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Last week brought us New York times story on Trump tax cheating, so called debate, former campaign manager's meltdown, leak of Melania dissing Christmas and a super spreader event that resulted in Trump and a pile of Republicans getting Corona virus. Did I leave anything out? Probably.

What will this week bring?
 
crandc said:
Last week brought us New York times story on Trump tax cheating, so called debate, former campaign manager's meltdown, leak of Melania dissing Christmas and a super spreader event that resulted in Trump and a pile of Republicans getting Corona virus. Did I leave anything out? Probably.

What will this week bring?
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More “winning“, of course..........
 
Trump will address the American people and admit Covid -19 is for real, talk about a subject where he doesn't give himself credit, apologize to Biden for his crude behavior and congratulate Jim Carrey for his Biden portrayal on SNL.
 
crandc said:
Last week brought us New York times story on Trump tax cheating, so called debate, former campaign manager's meltdown, leak of Melania dissing Christmas and a super spreader event that resulted in Trump and a pile of Republicans getting Corona virus. Did I leave anything out? Probably.

What will this week bring?
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This last week will be tough to top but I remain confident that Trump can do it.
 
This past week in October:

Trump joyride and Mussolini moment.
Food fight between Melania and Stormy Daniels. No one has seen or heard from Melania since.
The fly.
New York times revealed Trump got unexplained $21 million in 2016. Another story showed favors to those who pay to stay at his properties.
Trump more manic than usual. Announced he feels ,20 years younger, Corona virus a blessing from God, he is young and in peak condition, fake exam via Fox.
White House refuses to say if Trump tested negative.
Without consulting military Trump announced plan for complete withdraw from Afghanistan. Also profanity laced threat to Iran. Demands attorney general lock up Obama, Biden, Clinton.
Hitler lover Candace Owens pays Black people to attend super spreader event.

Biden continues to widen lead. Can't figure out why.

Auto correct changed Biden to Nudes. Can't figure out why.
 
Emails blow apart Biden story: Messages found on computer along with sex and drugs pics of Democrat candidate’s son suggest former Vice President DID meet his boy’s Ukraine business contacts - despite his denials
  • Email cache raises new claims about Hunter Biden's dealings with Ukrainian firm
  • He apparently introduced Joe Biden to an executive at gas company Burisma
  • Biden would later pressure Ukraine to fire prosecutor investigating the firm
  • Prosecutor was fired amid concerns which were shared by other countries
  • Stash of files was disclosed by Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani
  • The Senate Homeland Security Committee says it has been contacted by the 'whistleblower' and is looking into the matter
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...et-son-Hunters-Ukrainian-energy-contacts.html
 
crandc said:
This past week in October:

Trump joyride and Mussolini moment.
Food fight between Melania and Stormy Daniels. No one has seen or heard from Melania since.
The fly.
New York times revealed Trump got unexplained $21 million in 2016. Another story showed favors to those who pay to stay at his properties.
Trump more manic than usual. Announced he feels ,20 years younger, Corona virus a blessing from God, he is young and in peak condition, fake exam via Fox.
White House refuses to say if Trump tested negative.
Without consulting military Trump announced plan for complete withdraw from Afghanistan. Also profanity laced threat to Iran. Demands attorney general lock up Obama, Biden, Clinton.
Hitler lover Candace Owens pays Black people to attend super spreader event.

Biden continues to widen lead. Can't figure out why.

