What will become of Roy?

[fumanchu]

So you take a pair of bad knees combined with players that don't fit with his style. Throw in a little depression from his realization that he's slipping, and the growing pains of learning how to adapt his game. You now have a perennial all-star turning into a potential bench player in just a few months.

Very sad. In fact, it sucks balls.

So what now? Will he become the next Grant Hill? Or is this just a bump in the road that he will rebound from?

 

[Blazinaway]

So you take a pair of bad knees combined with players that don't fit with his style. Throw in a little depression from his realization that he's slipping, and the growing pains of learning how to adapt his game. You now have a perennial all-star turning into a potential bench player in just a few months.

Very sad. In fact, it sucks balls.

So what now? Will he become the next Grant Hill? Or is this just a bump in the road that he will rebound from?

I think the new CBA may be have some provision for a contract like Roy's, unless his knees get so bad he can't play any more his year it may just go on like this unless he considers retiring. Unless he can adjust and improve his play from what we have recently seen, I think he going to come of the bench eventually.

 

[Natebishop3]

Well, the team is up against a wall. I highly doubt anyone will trade for him, and he's virtually untradable until next season anyway. To make matters worse, it seems like he's bent on destroying what was once a team with great chemistry. It's sad really.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Roy will be almost fine once the team gives into his demands of trading Miller. Look for him to start averaging close to 20 points a game after that.

 

[Natebishop3]

Roy will be almost fine once the team gives into his demands of trading Miller. Look for him to start averaging close to 20 points a game after that.

Honestly, that will make it very hard for me to root for Roy.

 

[LittleAlex]

Roy will be almost fine once the team gives into his demands of trading Miller. Look for him to start averaging close to 20 points a game after that.

And for the team to just barely make the playoffs then get curb stomped in the first round...

For the next 5 years.

 

[Blazinaway]

Roy will be almost fine once the team gives into his demands of trading Miller. Look for him to start averaging close to 20 points a game after that.

lol,maybe if he takes 20 shots a game, and how many will the guy he's guarding get?

 

[hasoos]

Roy will be almost fine once the team gives into his demands of trading Miller. Look for him to start averaging close to 20 points a game after that.

Here is my view on that. IMO if Roy starts to respond after a trade, it is the best thing that can happen to the franchise. Because if it doesn't happen, the death spiral begins. Full blown lotto if it doesn't work. I may not like the way Roy is handling it, but sometimes in life you have to do what you need to do in order to get something done when otherwise it will not. If that means dealing with management in a very serious tone, then so be it. I believe Roy deserves some benefit of the doubt due to what he has brought our franchise, but I also am very skeptical it will work because I believe the problems health.

 

[PapaG]

And for the team to just barely make the playoffs then get curb stomped in the first round...

For the next 5 years.

Isn't that where they are at right now with Miller? Andre is gone after this season, at the latest, and it will have nothing to do with Roy.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

My prediction? Roy will be a 2 games out of 5 starter, preventing the team from ever gelling.

 

[PapaG]

My prediction? Roy will be a 2 games out of 5 starter, preventing the team from ever gelling.

I don't think there is anything really to gel, though. A bunch of 'B' and 'C' players aren't going anywhere.

Oh, and I'm going with haberdasher for what will become of Roy.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Oh, and I'm going with haberdasher for what will become of Roy.

lol!

 

[LittleAlex]

Isn't that where they are at right now with Miller? Andre is gone after this season, at the latest, and it will have nothing to do with Roy.

Sure.

It just means that moving Miller to placate Roy is a completely meaningless gesture that will do nothing to improve the team's post season chances.

It will also mean that the team will be unable to improve the personel in any meaningful way since Roy will just go into the tank if they try.

 

[PapaG]

Sure.

It just means that moving Miller to placate Roy is a completely meaningless gesture that will do nothing to improve the team's post season chances.

It will also mean that the team will be unable to improve the personel in any meaningful way since Roy will just go into the tank if they try.

I don't advocate moving Miller to placate Roy. I advocate using the best trade chip (Miller) in an effort to get better, if not immediately, then as part of a long-term plan.

I advocate moving Roy if the right trade comes along; I just don't see how Cho can get anything valuable in exchange for him.

Most people seem lost in this "Miller vs. Roy" binary debate. For me, it is largely inconsequential in terms of the Blazers winning an NBA title. If Roy wants to whine, whatever, but that doesn't mean the team will make a trade to make him happy. If they do, then we're screwed as a fanbase, because it will again prove to me that the organization makes emotional moves based on a whim.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Here is my view on that. IMO if Roy starts to respond after a trade, it is the best thing that can happen to the franchise. Because if it doesn't happen, the death spiral begins. Full blown lotto if it doesn't work. I may not like the way Roy is handling it, but sometimes in life you have to do what you need to do in order to get something done when otherwise it will not. If that means dealing with management in a very serious tone, then so be it. I believe Roy deserves some benefit of the doubt due to what he has brought our franchise, but I also am very skeptical it will work because I believe the problems health.

I don't think a player dictating what the front office does is ever good for the franchise.

