What would it take for Nate to be fired?

[B-Roy]

Hopefully soon. I mean, god knows what happens when you don't listen to fans on a message board. (They are the most knowledgeable, of course.)

 

[Natebishop3]

Hopefully soon. I mean, god knows what happens when you don't listen to fans on a message board. (They are the most knowledgeable, of course.)

I don't know why people assume that someone is more knowledgeable about the NBA simply because they played the game. How many sports writers and journalists played in the NBA? How many played in college?

How many former players have failed miserably as coaches?

 

[hasoos]

I don't know why people assume that someone is more knowledgeable about the NBA simply because they played the game. How many sports writers and journalists played in the NBA? How many played in college?

How many former players have failed miserably as coaches?

Hell, 3 of them made jack asses of themselves on national TV the year Portland drafted Roy and Aldridge.

 

[B-Roy]

I don't know why people assume that someone is more knowledgeable about the NBA simply because they played the game. How many sports writers and journalists played in the NBA? How many played in college?

How many former players have failed miserably as coaches?

I'm not talking about the average news reporter or analyst.

This is the guy who has been coaching the actual team for the past four years, and hasn't done a shitty job at it.

 

[Stepping Razor]

He did it in 05-06 also switching from Charles Smith after 2 games to Sergei Monia

oh my god that sentence is depressing.

no matter how crap we've been this preseason, we can't deny that we've come a long way...

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Houston ain't nuttin this year.

You watch. Adelman is always underrated, and their GM gets good players. I think they'll make the playoffs.

 

[PapaG]

It's a reflection of the concern that Roy will become just another arrogant super-star - like Kobe. Will he still be the same level-headed, down-to-earth guy that he was before he got the mega-contract? Will he be jealous of Oden's expanding role?

It's the kind of angst the fans of every young star go through. When you talk about the notion of the locker-room turning on Nate, you are talking about Roy mutating into "Roybe".

I'm not saying it *will* happen - just that that is the only way Nate gets fired during the season.

Oh, OK. I still don't get it. Why try to alienate the best thing to happen to this franchise in at least a decade?

Criticize Miller, you're a "troll". This "Roybe" nonsense? Apparently intelligent commentary.

 

[PapaG]

I don't know why people assume that someone is more knowledgeable about the NBA simply because they played the game. How many sports writers and journalists played in the NBA? How many played in college?

How many former players have failed miserably as coaches?

I take the criticisms toward Nate McMillan from posters on this forum as the most accurate of NBA reports.

I work down from that point until I hit people actually affiliated with the league.

 

[LOTBfan]

It's not who you criticize that gets you a troll moniker, but how you conduct your criticism and its perceived intent by the public body

Making a statement once and defending yourself against the assault of of disagreement is one thing (admirable if you ask me, check your rep), bringing up how unfair the label is, and how unjust the e-world is in every other thread is something completely different.

Unfair? good argument and I would agree with you there, tiresome on the 158th rehash? definitely... to the point of banality.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Oh, OK. I still don't get it. Why try to alienate the best thing to happen to this franchise in at least a decade?

Criticize Miller, you're a "troll". This "Roybe" nonsense? Apparently intelligent commentary.

Intelligent commentary? More like venting an emotion. Anybody who follows sports has seen the depressing things money and celebrity can do to young players.

 

[PapaG]

Intelligent commentary? More like venting an emotion. Anybody who follows sports has seen the depressing things money and celebrity can do to young players.

True, but why the "Roybe" gloss when he's yet to act like anything but a player trying to adapt to a shoot-first/ball-first PG?

 

[Wizard Mentor]

What would it take for Nate to be fired?

Missing the playoffs.

 

[LittleAlex]

If the team is below .500 at the all star break and there aren't a ton of injuries to lay the blame on, Nate will be fired. Other then that, I can't see it happening.

 

[Haakzilla]

...it would take missing the playoffs

 

[oldmangrouch]

True, but why the "Roybe" gloss when he's yet to act like anything but a player trying to adapt to a shoot-first/ball-first PG?

