's an awesome rookie, would look great in Portland, can't get traded until August. A Herro, Jovic, Jaquez, + picks is a fancy haul. Then Blazer fans can high five Cronin, and stop saying Lillard has ruined the Blazers future.

Clearly you haven’t watched those players.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Windy and company just said Sochan will have to come from the bench for San Antonio. Another good prospect we could get if we sent Dame to the Spurs.

 

[Whyachi]

Clearly you haven’t watched those players.

no, I got it worse. I've been watching the Blazers

 

[Kano John]

the mock trade made the rounds yesterday, long story short;
A Compelling Trade Package
Miami Heat receive:
Zach LaVine
2024 first-round pick

Chicago Bulls Receive:
Tyler Herro
Duncan Robinson
2023 first-round pick

(sorry I can't post a link,the pop ups are covering the share button) via ClutchPoints

Good - I hope this goes through. Then Dame can either accept a trade to another team of the Blazers choice or stay with the Blazers and eat crow.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Windy and company just said Sochan will have to come from the bench for San Antonio. Another good prospect we could get if we sent Dame to the Spurs.

I'd do the trade for Sochan and 2 unprotected picks, ideally Atlanta/Bostons/etc. Probably have to eat some salary now since Spurs used cap space.

Sochan would be a great addition with the scoring of Scoot/Sharpe/Ant. Scottie Barnes would probably be my first target - but Sochan would be at the top of that list - possibly 2nd.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Doesn't everybody

Very true. But everybody isn't trading one of the best point guards andscorers in the league.

If we can't trade him for that we should just keep him.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Miami won't put the best offer on the table right away. The Heat are very experienced trading for star players. The initial lowball offer was probably sickening. As we get closer to training camp, it's up to Miami to add more kickers as their interest in Lillard grows.

the latest rumor has Zach LaVine going to Miami instead of Lillard. Cheaper, taller, injury prone, not as good as Damian. Will the Zach rumor get Cronin back on the phone ?

Nope. Don't care what else Miami can get. They can't have Lillard for that garbage.

Now, if they want to include that first round pick in a 3 way sending Dame someplace else (or Dame going to them with that pick and a lot more coming our way) that's fine.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

I'd do the trade for Sochan and 2 unprotected picks, ideally Atlanta/Bostons/etc. Probably have to eat some salary now since Spurs used cap space.

Sochan would be a great addition with the scoring of Scoot/Sharpe/Ant. Scottie Barnes would probably be my first target - but Sochan would be at the top of that list - possibly 2nd.

Is Scottie projecting to be the defensive player Sochan is? I think Scottie is the bigger talent but Sochan can be a greater connective piece ala Draymond.

 

[Further]

if he sits out, his value will go down, not up

If he sits out but realizes the only way he is traded is to let more teams bid, then his value goes up.

everyone knows how skilled Dame is, sitting won’t hurt his value much, unless it’s because of an obvious injury.

 

[Further]

Miami won't put the best offer on the table right away. The Heat are very experienced trading for star players. The initial lowball offer was probably sickening. As we get closer to training camp, it's up to Miami to add more kickers as their interest in Lillard grows.

the latest rumor has Zach LaVine going to Miami instead of Lillard. Cheaper, taller, injury prone, not as good as Damian. Will the Zach rumor get Cronin back on the phone ?

I doubt it. I’m guessing Cronin would love to see the Heat move on. It would force Dame to play ball and give multiple trade possibilities.

 

[Natebishop3]

It's crazy to me that a guy who just made an All-NBA team, averaged 32 ppg, and dropped 71 last season has no other suitors.

 

[Cugel]

Well let's just say Bam is clearly worth more than Dame. Same for Butler. MIA was never "all in" on Dame. They are Duncan Robinson in. That's it. Plenty of players have WAAAAAY more value than Dame. He's old and on a huge deal and is allergic to defense.

 

[Idog1976]

Dramatic much?

I dunno, that seems pretty accurate of an assessment the part about fucking over Portland and his value. I mean. **gestures broadly**.

 

[Idog1976]

I think 1-2 young prospects of say Clowney and Whitehead caliber and 2-4 mid-round FRPs. Which is to say, a lot more than Miami is offering.

 

[Idog1976]

I'd do the trade for Sochan and 2 unprotected picks, ideally Atlanta/Bostons/etc. Probably have to eat some salary now since Spurs used cap space.

Sochan would be a great addition with the scoring of Scoot/Sharpe/Ant. Scottie Barnes would probably be my first target - but Sochan would be at the top of that list - possibly 2nd.

I also like Eason, Thompson or Jabari Smith JR. any combination of two of them and one pick, or one of them and two FRPs. That I would do, as they are all good prospects.

Ive lowered how much I want for Dame and am starting to feel like anywhere but Miami even for a slight drop in value. While its tough to make an accurate valuation. I do feel like Miami fans and media tears are worth at least one, and perhaps two FRPs to me at this point.

 

[Whyachi]

It's crazy to me that a guy who just made an All-NBA team, averaged 32 ppg, and dropped 71 last season has no other suitors.

Cronin signed Lillard to the supermax extension. Now the Blazers are using Woj to tell the world Lillard is old and gets paid too much. How could saying that stuff improve the offers for Dame?

Cronin should have traded Lillard when he knew it was time for a rebuild. Getting stuck with Lillard's mega contract... that's on Cronin. The chumpy teams with all the picks don't want a supermax. Lillard has to go to a playoff squad, and the return will never be absurdly great value like it was when Damian was on expiring deal.

 

[inconceivable]

Dame's actual value is between Mitchell and Durant

He's not better, but he's younger than Durant.

He's not younger, but he's better than Mitchell.

 

[maxiep]

Right now, his value isn't much. At the trade deadline? I think it will be massive.