Auto correct changed Biden to Nudes. Can't figure out why.
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All this political stuff had me yawning but when you said 'nudes' suddenly I was wide awake.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Emails blow apart Biden story: Messages found on computer along with sex and drugs pics of Democrat candidate’s son suggest former Vice President DID meet his boy’s Ukraine business contacts - despite his denials
  • Email cache raises new claims about Hunter Biden's dealings with Ukrainian firm
  • He apparently introduced Joe Biden to an executive at gas company Burisma
  • Biden would later pressure Ukraine to fire prosecutor investigating the firm
  • Prosecutor was fired amid concerns which were shared by other countries
  • Stash of files was disclosed by Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani
  • The Senate Homeland Security Committee says it has been contacted by the 'whistleblower' and is looking into the matter
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...et-son-Hunters-Ukrainian-energy-contacts.html
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Tell me more, tell me more
But you don't gotta brag
Tell me more, tell me more
Cause he sounds like a drag

Biden fling don't mean a thing but oh oh the Ukraine nights.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Tell me more, tell me more
But you don't gotta brag
Tell me more, tell me more
Cause he sounds like a drag

Biden fling don't mean a thing but oh oh the Ukraine nights.

barfo
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Well, apparently, some unnamed person brought a damaged laptop to an unnamed repair shop where an unnamed technician found an email supposedly to Hunter Biden on unspecified date setting up meeting on unspecified date to discuss unspecified matters. This unnamed technician contacted an unnamed police department but first copied the material onto a flash drive and gave it to Rudy Giuliani who, instead of informing FBI about the alleged crime, told the highly reputation New York Post.
Clearly smoking gun that will put Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi in jail.
 
crandc said:
Well, apparently, some unnamed person brought a damaged laptop to an unnamed repair shop where an unnamed technician found an email supposedly to Hunter Biden on unspecified date setting up meeting on unspecified date to discuss unspecified matters. This unnamed technician contacted an unnamed police department but first copied the material onto a flash drive and gave it to Rudy Giuliani who, instead of informing FBI about the alleged crime, told the highly reputation New York Post.
Clearly smoking gun that will put Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi in jail.
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According to the Post article, the owner of the shop called the FBI who came and confiscated the computer. Before they showed up, the owner made a copy of the hard drive and gave it to Giuliani. The computer is also supposed to contain smutty pictures and videos of Hunter with drugs & having sex with an unidentified woman.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/

No comment on the veracity of all of the above except to say that the timing seems awfully convenient.
 
New York Post is really up there with National Enquirer.
 
Sooooo....

Trump's next move should be to become a wartime president. Remember, no wartime president has ever been not re-elected.

So who will we attack in the next 2 weeks?

Iran?

North Korea?

Venezuela?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Sooooo....

Trump's next move should be to become a wartime president. Remember, no wartime president has ever been not re-elected.

So who will we attack in the next 2 weeks?

Iran?

North Korea?

Venezuela?
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Didn't he recently bemoan the leadership of Oregon?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Sooooo....

Trump's next move should be to become a wartime president. Remember, no wartime president has ever been not re-elected.

So who will we attack in the next 2 weeks?

Iran?

North Korea?

Venezuela?
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Greenland
 
andalusian said:
Didn't he recently bemoan the leadership of Oregon?
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I'd be happy with that. One of the first things the US did when they invaded Iran and Afghanistan was give them socialized medicine.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Sooooo....

Trump's next move should be to become a wartime president. Remember, no wartime president has ever been not re-elected.

So who will we attack in the next 2 weeks?

Iran?

North Korea?

Venezuela?
Click to expand...

At this point, Melania has to be pretty pissed with him, what with all the Covid stupidity that caused her and Baron to get sick. She's from a foreign country. Seems like there's something there that could be worked with.
 
crandc said:
Well, apparently, some unnamed person brought a damaged laptop to an unnamed repair shop where an unnamed technician found an email supposedly to Hunter Biden on unspecified date setting up meeting on unspecified date to discuss unspecified matters. This unnamed technician contacted an unnamed police department but first copied the material onto a flash drive and gave it to Rudy Giuliani who, instead of informing FBI about the alleged crime, told the highly reputation New York Post.
Clearly smoking gun that will put Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi in jail.
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Id be fine with just Hillary.
She got us in this mess let her take one for the team!
 
"On Wednesday morning, the New York Post published a story alleging that Hunter Biden dropped off a laptop at a Delaware computer store for repair and that the device contained nefarious emails and photos.

