What needs to be changed

[kjironman1]

Ok. I checked his plus-minus. When he played we were down 10, when he was sitting we were up 2

Actually at the end of the game when he was playing they lost by 7. There is the only plus minus that makes any difference.
Take care. Enjoy your thread.

 

[wizenheimer]

Ok. I checked his plus-minus. When he played we were down 10, when he was sitting we were up 2

+/- for a single game is such a stupid fucking stat

Dame was -6; Zach was +4. who played better tonight? using your logic Dame should sit the next game and Zach should run the offense

 

[Blazer4ever]

+/- for a single game is such a stupid fucking stat

Dame was -6; Zach was +4. who played better tonight? using your logic Dame should sit the next game and Zach should run the offense

How exactly is it a stupid stat? Explain this logic. You'll see in all my posts that I'm advocating playing Zach more, that the team does better with him on the floor. That's meaningless to you?

 

[hoopsjock]

Im honestly not... I am not even that upset, were missing our second best player and I expect the Blazers to still make it a series, but I really look at our roster and I don't think we can guard them. If we get more from our forwards we might be able to just out score them. Their defense isnt very good either.

They also shot over 41% from 3.

 

[swish3]

Sure bring in the absolute worst stat around to make some kind of argument to try and feel like you have a point. He scored 26 points and grabbed 7 rebounds in a game that they were in a position to compete in at the end.
He did it with a separated shoulder. Try to keep up here. The Blazers don't have any more centers other than Meyers and Collins and Skal. None of them will bring what Kanter brings.

Enes had an excellent game with 26 points on 11 of 14 FG shooting and 7 rebounds. But with the injury he could have been supplemented with more min from Meyers who played well in only 12 min. Resting Enes and adding stronger hustle defense would have made us even more competitive, adding 8+ points that would have made us the winner. Meyers and Zach (with excellent contributions by Rod) can add determined defense, fresh energy, boost the scoring by Dame, CJ, and Enes, and help us win 4 over DEN.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

They also shot over 41% from 3.

I think thats something they can replicate unless the Blazers make them take tougher shots.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

The starting five simply isn't working. If we had a coach who is inept enough to make adjustments he would notice that. Having Zach in worked until they inserted Plumlee and played with 2 bigs but as long as Milsap is in the game we need Zach there as well.
If Enes Kanter who is already a very poor defender can't lift his arms above the shoulders maybe it's even better for the team that he doesn't play at all.
I wish I could think that Stotts could see some of that and make adjustments but he's fucking worthless, best case scenario: we lose in 5

We played like a team that’s been sitting a week and with a center that has an injury. We were off. Turnovers showed this. I really don’t think Denver is all that great.

Adjustments:

Turner played well against Milsap. Collins played decent. Both Aminu and Harkless were out of sorts - especially Aminu!

Somehow I think our small forward player can hurt them; Hood did well. Maybe Jake should get some burn. Unfortunately, Harkless may not be the best for this series. He poses no offensive threat.

More...I like Leonard’s minutes as he’s able to put a body on Jokic. He might be able to wear him down a bit. Their larger guards rendered Curry useless.

Finally, CJ needs to come out aggressive. I predict we win each game whereby CJ outscores Dame and/or Aminu scores 18+ points.

PS: Kanter is impressive! Great game by him.

 

[KingSpeed]

Start Hood for Harkless. They’re trying to hide Murray on our small forward. Harkless is too shitty to take advantage.

Harkless was stellar in Game 5, especially in the last 7 minutes. No need to rock the boat now just because of one loss.

 

[B-Roy]

Put Kanter on Millsap and Aminu on Jokic.

 

[wizenheimer]

How exactly is it a stupid stat? Explain this logic. You'll see in all my posts that I'm advocating playing Zach more, that the team does better with him on the floor. That's meaningless to you?

plus/minus for any single game has way too much noise to draw any conclusions from. A player who logs 10 minutes, has 1 rebound and 0 points can often have better +/- then a player who plays 36 minutes and score 40 points on 60% shooting. For instance, on Mar 7, Dame scored 51 point and had 9 assists. Mo scored 2 points and had 3 rebounds. Dame had a -5 in 47 minutes; Mo had a + 6 in 21 minutes. The plus/minus was worthless

but since you're a Zach fan who loves plus/minus, you can have the net on-off plus/minus for the OKC series:

Damian Lillard +37.5
Meyers Leonard +12.9
Al-Farouq Aminu +9.7
Enes Kanter +8.1
Maurice Harkless +7.7
CJ McCollum +5.3
Seth Curry 0.0
Rodney Hood -12.0
Evan Turner -19.9
Zach Collins -32.1

how do you like plus/minus now?

 

[PDXFonz]

By the looks of it I’d say lots of diapers!

 

[ehizzy3]

If they put Murray on harmless again we need moe to be more active on the offensive boards

Edit: harkless* ironic autocorrect

 

[BonesJones]

You can't make this shit up. Kanter played really well and your big solution is to not play him.

