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I don't like the attitude people have of acting like a sissy whenever someone does or says something inappropriate. Yes, everybody knows saying that word on national television is a bad idea, but saying stuff like "it says a lot about you" if you don't care, if you equate with PC culture, it's so political and artifical sounding to me. Why do people who work at Burger King police their speech like they're in a runoff senate election, it's so funny to me.
It's called being a decent human being. Or maybe an intelligent human being? Expand your vocabulary beyond shitty offensive slurs maybe? If you're trying to call someone out and need to use words like retard, or sissy, I'd say it does, "say a lot about you". Nobody is sitting here clutching their pearls over it. Just language that is completely unnecessary to use.
 
I don't like the attitude people have of acting like a sissy whenever someone does or says something inappropriate. Yes, everybody knows saying that word on national television is a bad idea, but saying stuff like "it says a lot about you" if you don't care, if you equate with PC culture, it's so political and artifical sounding to me. Why do people who work at Burger King police their speech like they're in a runoff senate election, it's so funny to me.
Two words: Emotional intelligence.
 
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It's called being a decent human being. Or maybe an intelligent human being? Expand your vocabulary beyond shitty offensive slurs maybe? If you're trying to call someone out and need to use words like retard, or sissy, I'd say it does, "say a lot about you". Nobody is sitting here clutching their pearls over it. Just language that is completely unnecessary to use.
It's called jacking off to your own moral superiority. Everyone knows that you shouldn't say those words on national television. Somebody is bound to say "Well, thus is PC run amuck" which is wrong, but STILL, after like 6 years of this horseshit, people still need to act like they're sat at the right hand of God because they take grave offense to things and others don't. It's ridiculous to me, as someone who remembers what a conversation was like before 2016.

"It's called being a decent human being."

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I hope you've got a towel like Lou at least.

Edit: Did I even say "retard" in my post? I don't use that word anymore because I work with special needs children for a living. I did before, but don't now, but not based on any stupid societal pressure. Age, maturity.
 
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Two words: Emotional intelligence.
How do we quantify these things online? When people are frantically typing their I am outraged and I am crying speeches, waiting to get their likes and admiration? I can judge somebody based on how they interact with these sort of situations in real life, but I haven't read someone just be truthful (not in a right wing, tell it like it is grift way) online in years. You get it sometimes in real life, in private conversations with friends, but online? Gimmick accounts regurgitate whatever gets up votes.
 
How do we quantify these things online? When people are frantically typing their I am outraged and I am crying speeches, waiting to get their likes and admiration? I can judge somebody based on how they interact with these sort of situations in real life, but I haven't read someone just be truthful (not in a right wing, tell it like it is grift way) online in years. You get it sometimes in real life, in private conversations with friends, but online? Gimmick accounts regurgitate whatever gets up votes.
Or maybe some people are actually good people in real life.
 
It's called jacking off to your own moral superiority. Everyone knows that you shouldn't say those words on national television. Somebody is bound to say "Well, thus is PC run amuck" which is wrong, but STILL, after like 6 years of this horseshit, people still need to act like they're sat at the right hand of God because they take grave offense to things and others don't. It's ridiculous to me, as someone who remembers what a conversation was like before 2016.

"It's called being a decent human being."

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I hope you've got a towel like Lou at least.
So were your pre-2016 conversations just filled with slurs, calling people retards and fags and sissies and what not and now you're bummed you can no longer do that? Sounds...fun? Nobody is taking "grave offense". But do you. You wanna use slurs and insult minorities, go for it!
 
So were your pre-2016 conversations just filled with slurs, calling people retards and fags and sissies and what not and now you're bummed you can no longer do that? Sounds...fun? Nobody is taking "grave offense". But do you. You wanna use slurs and insult minorities, go for it!
No? Why do I need to represent some outdated right wing caricature for you to even engage with the point I'm making about fake moral outrage? Did every conversation you have revolve around bad words and making fun of others pre 2016? Mine didn't, they never did. But I never policed anybody for what they said about anything in day to day conversations as if I was writing press release statements for Walmart. It was more honest. I swear people nowadays have an invisible gun to their heads that will go off if they say something that you can't say on Morning Joe.
 
And the moon is made of cheese, and the streets are paved with gold.
Bullshit. I've met several people from this very board that are just great people. @dviss1 , @Chris Craig , @PtldPlatypus, @SlyPokerDog are good people. Is anyone a perfect human being? Hell no. But I refuse to just give in to some mediocre nihilistic vision of humanity. As a species, we have been out of the damned stone-age for thousands of years. We can strive for some better standards. And I will never apologize for trying to be the best version of myself. If that bothers you, I suppose you can go inhale a fart somewhere. Peace.
 
