What needs to be changed

[illmatic99]

In his original post he actually suggested that maybe it would be better if Kanter didn't play at all. Then you wonder why people are jumping on him instead of recognizing his points? C'mon man, even you just said you wouldn't bench Kanter.

The Thunder scored 120 and 115 in two of the five games but the other three games we held them under 100. I don't think Kanter did that bad on Jokic inside. It was more about poor decision making when Jokic was involved in pick and rolls by everyone including Kanter. If that isn't cleaned up it doesn't really matter who is guarding him. This is a correctable problem, we'll see if it gets better in game 2. I think Aminu on Milsap is fine if he just stands his ground. Milsap uses the art of pump fakes spin moves to get his shots. Aminu needs to make him take jumpers with a hand in his face instead of falling for those pump fakes.

Don't see the need for vitriol-- dude was just offering an opinion.

 

[kjironman1]

Sorry, here are the answers to your points.



Inept people can't make adjustments, because they are inept. I believe you meant adept. This a concern that is raised every single game by forum experts -which has some truth- , when things are not going right, yet here we are in the second round of playoff. I am sure I heard we were going to be swept by OKC. Adams was going to destroy Kanter.



He had flashy moments but he was not a monster. "Worked" is a relative term. His offensive deficiencies and silly mistakes take away most of what you see "working". Sure I would love to have everyone's best attributes on the field all the time but we are allowed to have only 5 players at a time.



Some things stick. Someone you know very well may be seen as a horrible forum poster. But every now and then, he may post logical things.
Enes is doing a respectable job before and after the injury on defense. His defense is not a strong suit, but not bad considering what he brings on offense, you just need to be a competent and fair observer to see that he is improved rather than gushing over his potential replacement aka Collins. He may become as decent as Kanter in a few years, or he may not. He is not now. Anyone who is not blind or obsessed can see that.

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No one denies we had a horrible defense as a team and forwards were unbearable to watch but we write that as an off night. CJ should and would get better. Aminu and Harkless are not known to be offensive juggernauts. When your injured replacement of the third (second?) best player on the team can shoot with a much higher percentage than the All Star best player of the other team, you don't complain about his defense. You cheer for him.

This game came down to two things. Outside Dame, Enes and Hood we shot very poorly and defended even worse and still lost by single digit due to a late meltdown. Otherwise, we would be talking about sweeping the "trash" Nuggets right now.

Very nice work. You have more patience than i when it comes to responding to posts. I used to have it but i went away when i got older and grumpier.

 

[kjironman1]

No. I would put him on millsap and let Aminu try to wrestle with Jokic. As I said in the other thread.

But I would also try to go super small for some possessions with no center and speed up the game and get super switchy.

The Blazers (Stotts) did that in the second half and had some success with it. It will happen again i'm certain.

 

[dviss1]

I almost forgot why I hardly post here anymore, try answering the points I make instead of trying to insult me, because you don't.

Bottom line, we couldn't get any stops, we surrendered 120 in a playoff game, our two starting forwards had the worst plus minus on the team, Milsap scored on them at will and they gave us nothing offensively. Kanter didn't give us even one stop against Jokic, not even one. We can try to outscore them but they don't say defense wins championships for no reason. We need to make major adjustments before the next game or all the geniuses here would prove me wrong until we're swept out of the playoffs

No one's insulting you.

You post outlandish bullshit all the time. We're talking about Your posts.

Also, when you say you know more about basketball than most in the forum and then come with the opinions you come with, it's hard to take you seriously.

Take your lumps...

 

[dviss1]

Not sure why everyone is jumping on him in this thread. He's not exactly wrong. Kanter contested exactly 0 shots in the game. He scored a bunch and was vital on that end of the floor, but we are losing the game on defense.

He doesn't watch games and he's said he's basically the smartest poster in here...

Hence my question.

 

[twobullz]

I think if the Blazers take better care of the ball, everything else will work itself out. Get the turnover number down closer to 10 and the Blazers move on.

 

[Rhal]

Jokic is bad at threes huh.
Career 34% from that range.
Sure he shot 30% this year, but he nearly shot 40% last year.
I wouldn't say that's bad.

He had one year were he hit damn near 40%, when you look at his other 3 years its easy to come to the conclusion that that one year was a blip. He needs to hit a few more from deep before respecting his shot otherwise i'm looking a this 3 attempts much like I did WBs, if he hits them he hits them but I don't mind him taking them.

 

[Hoopguru]

Yes sir! 7 game series.
Lets get game two!

 

[stampedehero]

The starting five simply isn't working. If we had a coach who is inept enough to make adjustments he would notice that. Having Zach in worked until they inserted Plumlee and played with 2 bigs but as long as Milsap is in the game we need Zach there as well.
If Enes Kanter who is already a very poor defender can't lift his arms above the shoulders maybe it's even better for the team that he doesn't play at all.
I wish I could think that Stotts could see some of that and make adjustments but he's fucking worthless, best case scenario: we lose in 5

Can't give you a like for a lose in 5. However, Nokic is that good. The coaches decision to sit Skal & ML most of the season had little benefit and unfortunately we can't counter with big men against Nokic and Plumlee. For me, the biggest waste of time is ET as the point guard, He is scared to shoot. A one dimensional player is exactly what the Nuggets wanted. What happened to Jake? Is he a phantom? Got to say that Nokic is exceptional.