This is why no one respects your posts.

This dudes threads are moronic at best.

 

[BonesJones]

Enes had an excellent game with 26 points on 11 of 14 FG shooting and 7 rebounds. But with the injury he could have been supplemented with more min from Meyers who played well in only 12 min. Resting Enes and adding stronger hustle defense would have made us even more competitive, adding 8+ points that would have made us the winner. Meyers and Zach (with excellent contributions by Rod) can add determined defense, fresh energy, boost the scoring by Dame, CJ, and Enes, and help us win 4 over DEN.

How exactly does resting a guy who had 26 points on 11 for 14 lead to 8 more points?

Oh yeah, youre swish3, nevermind.

 

[BonesJones]

If we don't make brutal changes we lose in 5 and I'm being generous

You're being ridiculous.

 

[borim69]

They played like a 2 seed home team should play. We had 18 turnovers they had 12 we shot a piss poor 74% from the charity and they shot 87% this is where we lost the game. We out rebounded them got more steals and 5 blocks we cant really ask too much more for a good showing. They went to the line 4 more times then we did. If we lost the ball 3 less times and made 4 more charity shots or any combination thereof we win. This loss has nothing to do with Stotts this loss is all on who was on the court. Blazers were a 80% + charity shot through the regular season. We should take game 2

 

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[BlazerWookee]

Biggest change we need to make: Stop missing free throws.

 

[Sarni]

How exactly does resting a guy who had 26 points on 11 for 14 lead to 8 more points?

Oh yeah, youre swish3, nevermind.

We would have let Meyers shoot eight swish3s s and he's guaranteed to score half of them meaning 12 extra points and a win.

 

[kjironman1]

Enes had an excellent game with 26 points on 11 of 14 FG shooting and 7 rebounds. But with the injury he could have been supplemented with more min from Meyers who played well in only 12 min. Resting Enes and adding stronger hustle defense would have made us even more competitive, adding 8+ points that would have made us the winner. Meyers and Zach (with excellent contributions by Rod) can add determined defense, fresh energy, boost the scoring by Dame, CJ, and Enes, and help us win 4 over DEN.

On this one in this series against the Nuggets with Kanter hurt. I agree with you on this. Meyers needs to be playing and he needs to take those shots we all know he can make. Then when they start guarding him he needs to make good timely passes to open shooters or guys cutting to the basket. Meyers and Turner play well with Jake also. He might just be a small adjustment that can make a difference here and there? Just not sure i would take any more minutes from Kanter unless he can't go.

 

[HailBlazers]

Biggest change we need to make: Stop missing free throws.

If they put Murray on harmless again we need moe to be more active on the offensive boards

Swear the mile high was affecting us. Short on shots and unable to get up for rebounds.

 

[milona]

What needs to be changed is your attitude. One away loss to a higher ranked team and we suddenly suck, Stotts does not know anything, Kanter is a liability etc. etc. Stotts is Stotts and Nurkic is not coming back this year, so deal with it. The team sure does.

CJ and Aminu had a horrible game that should auto correct itself. (Kanter and Hood had great performances and that will auto regress too ) I also would like to think the refereeing can't get any worse and Dame can shoot better at 3. Overall, we have more room to improve and we will.

Portland has a knack for keeping things close and stressful. I expect all games from now on to be close, win or lose. Not that it will happen, but don't be surprised if we become the first team coming from a 3-0 hole. We can't close games but we don't give up either.

 

[Blazer4ever]

I almost forgot why I hardly post here anymore, try answering the points I make instead of trying to insult me, because you don't.

Bottom line, we couldn't get any stops, we surrendered 120 in a playoff game, our two starting forwards had the worst plus minus on the team, Milsap scored on them at will and they gave us nothing offensively. Kanter didn't give us even one stop against Jokic, not even one. We can try to outscore them but they don't say defense wins championships for no reason. We need to make major adjustments before the next game or all the geniuses here would prove me wrong until we're swept out of the playoffs

 

[James lamphear]

Adjustment I would make is play Hood with the 1st unit more to take advantage his height on Murray. If Harkless is in there attempt to get him the ball on Murray too. No I don't blame Stotts on this lost but I question his decision making sometimes in games. Last night you take hot Hood out replace him with Harkless that didn't do much all night long. Then you put Harkless on Jokic with 4 fouls on him and eventually foul out. Aminu or Harkless not big to guard someone like Jokic. Then he puts Curry another player that hasn't done nothing all night long and leave the hot man Hood on the bench. This was totally was team lost from coach on down.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I almost forgot why I hardly post here anymore, try answering the points I make instead of trying to insult me, because you don't.

