What us our new rotation?

[THE HCP]

We are pretty small now. What a change from the preseason!

 

[THE HCP]

According to ESPN, we only have one true center......... Greg!

 

[mgb]

"What us our new rotation" ????

 

[jlprk]

Even compared to other teams which carry only 13 men, this roster is thin, even for 13. I don't know why this board wants to add T. J. Ford (6-0, 165).

Of our 11 active players, will Camby, Roy, Mills, Babbitt, and Johnson contribute much tonight against Denver? If not, that leaves 6 players for a very important game, including only 3 players over 6 foot 5.

C
Marcus Camby

PF
LaMarcus Aldridge
Luke Babbitt

SF
Nicolas Batum
Gerald Wallace

SG
Wesley Matthews
Rudy Fernandez
Brandon Roy

PG
Andre Miller
Patrick Mills
Armon Johnson

Out for the season
Greg Oden
Elliott Williams

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Who plays the Lamar Odom role - Batum or Wallace?

 

[Kaydow]

Who plays the Lamar Odom role - Batum or Wallace?

That is the question, isn't it? I've been going back and forth. A starting five of Dre, Wes, Crash, LA, Camby is seriously devoid of perimeter shooting. We're assuming that it's between Batum and Wallace. But it's possible that Camby comes off the bench and it's Dre, Wes, Batum, Crash, LA. Our second unit has been a problem most of the year, but all of the sudden with Roy, Camby, and Crash replacing Joel & Dante, it looks like our depth could be a strength again. One thing we know is that Crash is going to have to play some PF, even though it's being reported that he doesn't like to. LA needs to play less minutes.

There are some compelling reasons to bring Wallace of the bench though. 1) Brings defense & rebounding to the 2nd unit, which have been horrible in those departments. 2) 2nd unit has been running more, which better fits Wallace offensive skill set. Although with Roy back and in the 2nd unit, we'll see if they continue to run. Patty (Roy appears to be taking his minutes) was a big part of the uptempo pace. So many options right now, which is a welcome relief. There is a concern that if everybody get's healthy that Dre/Wes/Roy/Rudy/Batum/Crash/LA/Camby is another rotation logjam. But this is Portland, and since when will they ever be 100% healthy?

 

[Natebishop3]

I just don't see how you can ask an All-Star caliber player to come off the bench. I think we sit Batum, take some pressure off him, and let him keep developing. The guy is still pretty inconsistent in the grand scheme of things. I really like what Nic brings to the table though, and I think eventually he starts for us, but right now I think you start Crash and bring Nic off the bench.

 

[Kaydow]

I just don't see how you can ask an All-Star caliber player to come off the bench. I think we sit Batum, take some pressure off him, and let him keep developing. The guy is still pretty inconsistent in the grand scheme of things. I really like what Nic brings to the table though, and I think eventually he starts for us, but right now I think you start Crash and bring Nic off the bench.

You don't like the idea of starting Batum & Wallace and bringing Camby off the bench? At least for now, while Camby is working out the kinks . . . it would be nice to see how Dre/Wes/Batum/Wallace/LA play together.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Wallace should be the starter, but either way, he , Batum and Camby should all get the minutes they want.

Either

Miller
Mattews
Batum
Wallace
Aldridge

or

Miller
Matthews
Wallace
Aldridge
Camby

For those of you saying that lineup has no perimeter shooting, Wallace shoots .330 from 3, so it's not like he is terrible.

 

[STOMP]

I've weighed in on other threads with this... I'm for bringing Wallace off the bench and playing him primarily at the 4 beside LA or Camby. There are easily 30+ minutes there for him. Batum stays in the starting lineup to help spread the court for LA's post game and Miller's drives... like every team Portland needs to keep several shooters on the court. As the new addition coming from a terrible team to a relevant one, I really doubt that Wallace is going to have public ego problems with this as long as he's getting the PT

STOMP

 

[illmatic99]

From last season.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

From last season.

Interesting. Last year, nearly 60% of his shots were within 5 ft; this year, it's down under 40%. I wonder why the significant change.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Tonight will be a problem if Camby is out (as I doubt Wallace will play)

After writing my post I realized that Wallace will have to play the PF position except at the end of games.

My biggest question is what to do with Rudy. He and Roy as the second unit PG will not work. So for Rudy to get minutes it has to be at the 2 and then when Roy comes in..... the 3. I agree with those who say Wallace needs to be in with the second unit. So I would start Batum and bring Wallace in around the 6 minute mark of the 1st, at the PF position, and move LMA to Center.

Rudy would come in towards the end of the 1st at the SG and move to SF to start the 2nd qtr. Patty comes in as the PG.

So I guess my starters will be Camby, LMA, Batum, Wes, Miiller
My second unite would be Patty, Wallace, Rudy, and Roy. (Camby and LMA will both play with the second unit-at different times)

We need one more big.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Theoretically Wallace should start, but in the grand scheme I don't think it really matters that much. He's almost definitely going to get 32+ minutes per game and Nic and Camby will get plenty too. The real benefit is that LMA can stop playing 44 a night and go down to something much more manageable like 36-38.