 

[Natebishop3]

Cut their points off turnovers in half, make a few extra free throws and this is an easy win.

 

[Strenuus]

This thread is going to age well.

 

[Natebishop3]

This thread is going to age well.

About as well as all our old man saggy testicles.

 

[Strenuus]

About as well as all our old man saggy testicles.

Oh god the pictures that will come from this...

 

[H.C.]

He had one year were he hit damn near 40%, when you look at his other 3 years its easy to come to the conclusion that that one year was a blip. He needs to hit a few more from deep before respecting his shot otherwise i'm looking a this 3 attempts much like I did WBs, if he hits them he hits them but I don't mind him taking them.

You could say that 30% from 3 this year is a blip and hes closer to his career average of 34% from three.
His shot looks really good from out there unlike Westbrick.

 

[CupWizier]

Correct me if I’m wrong but they lost 1) to a higher seed 2) on the road 3) in a close game. So let’s panic and blow it up.

Plus Denver has the best home record in the league. They only lost 7 games all year at home.

 

[Natebishop3]

Plus Denver has the best home record in the league. They only lost 7 games all year at home.

That's because their altitude is the most bullshit HCA in all of sports.

 

[Rhal]

You could say that 30% from 3 this year is a blip and hes closer to his career average of 34% from three.
His shot looks really good from out there unlike Westbrick.

30.7 is much much closer to his other two years of 33% and 32.4% while 40% is so much higher that is abnormal in the extreme. You could argue that his near 40% year was the year he was taking more shots and is a bigger sample size then the other two but you could also argue that teams did not scout him as a 3p shooter and it was more of a surprise that caught the league off guard for a year, then teams started adding his 3p shot to his profile and the next year the league was ready for him hence the drop down to 30%.
Another small sample size is he was 10 of 30 from 3 against the spurs shooting about his season average.
Regardless of what conclusions we both draw I want him taking the 3's until he proves he can make them and it wasn't a one game hot streak and you think that is a bad idea.

 

[OneSport3]

Jokic consistently gets away with forearm shoves while a player is driving to the basket. There was the blatant one against Kanter in the first half right in front of Ken Mauer that nearly pushed him out of bounds. There was another one against Dame when they were making a run that caused Dame to miss the lay-up.

He got away with these constantly in the Spurs series also. There was a play where he hit Derrick White in the face right in front of the ref and wasn't called. I have no idea why/how is not getting called for these.

 

[oldmangrouch]

What we need is a healthy Nurk and at least one new starter at forward.

 

[Hoopguru]

Id like to see us go right at Jokic more because he will reach and foul.
Besides Dame & Hood I didn't see our forwards taking it to the hoop much to draw fouls.

 

[H.C.]

30.7 is much much closer to his other two years of 33% and 32.4% while 40% is so much higher that is abnormal in the extreme. You could argue that his near 40% year was the year he was taking more shots and is a bigger sample size then the other two but you could also argue that teams did not scout him as a 3p shooter and it was more of a surprise that caught the league off guard for a year, then teams started adding his 3p shot to his profile and the next year the league was ready for him hence the drop down to 30%.
Another small sample size is he was 10 of 30 from 3 against the spurs shooting about his season average.
Regardless of what conclusions we both draw I want him taking the 3's until he proves he can make them and it wasn't a one game hot streak and you think that is a bad idea.

I simply said his career average of 34% isn't a bad 3 point shooter.
Even pointed out that he was 40% one year and is 30% this year.
Don't put words in my mouth.

 

[beast blazer]

The referees. We win game 1 with good officiating. Uninjuring nurk would help too.

 

[Natebishop3]

The referees. We win game 1 with good officiating. Uninjuring nurk would help too.

I disagree. It wasn't the refs.

It was the 23 points off of turnovers that they scored. Cut that in half and we win.

 

[H.C.]

I disagree. It wasn't the refs.

It was the 23 points off of turnovers that they scored. Cut that in half and we win.

Which has pretty much been the recipe to beating Portland all year.
Force them into turnovers.
Where Portland's recipe for winning has been limiting their turnovers.
Nuggets did it in game 1. We'll see if Portland can counter in game 2.

 

[Cugel]

There were a lot of plain awful passes by, pretty much, everyone. That is not acceptable.

 

[Natebishop3]

The other thing is, not only did we turn the ball over more, but we did a HORRIBLE job of converting those turnovers into points.

 

[HailBlazers]

About as well as Kenny Mauer's saggy testicles.

FTFy

 

[LayneStaley]

Imo we are in good position, we lost by 8 points on the road while our Starting forwards combined for 4pts and 6 turnovers. Playoff Chief isn’t getting 2 points tomorrow and Moe isn’t getting ZERO rebounds.

 

[Natebishop3]

Imo we are in good position, we lost by 8 points on the road while our Starting forwards combined for 4pts and 6 turnovers. Playoff Chief isn’t getting 2 points tomorrow and Moe isn’t getting ZERO rebounds.

It's not even that. We put up plenty of points and we shot a good percentage.

We need them to stop making stupid mistakes and turnovers.

 

[LayneStaley]

It's not even that. We put up plenty of points and we shot a good percentage.

We need them to stop making stupid mistakes and turnovers.

I agree the turnovers killed us but my point was if those guys put up half of what they have been doing in the playoffs we would of won even with the turnovers. Not saying they are the reason we lost. I think we are in fine position, clean up the mistakes and get everyone involved and I expect a win tomorrow.