The item was immediately viewed with suspicion, both for the timing of it—coming less than three weeks before the elections—and the path the laptop supposedly took. The Post said that “before turning over the gear,” the owner of the computer repair shop, “made a copy of the hard drive and later gave it to former Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer, Robert Costello.” The story alleged that the Biden son was setting up a meeting between a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm on which he served and his father, who was then the Vice President. The Biden campaign has said no such meeting was scheduled.

On Wednesday afternoon, a group of reporters, among them a journalist for The Daily Beast, spoke with the owner of the shop, a man named John Paul Mac Isaac who lives in Wilmington, Delaware. The audio of that nearly hour-long question and answer session is below.

Mac Isaac appeared nervous throughout. Several times, he said he was scared for his life and for the lives of those he loved. He appeared not to have a grasp on the timeline of the laptop arriving at his shop and its disappearance from it. He also said the impeachment of President Trump was a “sham.” Social media postings indicate that Mac Isaac is an avid Trump supporter, and voted for him in the 2016 election.

Mac Isaac said he had a medical condition that prevented him from actually seeing who dropped off the laptop but that he believed it to be Hunter Biden’s because of a sticker related to the Beau Biden Foundation that was on it. He said that Hunter Biden actually dropped off three laptops for repair, an abundance of hardware that he chalked up to the Biden son being “rich.”

Throughout the entire interview, Mac Isaac switched back and forth from saying he reached out to law enforcement after viewing the files in the laptop to saying that it was actually the Federal Bureau of Investigation that reached out to him. At one point, Mac Isaac claimed that he was emailing someone from the FBI about the laptop. At another point he claimed a special agent from the Baltimore office had contacted him after he alerted the FBI to the device’s existence. At another point, he said the FBI reached out to him for “help accessing his drive.”

Mac Isaac referenced the infamous Seth Rich conspiracy theory—which holds that a DNC staffer who police say was murdered in a botched robbery was actually killed off by Clinton allies because he leaked committee emails—as reason for his paranoia. He said he made a copy of the hard drive for purposes of personal protection.

“They probably knew I had a copy because I was pretty vocal about not wanting to get murdered,” he said, “so I’m going to have a copy.”

Mac Isaac refused to answer specific questions about whether he had been in contact with Rudy Giuliani before the laptop drop-off or at any other time before the Post’s publication. Pressed on his relationship with Giuliani, he replied: “When you’re afraid and you don’t know anything about the depth of the waters that you’re in, you want to find a lifeguard.”

Seeming to realize he’d said too much, he added: “Ah shit.”

So, Rudy was your lifeguard, the reporters asked. “No comment,” he replied."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-w...ptop-to-rudy-speaks-out-in-bizarre-interview/
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"The biggest problem with the claims in the emails is the same as that in every other Biden did something-something in Ukraine story. That problem is simple: Prosecutor Viktor Shokin was not investigating the company where Hunter Biden was on the board. How do we know that? Not only are there no records of such an investigation in Ukraine, Shokin himself has said as much. In fact, it was Shokin’s refusal to open such an investigation that led to U.K. officials requesting that he be removed from office.

How does the Post story weasel-word their way around this problem? In the most weasel-y way imaginable. According to the Post, Shokin had made “specific plans” to investigate Burisma. So not only did Joe Biden apparently step in to stop the investigation, he stopped it when it was just an idea in Shokin’s head that had not been acted on. Pretty darn clever, that Biden."
****************************************************************************************

"It might also be worth a quick look at the author of this Post article. The byline on the story is Emma-Jo Morris, who is listed on the masthead as Deputy Politics Editor at New York Post. Since when? Since today, that’s when. Morris has exactly three stories on her resume at the Post … all of them written on Wednesday. All of them about Hunter Biden. What did Morris do prior to her instant appointment as editor? She booked guests for Sean Hannity."
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"Just last month, FBI Director Christopher Wray and CIA officials made it clear that Giuliani’s orbit was a tight circle around Vladimir Putin. That included identifying former Ukrainian legislator Andrii Derkach—Giuliani’s primary contact in Ukraine—as a Russian disinformation agent who was in direct contact with the Kremlin. Derkach worked with Giuliani to spread disinformation about Biden “inside the United States through lobbyists, Congress, the media and contacts with figures close to the president.”