 

[PapaG]

I don't think a player dictating what the front office does is ever good for the franchise.

I don't think that Roy has the power some here think he has.

 

[andalusian]

I don't think a player dictating what the front office does is ever good for the franchise.

Players always dictate what the front office does, either by their play, behavior or both...

The fact remains, however, that the Miller/Roy back-court combination was a failure from the start - either way one of these guys was not fully utilized given their bad fit. What Brandon says is 100% on the money. It was before, it still is now. The only difference is that now Brandon is not the specimen he was before to mask some of that bad fit.

 

[hasoos]

I don't think a player dictating what the front office does is ever good for the franchise.

Well I guess Kobe really fucked up when he demanded they improve the team or he is leaving.....

 

[XXPrimusXX]

Become of him? I was under the impression he already died.

 

[blazerboy30]

Honestly, that will make it very hard for me to root for Roy.

I was thinking the same thing. I would love to see Roy back to his old self, but I would probably lose some respect for him.

 

[RoyToy]

How quickly people forget that Andre Miller pouted last year when he wasn't happy with coming off the bench and pouted so much it led to a shouting match between him and McMillan. Hmm.

Miller is the one that didn't want to cave to Roy's style of play first. From day 1 McMillan's idea was to bring Miller off the bench to lead an uptempo unit with Rudy/Outlaw/Webster/etc. Miller wouldn't accept it. He wouldn't buy in.

IMO Roy has tried 10x harder trying to make it work with Miller than Miller ever tried to make it work coming off the bench. If you're going to hate on Roy then you should hate on Miller as well, right?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

When you consider that he can barely move I'd say his play will only get worse than it is now and he's not even starter quality anymore. Scary thought.

 

[LittleAlex]

How quickly people forget that Andre Miller pouted last year when he wasn't happy with coming off the bench and pouted so much it led to a shouting match between him and McMillan. Hmm.

Miller is the one that didn't want to cave to Roy's style of play first. From day 1 McMillan's idea was to bring Miller off the bench to lead an uptempo unit with Rudy/Outlaw/Webster/etc. Miller wouldn't accept it. He wouldn't buy in.

IMO Roy has tried 10x harder trying to make it work with Miller than Miller ever tried to make it work coming off the bench. If you're going to hate on Roy then you should hate on Miller as well, right?

I always thought that was because he was playing behind Blake, who sucked absolute ass.

 

[RoyToy]

I always thought that was because he was playing behind Blake, who sucked absolute ass.

He was still in the starting lineup way before he and McMillan got into a shouting match.

How come Roy can't be happy with the offense but Miller can be? I don't get it.

Miller did his fair share of pouting about his role and the offense last year. Instead Roy, who's by far the #1 reason the franchise turned around, is the bad guy. Again, I don't get it.

 

[MARIS61]

Roy's incredible ego is his achille's heel. I just don't ever see him being a happy, effective team player.

 

[Minstrel]

Miller did his fair share of pouting about his role and the offense last year. Instead Roy, who's by far the #1 reason the franchise turned around, is the bad guy. Again, I don't get it.

Miller continued to play hard and well. People are saying they'd lose respect for Roy if it turns out he was tanking. That would be a massive difference between him and Miller...nothing at all inconsistent there.

 

[RoyToy]

Miller continued to play hard and well. People are saying they'd lose respect for Roy if it turns out he was tanking. That would be a massive difference between him and Miller...nothing at all inconsistent there.

Miller didn't play very well at all before the shouting match last year. He was also taking a lot more shots out of the offense imo instead of being the PG he ended up being to end the season last year and has been this year.

 

[PapaG]

Miller continued to play hard and well. People are saying they'd lose respect for Roy if it turns out he was tanking. That would be a massive difference between him and Miller...nothing at all inconsistent there.

I think quite a few people have moved past that hurdle. Most probably don't even know it, either. Seems to be a couple of camps setting up here, which isn't at all atypical. Narrow issues or complaints become general and widespread memes, arguments quickly move from rational to emotional, reasoning is lost, chasms grow further apart, and ultimately rabid and blind dedication to an opinion (no matter how formed) win the day. Once you are tied to that position, you shall never deviate from it, because this shows weakness, and weakness is ... weak?

I should set up a template for it. It would work in almost any news involving the Blazers.

Which is why I love it here. There is something comfortable about predictability (or dare I call it banality).

 

[WillG]

There's no place for RoyME in our TEAM going forward.
We should trade Roy for whatever we can get.
He'll never be happy unless he get's his superstar treatment.

The best we could do is to unload his contract, remove the cancer, and spend that cap space on improving the TEAM.

 

[maxiep]

I think Brandon will struggle all year, and eventually pack the season in early. I then think he'll work his ass off during the off season and strike period working with coaches and ex-players to adjust his game to suit his knees. When he comes back, he'll be a different player and not at the same level, but still damn good. If we don't trade him, I think he'll be a key piece of this team going forward, even if he's a 6th man.

I'm cutting Brandon some slack. I think he's really frustrated and angry right now.