WHAT WAS CASHMAN DOING?

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Besides the obvious answer of absolutely nothing this was a complete cluster fuck. It seems like every contending team did something to improve. The Yankees made some cosmetic moves that do absolutely nothing. The fact is with Pineda on the shelf this is a weaker club. I'm not saying they needed him but the Mets landed Cespedes for absolutely nothing. Not making a move is a complete disgrace and like I said in another thread we're going to be left with waiver wire scraps. Yes, I'm happy none of the top prospects were dealt but very disappointed that they did nothing to help themselves moving forward this season.
 
With Pineda out moving Warren back to the rotation is now a must. Someone in that organization is going to have to sack up and put CC back in the Pen.
 
Well with Pineda on he shelf for who knows how long if they leave Warren in the pen and continue this nonsense with CC things are going to get rough.
 
15 Day DL but per MLB "analysts" could be four to eight weeks, not good. So unlees Cashman has a rabbit in his hat they better hustle Warren back out there. In the case of CC it's just blatant stupidity to keep running him out there, especially against Division opponents.
 
With Pineda out moving Warren back to the rotation is now a must. Someone in that organization is going to have to sack up and put CC back in the Pen.


"With Pineda out moving Warren back to the rotation is now a must".
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Warren back to the SPR sounds like the best most obvious choice especially if they feel they have an adequate alternative for Warren's bullpen spot.
Or, the Yanks can call up Severino......then we could still have the bullpen intact and have our top pitching prospect in the rotation.
And Cashman won't have to "give up" anything to do it!
 
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15 Day DL but per MLB "analysts" could be four to eight weeks, not good. So unlees Cashman has a rabbit in his hat they better hustle Warren back out there. In the case of CC it's just blatant stupidity to keep running him out there, especially against Division opponents.

...Ackley is the answer.
 
Trashman's lack of obtaining a starter or reliever or anyone
of worth really puts the screws to Girardi to keep the team
on top with his smoking mirrors. Those mirrors look
extremely cracked. How this team responds, to say the
least, will be interesting.

Meanwhile, the Trash man buries his head in the sand.
I do not trust his evaluation of talent. Look who he has
on the parent team.........who do not belong in MLB.
He literally is the face of the organization...how does
this guy get a pass in New York and with the New York
Yankees? :smiley-nay::smiley-puzzled:
 
"..Ackley is the answer".

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Guess what, Yanks just got younger and more " athletic".
Dumped Capuano 36 yrs old, Jones 34 yrs old,.....
And added Goody 23 yrs old, Severino 21 yrs old, and Ackley 27 yrs old who can play infield AND outfield.:rotfl:
 
Besides the obvious answer of absolutely nothing this was a complete cluster fuck. It seems like every contending team did something to improve. The Yankees made some cosmetic moves that do absolutely nothing. The fact is with Pineda on the shelf this is a weaker club. I'm not saying they needed him but the Mets landed Cespedes for absolutely nothing. Not making a move is a complete disgrace and like I said in another thread we're going to be left with waiver wire scraps. Yes, I'm happy none of the top prospects were dealt but very disappointed that they did nothing to help themselves moving forward this season.
While I agree with the above, it was actually somewhat refreshing to not only see the prospects stay, but it also results in one coming to the show
 
exactly...................ACKLEY. LOL
 
Responding to posts 10 and 11:

As the other teams are scrambling, acquiring rentals and trading prospects, let's not lose sight of the current main objective of finishing in first place and the Yankees presently in first place as August comes around are in better shape than the rest of the division and have not traded one single top prospect and added a "younger" versatile player who can play infield positions and the outfield to help out when regulars need a day off.
 
While I agree with the above, it was actually somewhat refreshing to not only see the prospects stay, but it also results in one coming to the show


...but they also lost Pineda...and in the meantime, while other teams got better, the Yanx did not.

...the Ackley move was redundant and did not improve the team one iota, though some may choose to paint it otherwise...the Yanx have plenty of OFers and plenty of second basemen...and have little depth off the bench, especially offensive depth late in the game when it is needed.
 
Ackley - turned 27 yrs old in Feb,
Has played 2b in 282 games.
LF - 207 games
CF- 71 games
1b (rarely)- 18 games

Career .243 BA, has some power reaching double digits twice in a season with decent speed. Is he a GOOD hitter....no...but he helps make the Yanks younger and more athletic/versatile and his "type" of player is a SPARE PART and bench player who gives the MGR more options on the field (rest regulars, bumps and bruises,ect) and isn't expected to carry the team with his bat..lol.

The Yanks only owe him approx 1.5 (?) mil for the remainder of the season.
He's not Ben Zobrist, but he's also not 34 yrs old with a balky knee making 7.5 mil this year.
 
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exactly...................ACKLEY. LOL

...yup, Cashman's original "plan" was supposedly to get "younger and more athletic" before this season started, not in August. Instead he acquired players like Jones and Capuano and flush $10 Mil down the drain by cutting them and thereby admitting they were bad acquisitions to begin with.
 
Money if he had spent in the off season would have landed another quality starter.....broken record.
 
^^^thank you...somehow the "plan" has evidently been made retroactive... the preseason plan was to get "younger and more athletic" so Cashman decided to bring in 2 old bums (Jones 34, and Capuano soon to be 37) and then waste nearly $13 Mil by subsequently replacing them with youngsters...thereby admitting his original "plan" was misguided and contradictory.