Not only is Giuliani’s October surprise anything but believable, the odds that it’s not a direct ploy to slip disinformation sourced by Russia into the American media appear vanishingly small. Because it’s not just Derkach who is a disinformation agent.

Twitter has now blocked access to the Post story. Good for them. At least someone is trying to stop the flow of Russian propaganda."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...s-frame-up-looks-more-like-Russian-propaganda

this looks like a pretty clumsy smear made up by Giuliani and his Russian handlers.
 
wizenheimer said:
"On Wednesday morning, the New York Post published a story alleging that Hunter Biden dropped off a laptop at a Delaware computer store for repair and that the device contained nefarious emails and photos.

The item was immediately viewed with suspicion, both for the timing of it—coming less than three weeks before the elections—and the path the laptop supposedly took. The Post said that “before turning over the gear,” the owner of the computer repair shop, “made a copy of the hard drive and later gave it to former Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer, Robert Costello.” The story alleged that the Biden son was setting up a meeting between a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm on which he served and his father, who was then the Vice President. The Biden campaign has said no such meeting was scheduled.

On Wednesday afternoon, a group of reporters, among them a journalist for The Daily Beast, spoke with the owner of the shop, a man named John Paul Mac Isaac who lives in Wilmington, Delaware. The audio of that nearly hour-long question and answer session is below.

Mac Isaac appeared nervous throughout. Several times, he said he was scared for his life and for the lives of those he loved. He appeared not to have a grasp on the timeline of the laptop arriving at his shop and its disappearance from it. He also said the impeachment of President Trump was a “sham.” Social media postings indicate that Mac Isaac is an avid Trump supporter, and voted for him in the 2016 election.

Mac Isaac said he had a medical condition that prevented him from actually seeing who dropped off the laptop but that he believed it to be Hunter Biden’s because of a sticker related to the Beau Biden Foundation that was on it. He said that Hunter Biden actually dropped off three laptops for repair, an abundance of hardware that he chalked up to the Biden son being “rich.”

Throughout the entire interview, Mac Isaac switched back and forth from saying he reached out to law enforcement after viewing the files in the laptop to saying that it was actually the Federal Bureau of Investigation that reached out to him. At one point, Mac Isaac claimed that he was emailing someone from the FBI about the laptop. At another point he claimed a special agent from the Baltimore office had contacted him after he alerted the FBI to the device’s existence. At another point, he said the FBI reached out to him for “help accessing his drive.”

Mac Isaac referenced the infamous Seth Rich conspiracy theory—which holds that a DNC staffer who police say was murdered in a botched robbery was actually killed off by Clinton allies because he leaked committee emails—as reason for his paranoia. He said he made a copy of the hard drive for purposes of personal protection.

“They probably knew I had a copy because I was pretty vocal about not wanting to get murdered,” he said, “so I’m going to have a copy.”

Mac Isaac refused to answer specific questions about whether he had been in contact with Rudy Giuliani before the laptop drop-off or at any other time before the Post’s publication. Pressed on his relationship with Giuliani, he replied: “When you’re afraid and you don’t know anything about the depth of the waters that you’re in, you want to find a lifeguard.”

Seeming to realize he’d said too much, he added: “Ah shit.”

So, Rudy was your lifeguard, the reporters asked. “No comment,” he replied."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-w...ptop-to-rudy-speaks-out-in-bizarre-interview/
**********************************************************************************

"The biggest problem with the claims in the emails is the same as that in every other Biden did something-something in Ukraine story. That problem is simple: Prosecutor Viktor Shokin was not investigating the company where Hunter Biden was on the board. How do we know that? Not only are there no records of such an investigation in Ukraine, Shokin himself has said as much. In fact, it was Shokin’s refusal to open such an investigation that led to U.K. officials requesting that he be removed from office.