Bottom line, we couldn't get any stops, we surrendered 120 in a playoff game, our two starting forwards had the worst plus minus on the team, Milsap scored on them at will and they gave us nothing offensively. Kanter didn't give us even one stop against Jokic, not even one. We can try to outscore them but they don't say defense wins championships for no reason. We need to make major adjustments before the next game or all the geniuses here would prove me wrong until we're swept out of the playoffs

I know it's not popular on here but in some ways, I agree with you. Though I think Kanter has consistently been good at least on offense and rebounding and the Blazers need him out there. Adjustments need to be made defensively, whether it's lineup changes or just scheme. I thought going into this series that we would really Miss Nurkic, but even with Nurkic stopping Denver is a hard task. It is one game though, it might be too early to make radical changes. The one thing the Blazers can't do vs Denver is beat themselves, so many self-imposed wounds between turnovers, missing ft's, not boxing out, not taking open shots when they had them there is a lot of "fixable" things in there that can tip a series. I'm sure Denver feels like they could've played better too. The objective for the road team in the playoffs is getting one of the 1st two, let's see what they do in Game 2.

 

[kjironman1]

I almost forgot why I hardly post here anymore, try answering the points I make instead of trying to insult me, because you don't.

Bottom line, we couldn't get any stops, we surrendered 120 in a playoff game, our two starting forwards had the worst plus minus on the team, Milsap scored on them at will and they gave us nothing offensively. Kanter didn't give us even one stop against Jokic, not even one. We can try to outscore them but they don't say defense wins championships for no reason. We need to make major adjustments before the next game or all the geniuses here would prove me wrong until we're swept out of the playoffs

Honestly you are not wrong on a few changes. But "MAJOR ADJUSTMENTS" comes off as reactionary instead of responsive. It's a road game against a team they should not beat in Denver. Getting a win in this series will be tough. Getting one on the road will be very tough. Gonna take a lights out shooting night and solid defense all around.

 

[Chris Craig]

Blazers lose one game and...

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Blazers lose one game and...

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I dont get why people are saying that or pushing the meltdown thread, people are saying the gameplan for game 1 didnt seem to work, and offering ideas for changing it... I havent seen any posts that make me think anyone is losing it, could just be my perspective though.

 

[hoopsjock]

I almost forgot why I hardly post here anymore, try answering the points I make instead of trying to insult me, because you don't.

Bottom line, we couldn't get any stops, we surrendered 120 in a playoff game, our two starting forwards had the worst plus minus on the team, Milsap scored on them at will and they gave us nothing offensively. Kanter didn't give us even one stop against Jokic, not even one. We can try to outscore them but they don't say defense wins championships for no reason. We need to make major adjustments before the next game or all the geniuses here would
prove me wrong until we're swept out of the playoffs

I know it's not popular on here but in some ways, I agree with you. Though I think Kanter has consistently been good at least on offense and rebounding and the Blazers need him out there. Adjustments need to be made defensively, whether it's lineup changes or just scheme. I thought going into this series that we would really Miss Nurkic, but even with Nurkic stopping Denver is a hard task. It is one game though, it might be too early to make radical changes. The one thing the Blazers can't do vs Denver is beat themselves, so many self-imposed wounds between turnovers, missing ft's, not boxing out, not taking open shots when they had them there is a lot of "fixable" things in there that can tip a series. I'm sure Denver feels like they could've played better too. The objective for the road team in the playoffs is getting one of the 1st two, let's see what they do in Game 2.

Adjustments are needed in every playoff series. Usually adjustments don't involve blaming our 2nd best player when that guy was one of only 3 players that actually showed up last night.

The fact is that the Blazers are 22-8 since we signed Kanter, which is over a 70% win percentage and many of those games have been without Nurk and/or CJ. Jokic shot 61% from the field (51% during the regular season), 60% from 3 (30% during the regular season), and 100% on 12 free throws (82% during the regular season). He had a great game. We lost a road game to a really good team. Now is not the time to panic. We need to tighten up our defense quite a bit but what I saw was correctable.

The bottom line is we had 18 turnovers that led to 23 points for Denver. Several of which were bad passes that gave Denver fast breaks, open shots, and mismatches because our defense wasn't set. The Nuggets had 12 turnovers and we only scored 6 points off those 12 turnovers. The Blazers will be hard pressed to win many games with that big of a deficit in points off turnovers. They're hard to match up with to begin with, we can't let our sloppy offense contribute to our average defense.

 

[Rhal]

There isn't much we need to do different offensively. Aminue/Harkless/CJ all had subpar games but we saw that the role players can get open 3's relatively easy, the amount of open 3's Aminu passed up was astounding, and attacking the paint on a quick slash or rolling/cutting to the paint all resulted in good looks. If we are deep in the paint they collapse and leave open shooters on the wings, if we get an O rebound the bigs might want to look to pass it out in game two. The big problems with our D came from O rebounds where we had trouble resetting our D afterwords as well as transition D. Jokic needs to be bodied and forced to exert effort on every shot, to many open looks from 2, don't care if he wants to shoot the 3 he is bad at it and if he hits them well you gotta live with that. A big problem was Murray was able to get open on the PnR just about everytime becasue we were more worried about Jokic then him and i'm not so sure we should be.