Bullshit. I've met several people from this very board that are just great people. @dviss1 , @Chris Craig , @PtldPlatypus, @SlyPokerDog are good people. Is anyone a perfect human being? Hell no. But I refuse to just give in to some mediocre nihilistic vision of humanity. As a species, we have been out of the damned stone-age for thousands of years. We can strive for some better standards. And I will never apologize for trying to be the nest version of myself. If that bothers you, I suppose you can go inhale a fart somewhere. Peace.
I have no idea what this means, or why you tagged people that I have zero problem with, but I am starting to tear up, and I did give you a like, so it surely must be powerful.
 
I have no idea what this means, or why you tagged people that I have zero problem with, but I am starting to tear up, and I did give you a like, so it surely must be powerful.
They were examples of good people in real life, which you claimed as Bullshit. And I'm not surprised you don't have a problem with them, because they are good people. Like I implied.
 
No? Why do I need to represent some outdated right wing caricature for you to even engage with the point I'm making about fake moral outrage? Did every conversation you have revolve around bad words and making fun of others pre 2016? Mine didn't, they never did. But I never policed anybody for what they said about anything in day to day conversations as if I was writing press release statements for Walmart. It was more honest. I swear people nowadays have an invisible gun to their heads that will go off if they say something that you can't say on Morning Joe.
How is it fake moral outrage? Again, I don't see anyone being "outraged" here. Just that there's things that people shouldn't say. And people stating that. I'm not fake in thinking if someone is sad that they can't call someone a retard, that I think that person is a piece of shit.
I just can't imagine hanging out with friends and hearing any of them calling people retards or fags or whatever other slurs you wanna add in and either not calling them on it. It's not fake moral outrage. It's not trying to "police" someone. I just wouldn't want to associate and call a friend someone that would use something like that so casually.
If the only way you're able to not use slurs is by having the "invisible gun to your head" or running for politics, once again, that really does say a lot about that person. If in casual conversation, it comes casually, that person is insensitive at best. More "honest" seems like you have casual bigots or racists in your circle that speak freely and aren't called on it.
 
They were examples of good people in real life, which you claimed as Bullshit. And I'm not surprised you don't have a problem with them, because they are good people. Like I implied.
But...but I said that you will find good people in real life to have honest conversations with? Like...people here are invited to a members funeral, this isn't Twitter, like where the majority of these reaction seekers go to for their morality dopamine hit. I don't believe everyone here is going for that, but the dog pile on the user who said it was a part of feminist or whatever agenda looks like lightswitch brain political dog piling to me. I don't know how this lukewarm take made me the Adolf in the room.
 
More "honest" seems like you have casual bigots or racists in your circle that speak freely and aren't called on it.
I have a group of friends with their own flaws. I don't call them out when they say something off kilter, because real life isn't Reddit. I will not be given a gold badge. Nobody will be crying or clapping. They're mostly buddies I met doing construction work before I went to school. A strange mixture of Croatians and Newfoundlanders. You can imagine that they say some wild things and make some inappropriate comments, especially when the BTs start going around. Again, I'm not from a big city, or the upper classes, so I don't start makeshift struggle sessions when someone goes off script after 14 hours of non union drywalling.
 
But...but I said that you will find good people in real life to have honest conversations with? Like...people here are invited to a members funeral, this isn't Twitter, like where the majority of these reaction seekers go to for their morality dopamine hit. I don't believe everyone here is going for that, but the dog pile on the user who said it was a part of feminist or whatever agenda looks like lightswitch brain political dog piling to me. I don't know how this lukewarm take made me the Adolf in the room.
I'm just having a gentle debate with you. There is no outrage. I'll add that this has actually been a decent back and forth without unnecessary name calling or the like. I just think, we as humans, can and should strive to be better. That is the crux of my beliefs.
 
I have a group of friends with their own flaws. I don't call them out when they say something off kilter, because real life isn't Reddit. I will not be given a gold badge. Nobody will be crying or clapping. They're mostly buddies I met doing construction work before I went to school. A strange mixture of Croatians and Newfoundlanders. You can imagine that they say some wild things and make some inappropriate comments, especially when the BTs start going around. Again, I'm not from a big city, or the upper classes, so I don't start makeshift struggle sessions when someone goes off script after 14 hours of non union drywalling.
I'm far from upper class, just have no place for bigots in my life. Life's too short to spend it with close minded people, for me.
 