How does the Post story weasel-word their way around this problem? In the most weasel-y way imaginable. According to the Post, Shokin had made “specific plans” to investigate Burisma. So not only did Joe Biden apparently step in to stop the investigation, he stopped it when it was just an idea in Shokin’s head that had not been acted on. Pretty darn clever, that Biden."
****************************************************************************************

"It might also be worth a quick look at the author of this Post article. The byline on the story is Emma-Jo Morris, who is listed on the masthead as Deputy Politics Editor at New York Post. Since when? Since today, that’s when. Morris has exactly three stories on her resume at the Post … all of them written on Wednesday. All of them about Hunter Biden. What did Morris do prior to her instant appointment as editor? She booked guests for Sean Hannity."
********************************************************************************************

"Just last month, FBI Director Christopher Wray and CIA officials made it clear that Giuliani’s orbit was a tight circle around Vladimir Putin. That included identifying former Ukrainian legislator Andrii Derkach—Giuliani’s primary contact in Ukraine—as a Russian disinformation agent who was in direct contact with the Kremlin. Derkach worked with Giuliani to spread disinformation about Biden “inside the United States through lobbyists, Congress, the media and contacts with figures close to the president.”

Not only is Giuliani’s October surprise anything but believable, the odds that it’s not a direct ploy to slip disinformation sourced by Russia into the American media appear vanishingly small. Because it’s not just Derkach who is a disinformation agent.

Twitter has now blocked access to the Post story. Good for them. At least someone is trying to stop the flow of Russian propaganda."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...s-frame-up-looks-more-like-Russian-propaganda

this looks like a pretty clumsy smear made up by Giuliani and his Russian handlers.
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I have made a copy of this post and hidden it on my laptop just in case Biden or Hillary want to murder me.
 
wizenheimer said:
"On Wednesday morning, the New York Post published a story alleging that Hunter Biden dropped off a laptop at a Delaware computer store for repair and that the device contained nefarious emails and photos.

The item was immediately viewed with suspicion, both for the timing of it—coming less than three weeks before the elections—and the path the laptop supposedly took. The Post said that “before turning over the gear,” the owner of the computer repair shop, “made a copy of the hard drive and later gave it to former Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer, Robert Costello.” The story alleged that the Biden son was setting up a meeting between a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm on which he served and his father, who was then the Vice President. The Biden campaign has said no such meeting was scheduled.

On Wednesday afternoon, a group of reporters, among them a journalist for The Daily Beast, spoke with the owner of the shop, a man named John Paul Mac Isaac who lives in Wilmington, Delaware. The audio of that nearly hour-long question and answer session is below.

Mac Isaac appeared nervous throughout. Several times, he said he was scared for his life and for the lives of those he loved. He appeared not to have a grasp on the timeline of the laptop arriving at his shop and its disappearance from it. He also said the impeachment of President Trump was a “sham.” Social media postings indicate that Mac Isaac is an avid Trump supporter, and voted for him in the 2016 election.

Mac Isaac said he had a medical condition that prevented him from actually seeing who dropped off the laptop but that he believed it to be Hunter Biden’s because of a sticker related to the Beau Biden Foundation that was on it. He said that Hunter Biden actually dropped off three laptops for repair, an abundance of hardware that he chalked up to the Biden son being “rich.”

Throughout the entire interview, Mac Isaac switched back and forth from saying he reached out to law enforcement after viewing the files in the laptop to saying that it was actually the Federal Bureau of Investigation that reached out to him. At one point, Mac Isaac claimed that he was emailing someone from the FBI about the laptop. At another point he claimed a special agent from the Baltimore office had contacted him after he alerted the FBI to the device’s existence. At another point, he said the FBI reached out to him for “help accessing his drive.”