...like you said, that wasted money could/should have been spent more wisely BEFORE the season began...there were also much better options at 2B .
 
It's a simple decision tree for risk/reward analysis, biz school 101 stuff. People that run billion dollar operations should be able to do these things. It was obvious to us that "the plan" was not well vetted or defined, which is why he's ended up spending more for less value.
 
cashman lucky in that texeira and the "clean a-rod" LMAO having their best seasons in 5 years otherwise back in the pack. Still can't fathom why refsnyder is not up here to stay instead of drew and the frito bandito at 2nd.
 
The Plan to get "younger and more athletic" primarily concerns the new crop of prospects with the ETA pretty much accepted as being 2016 and everyone knows it.

I'm also curious- where exactly were the Yanks supposed to get younger and more athletic going into the season in positions which weren't expected to be taken by veteran players under contract?
From what I can see - the Yanks DID get younger and more "athletic" at SS with Didi which had been open after Jeter retired.

CC ? Yes of course the Yanks could've released him prior to the season and certainly should remove him from the rotation but we should've been savy enough to realize unfortunately there was/still is salary politics involved and the Yanks- imo - were reasonable in expecting or giving him the chance to become an effective "finesse" pitcher.....and regardless, he ISN'T an everyday player/regular.

The rest of the SP? Yanks DID get younger with the Eovaldi trade and despite CC, they DO have a relatively young SP staff and match up surprisingly well when compared to the average age of some other "competitive" teams in the league.

By the way, Severino 21 yrs old and Mitchell 24 yrs old are currently in the rotation....don't know how "athletic" they are....but I know how YOUNG they are.

2b/3b? From what I can tell, it was a question of re-signing Headley and/or keeping Prado which STILL would've left 2b or 3b open and on this matter, from ST through the first couple of months I don't care who the GM is, Refsnyder was NOT ready defensively to be the everyday 2b....he was given a couple of games and I NOW agree he could/should be getting more playing time but - IMO - the 2b position is not preventing the Yanks from doing well enough to be in a pretty good situation in the standings.

Catcher? McCann - and the Yanks have a 24 year old backup catcher who can handle the bat and get his share of hits.

RF? Last time I checked it was a question of signing Beltran for three years or Grandy for four years.....and there was NO mention of Judge at the time...lol
Anyone on the board really believe the Yanks should've went with Judge in RF to start the season? Beltran can still hit when he's healthy and is currently proving it...and when the Yanks signed him, he was coming off a year with the Cards -
296BA, .830 OPS, 24 HRs , 84 RBI.

LF, CF? Shall we move on? lol
And when Ellsbury got injured, the Yanks DID dip into their farm system and called up TWO young AND very athletic players Heathcott and Williams....

1b? Tex was going to be THE first baseman and remain there even if he was having a mediocre year.....and I agree with the GM not choosing to use Bird early and NOW as a backup....he's better served getting playing time at AAA which he was promoted to only a couple of weeks ago. The Yanks chose to go with a 34 year old backup in Jones ...part time back up 1b aren't usually the "young athletic" type.

And remember how upset a few people were after the Yanks traded Cervelli?
John Ryan Murphy must've been a little piece of "the plan" which some of us must've missed as we weren't invited to the "planning" meetings.

Young is one of the backup outfielder....I think this relatively "inexpensive" little piece of the "the plan" was also one that flew under our radar screens.....but some of us aren't lucky enough to have a seat at the table when some little pieces of "the plan" are put in place.

Jones was part of "the plan" lol, but he was required to help acquire Eovaldi and the Yanks/Cashman are very much entitled to make adjustments and a little "REBOOTING" like some other GMs......and the ultimate "PLAN" is winning.

Go Yanks!
 
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It's a simple decision tree for risk/reward analysis, biz school 101 stuff. People that run billion dollar operations should be able to do these things. It was obvious to us that "the plan" was not well vetted or defined, which is why he's ended up spending more for less value.

...lol...still laughing at the retro "plan"....trying to finally get younger in August instead if when the supposed plan was originally implemented in the Spring.
...if there ever was a "plan" how was Cashman acquiring two older players in the off season who were way on the other side of 30 (Capuano 37 and Jones 34) only to finally replace them in August and flushing $12 Mil down the toilet, part of the plan?
...Eovaldi?... 4.30 ERA with a WHIP of 1.50 ? Out of 20 starts, he's only had 7 quality starts...and opponents are hitting .300 against him...Yeah, he's the answer to the youth movement.
...and Cashman also fails to address the needs of this team at the trade deadline. The Yanx are 21st in pitching and 27th in quality starts. And the answer to Drew is Ackley?

...this is not the time of the year to be gambling the season on youngsters...I hope they succeed, but it's a huge gamble.

...but yeah, I think the Steins should go ahead and give Cashman another raise and extend his contract another 3 years.
 
Look at our run differential.... Pitching is doing its job....lol!
 
"The Plan" was written on Toilet Paper, with a last minute brainstorm of Hank and Trashman........

in their haste to meet at the Waldorf, both forgot their briefcases, even forgot the Waldorf has complimentary stationary.......

Since both do their best work on the can, it only came natural, to use recycled TP, bet the Bathroom Industrial Engineer gave 'em a entire roll.....and shined their shoes too......now that's power......!
 

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