<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Jul 16 2008, 02:24 PM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nets1 @ Jul 16 2008, 12:48 PM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>problem is vc doesn't like to run period. He had Jason Kidd and RJ who love to run and vince doesn't and still doesn't like to run. So most likely unless vc gets injured, the nets will do mostly half court sets.</div>
Nets1, I'm not aiming this reply particularly at you but rather using your post as a jumping off point to address some misconceptions about VC's game.
I wonder how it's possible for Vince to get all those hilight reel fast break alley-oops, dunks, and fancy layups we see on ESPN if he never runs? Also, has anyone ever tried to chart the number of times he's assisted a fast break basket with a pass or hit the open 3 as a fastbreak trailer whose role was to space the floor and make the opponent pay for guarding the paint at the expense of the perimeter?
Cliches are easy. Honest evaluation is tough because it requires work and attention.
Vince is not Richard Jefferson. He's not going to immediately release in an all-out sprint every time the opponent misses a shot, partly because he is mindful that you can't fast break until you secure a rebound. (Consider his rebounding numbers in relation to the Kittles and Jeffersons of the world before lamenting that he "doesn't run".)
That said, it's a fallacy to portray that he doesn't run at all or is somehow so averse to it that he impedes a team who wants to fast break. I would argue that Vince is a very intelligent runner in that he pours on his top speed judciously, when it has a better chance of actually helping his team produce a layup or foul. I Tivo every Nets game and, at the end of the season, cull game hilights. My tapes are replete with instances of Carter finishing the fastbreak, keying the fastbreak with a brilliantly fast outlet (a very underrated part of his game), assisting a fastbreak layup, running hard so as to be a finishing option and thus a big reason that a teammate wound up with a fastbreak layup, and hitting a wide open three as the trailer on a fastbreak. ALL of these are crucial contributions to the success of a fastbreak offense, and you would be hardpressed to find a Nets game where Vince hasn't played one or more of these roles in at least 8-10 possessions a game, some probably double that. But of course noticing all that requires an open mind and a reliance more upon individual thinking than upon cliches.
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well said... people really under-estimate all that vince does so WELL for this team...