Mac Isaac referenced the infamous Seth Rich conspiracy theory—which holds that a DNC staffer who police say was murdered in a botched robbery was actually killed off by Clinton allies because he leaked committee emails—as reason for his paranoia. He said he made a copy of the hard drive for purposes of personal protection.

“They probably knew I had a copy because I was pretty vocal about not wanting to get murdered,” he said, “so I’m going to have a copy.”

Mac Isaac refused to answer specific questions about whether he had been in contact with Rudy Giuliani before the laptop drop-off or at any other time before the Post’s publication. Pressed on his relationship with Giuliani, he replied: “When you’re afraid and you don’t know anything about the depth of the waters that you’re in, you want to find a lifeguard.”

Seeming to realize he’d said too much, he added: “Ah shit.”

So, Rudy was your lifeguard, the reporters asked. “No comment,” he replied."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-w...ptop-to-rudy-speaks-out-in-bizarre-interview/
**********************************************************************************

"The biggest problem with the claims in the emails is the same as that in every other Biden did something-something in Ukraine story. That problem is simple: Prosecutor Viktor Shokin was not investigating the company where Hunter Biden was on the board. How do we know that? Not only are there no records of such an investigation in Ukraine, Shokin himself has said as much. In fact, it was Shokin’s refusal to open such an investigation that led to U.K. officials requesting that he be removed from office.

How does the Post story weasel-word their way around this problem? In the most weasel-y way imaginable. According to the Post, Shokin had made “specific plans” to investigate Burisma. So not only did Joe Biden apparently step in to stop the investigation, he stopped it when it was just an idea in Shokin’s head that had not been acted on. Pretty darn clever, that Biden."
****************************************************************************************

"It might also be worth a quick look at the author of this Post article. The byline on the story is Emma-Jo Morris, who is listed on the masthead as Deputy Politics Editor at New York Post. Since when? Since today, that’s when. Morris has exactly three stories on her resume at the Post … all of them written on Wednesday. All of them about Hunter Biden. What did Morris do prior to her instant appointment as editor? She booked guests for Sean Hannity."
********************************************************************************************

"Just last month, FBI Director Christopher Wray and CIA officials made it clear that Giuliani’s orbit was a tight circle around Vladimir Putin. That included identifying former Ukrainian legislator Andrii Derkach—Giuliani’s primary contact in Ukraine—as a Russian disinformation agent who was in direct contact with the Kremlin. Derkach worked with Giuliani to spread disinformation about Biden “inside the United States through lobbyists, Congress, the media and contacts with figures close to the president.”

Not only is Giuliani’s October surprise anything but believable, the odds that it’s not a direct ploy to slip disinformation sourced by Russia into the American media appear vanishingly small. Because it’s not just Derkach who is a disinformation agent.

Twitter has now blocked access to the Post story. Good for them. At least someone is trying to stop the flow of Russian propaganda."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...s-frame-up-looks-more-like-Russian-propaganda

this looks like a pretty clumsy smear made up by Giuliani and his Russian handlers.
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This is going to turn out to be Stupid Watergate, where the criminals break into their own houses, hide stolen stuff in the basement, and then have Rudy call the police on them.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
This is going to turn out to be Stupid Watergate, where the criminals break into their own houses, hide stolen stuff in the basement, and then have Rudy call the police on them.
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It's almost like the mastermind is from an Austin Powers movie, cept not trying to be funny.
 
crandc said:
And you said Hillary got us into this mess. She is a private citizen, not president.
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By losing to Trump! If she would have let Joe and or EW run in 16 we wouldn't be in this situation. Don't you agree? Anyone except Hillary and/or Bernie could have won by a landslide.
 
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Hoopguru said:
By losing to Trump! If she would have let Joe and or EW run in 16 we would be in this situation. Don't you agree? Anyone except Hillary and/or Bernie could have won by a landslide.
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I agree with you on this. The republicans had years to tear her apart piece by piece, investigation after investigation. People were tired of hearing her name. In the end she was a very bad candidate that was made out to be a criminal. Too many issues.
 
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