 

[Dirty_F_Baby]

until camby is ready my vote would be dre-wes-batum-crash-LMA. then when camby is 100% move batum to bench have him come in at the 3 shifting crash/LMA to 4/5. this plan would also include a need for us to sign another big to take 8 minutes a game or so (particularly untill camby is 100%). mainly, i dont think there is ever a time crash should not be starting.

 

[illmatic99]

Interesting. Last year, nearly 60% of his shots were within 5 ft; this year, it's down under 40%. I wonder why the significant change.

I those multiple concussions pushed his game outward.

 

[mgb]

Start Wallace off the bench so he doesn't distrupt the starters chemistry. Later after he's been here a while he can start if needed.

 

[mook]

until camby is ready my vote would be dre-wes-batum-crash-LMA. then when camby is 100% move batum to bench have him come in at the 3 shifting crash/LMA to 4/5. this plan would also include a need for us to sign another big to take 8 minutes a game or so (particularly untill camby is 100%). mainly, i dont think there is ever a time crash should not be starting.

Yeah, until Camby comes back we HAVE to start Batum and Wallace together. There's simply no other big men to put in there next to Aldridge.

We'll get a few games to evaluate how that looks, and when Camby comes back we can decide whether Camby or Batum go on the bench.

Wallace starts. It's not even negotiable in my mind. He was the best player in the Bobcats' history. He draws 6 FTA's a game over his career. He was an All-Star last year. More importantly, he was First Team All-Defense last year. He's averaged 40 mpg over his last two seasons. He's now the second best player on our team (factoring in his defense and rebounding). He's 28 and in his prime. He simply has to start.

If you put him on the bench in favor of a kid like Batum or a gray-hair like Camby, I really think you're going to see him react just like Miller did when he was demoted in favor of Blake.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Start Wallace off the bench so he doesn't distrupt the starters chemistry. Later after he's been here a while he can start if needed.

I laughed at this, not because I disagree....which I do, but because of the disrupting the starters chemistry line. How many starting lineups have we had this year?

Wallace was an all star last season, and a 1st team all defensive player as well. He starts on most of all teams in the NBA

 

[mgb]

I laughed at this, not because I disagree....which I do, but because of the disrupting the starters chemistry line. How many starting lineups have we had this year?

Wallace was an all star last season, and a 1st team all defensive player as well. He starts on most of all teams in the NBA

Well if Camby is health then we usually would go with LA, Batum, Wesley, and Miller. If Camby doesn't play and since we don't have Dante then we can probably slide Wallace in at PF without it doing much harm, but otherwise I'd go with Camby, LA, Batum, Wesley, and Miller until Wallace has played with us for a while. Laugh all you want.

 

[BlazerBeliever]

Start Wallace off the bench so he doesn't disrupt the starters chemistry. Later after he's been here a while he can start if needed.

Thanks to this trade all we have is LA for a big until Camby is healthy. Wallace has to be a starter right now! When Camby comes back then it's up to Nate if he benches Batum or Wallace. We have had many different lineups the last couple years so I am not worried about disrupting anything.

 

[BlazerBeliever]

I love this trade by the way!

 

[Minstrel]

Miller (35) / Roy (13)
Matthews (33) / Fernandez (15)
Wallace (7) / Batum (32) / Roy (9)
Aldridge (20) / Wallace (28)
Camby (33) / Aldridge (15)

That's my now oft-posted desired rotation. Wallace starts, because there's no way a veteran of his distinction doesn't start, but I think most of his minutes (and I have him down for a very healthy 35) come in the front court, alongside either Aldridge or Camby. It's the best way to keep our most talented players on the court as much as possible, IMO.

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

For tonight:

PG Miller / Patty
SG Roy
SF Matthews
PF Batum
C Aldridge

Pray for no foul trouble tonight!!! Going to be tough game.

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

I could also see tonight:

PG Mills / Armon
SG Miller / Roy
SF WM / Rudy
PF Batum / WM
C Aldridge / Batum

 

[EGame]

I could also see tonight:

PG Mills / Armon
SG Miller / Roy
SF WM / Rudy
PF Batum / WM
C Aldridge / Batum

Is Rudy hurt or something?

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

Is Rudy hurt or something?

No, I just don't see him starting in front of any of the others I listed. Possibly ahead of WM at SF? But doubtful.

Everyone is going to have to play bigger tonight and guard bigger tonight. It could be ugly.

 

[Minstrel]

No, I just don't see him starting in front of any of the others I listed. Possibly ahead of WM at SF? But doubtful.

Everyone is going to have to play bigger tonight and guard bigger tonight. It could be ugly.

Rudy will definitely play more than Armon or Mills, IMO. He certainly should.

 

[Pinwheel1]

The topic is not who starts, but what is our new rotation. I don't care if he starts or not. And I doubt he does either. He will get his minutes. But when Camby comes back, which will be soon, what is our new rotation? Who starts the second qtr?

You guys like Rudy as the back up PG? I hate it

 

[EGame]

No, I just don't see him starting in front of any of the others I listed. Possibly ahead of WM at SF? But doubtful.

Everyone is going to have to play bigger tonight and guard bigger tonight. It could be ugly.

It seems to make more sense to put Miller at PG and start Rudy at SG based off your projected lineup IMO.