I'm far from upper class, just have no place for bigots in my life. Life's too short to spend it with close minded people, for me.
Sames. I'm from a tiny depressed lumber mill town in Southern Oregon. There was no privilege or upper class to speak of.
 
I'm just having a gentle debate with you. There is no outrage. I'll add that this has actually been a decent back and forth without unnecessary name calling or the like. I just think, we as humans, can and should strive to be better. That is the crux of my beliefs.
You're telling me to eat farts or something, which is totally fine don't get me wrong lmao I don't want to be a hypocrite, but something happens in these conversations where one side starts foaming at the mouth and projecting whatever their political enemies are onto the other person, it's as if that's the only way they know how to engage with others. I'm cool with your view, I don't even really disagree with it, it's not like I'm saying Tim should be able to say it, just calling out how unnatural these reactions can sound sometimes online, again, like a corporation releasing a press statement.
 
You're telling me to eat farts or something, which is totally fine don't get me wrong lmao I don't want to be a hypocrite, but something happens in these conversations where one side starts foaming at the mouth and projecting whatever their political enemies are onto the other person, it's as if that's the only way they know how to engage with others. I'm cool with your view, I don't even really disagree with it, it's not like I'm saying Tim should be able to say it, just calling out how unnatural these reactions can sound sometimes online, again, like a corporation releasing a press statement.
I was trying to bring humor into the situation with the fart line. It wasn't very funny though. Can't win em all.
 
I guess he won’t be getting another broadcasting gig anytime soon.


I don't think he ever had or was looking for one, this was a one off. The W's had him, Mitch and Chris behind the mike for one game celebrating their time with the franchise.

The best part was hearing Mullin in his thick Brooklyn accent reading the promotional bumps.

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I'm far from upper class, just have no place for bigots in my life. Life's too short to spend it with close minded people, for me.
I don't really care, I never have. I love people who think outside the box. Will never forget the random black Israelite who stopped by my house as I was smoking a joint on the patio and asked if he could smoke there too, apparently he was attending a wedding. The conversation went from white people being created in a laboratory to casinos having no windows so you forget about time. You just don't get that level of variety with people who have post 2016 acceptable dialogue shock collars on. Keep talking to the same people for the rest of your life, I guess.
 
I don't really care, I never have. I love people who think outside the box. Will never forget the random black Israelite who stopped by my house as I was smoking a joint on the patio and asked if he could smoke there too, apparently he was attending a wedding. The conversation went from white people being created in a laboratory to casinos having no windows so you forget about time. You just don't get that level of variety with people who have post 2016 acceptable dialogue shock collars on. Keep talking to the same people for the rest of your life, I guess.
Being truly open minded (to me at least) means seeing people for their faults and engaging them on why they are that way instead of just shouting them down or shutting them out. Places like this can become an echo chamber for one way of thinking and it gets to be that anyone with a different viewpoint will get shouted down enough that they just quit saying anything.

As someone that has spent over a decade talking into a microphone as a main part of my job (and now also to students) it's not always a "think before you speak" situation, sometimes going off the cuff, especially on live tv, it's understandable why people not trained to do the job, say things that are off color. Hell, people trained to do the job sometimes say things they shouldn't because you don't have time to pour over every word and make sure it's perfect. Thankfully I've never found myself in the situation that Hardway has, and he should have been a little more careful with his words given his past transgressions, but this isn't the end of the world, though it may be the end of his broadcasting days!
 
people get offended by everything these days, its like you have to think before you say anything, otherwise you might find yourself in trouble

feminist shit, woke & cancel culture are pissing me off
is thinking hard for you? Is that what’s really pissing you off?
 
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theres difference in insulting someone and when someone finds something as an insult

if i say to someone: "fuck you", thats an insult, but if i say: "that was retarded thing to do", someone might find it insulting

obviously, when you insult someone, you should be prepared for consequences, but i dont think you should be in trouble if you say something and someone finds it as an insult and nowadays, people find everything as an insult
If you make money by people sending you payments you should be prepared for the day they decide to stop sending it.

You can't just force someone to keep paying you once they no longer like what you stand for.
 
I have no idea what this means, or why you tagged people that I have zero problem with, but I am starting to tear up, and I did give you a like, so it surely must be powerful.
Not taking sides here, but this was funny.

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