Actually, I first heard the name last summer. Roy had been complaining about how contract negotiations were going, and somebody broke a story about Roy now charging $50 for an autograph. The timing of the story made him sound as if he was getting obsessed with money.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

1. Nate is safe, unless of course Big Bill starts campaigning!






2. If the Blazers don't make the playoffs and the other Bill - Cowher, still needs a job?




3. A third Bill, Russell phones Paul and advises that he can lead Team Oden to the promise land!





My point: Who's really out there that would truly impact the situation?

Mike Krzyzewski?

 

[Denny Crane]

I think Nate is safe as long as the players are with him. Coaches do lose the hearts and minds of the players and end up losing their jobs. Some guys can only keep the players' interest for a few years (Scott Skiles) and are really suited to be college coaches.

I don't look at the preseason and find any problems with the team. Roy hasn't looked particularly like the player he was last season, but he's not played big minutes like he will in the regular season. Guys (Oden, LMA, etc.) are dinged up and get games off. It's a chance for the coach to play guys who won't be getting regular minutes in the season to see what they can do. There's a 15th spot that players are auditioning for. And he has an important new player (Miller) that he needs to play enough in games that don't count to understand how to best utilize what he brings to the team.

I don't know that Nate is a great coach or anything like that. He hasn't proven it, and he hasn't proven to be a terrible one either.

I think he's certainly going to get his chance to prove himself for at least one season.

While it's fine to have your own visions of what the rotation should be, he's the coach and he's the one who has to answer for them in the end.

My $.02

 

[BenDavis503]

Monty for Head Coach!

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm not talking about the average news reporter or analyst.

This is the guy who has been coaching the actual team for the past four years, and hasn't done a shitty job at it.

And I watched Maurice Cheeks coach the team and have no idea what the hell he was doing. Now, Nate is not Mo. He is 10x the coach that Cheeks was, however, I think an argument can be made that this team would have improved its record regardless of whether McMillan was here or not. The talent level of this team has risen consistently over the last four or so years. It parallels our record improving. We can't simply say, "we are a playoff team now because of the coaching of Nate McMillan."

 

[LittleAlex]

And I watched Maurice Cheeks coach the team and have no idea what the hell he was doing. Now, Nate is not Mo. He is 10x the coach that Cheeks was, however, I think an argument can be made that this team would have improved its record regardless of whether McMillan was here or not. The talent level of this team has risen consistently over the last four or so years. It parallels our record improving. We can't simply say, "we are a playoff team now because of the coaching of Nate McMillan."

I agree. Cheeks was historically bad and the team's talent pool has gotten better every year the last three years.

This year is going to be a significant challenge for Nate. I hope he is up to the task.

 

[MIXUM]

all the nate haters better buckle up...

hes not getting fired this year.

only way... miss playoffs or a bad bad round 1 exit and thats doubtful. Usually you get a pass if you make the playoffs the previous year. however with the talent we have... making playoffs is a must

 

[PapaG]

Actually, I first heard the name last summer. Roy had been complaining about how contract negotiations were going, and somebody broke a story about Roy now charging $50 for an autograph. The timing of the story made him sound as if he was getting obsessed with money.

Roy did an autograph signing. If people wanted to pay, so be it. He also signed autographs for free. My oldest daughter got one at the Tualatin Haggen last year in the produce section. Unless, of course, Roy grabbed my wallet when I wasn't looking and took $50 as my daughter handed him her notebook.

 

[PapaG]

I agree. Cheeks was historically bad and the team's talent pool has gotten better every year the last three years.

This year is going to be a significant challenge for Nate. I hope he is up to the task.

Hmm, Andre Miller helped run Cheeks out of Philly. I think I see a connection.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Roy did an autograph signing. If people wanted to pay, so be it. He also signed autographs for free. My oldest daughter got one at the Tualatin Haggen last year in the produce section. Unless, of course, Roy grabbed my wallet when I wasn't looking and took $50 as my daughter handed him her notebook.

As I said, the story was timed to make him look bad. "Humble young star turns into money grubbing jerk" makes a great storyline....and it comes true often enough to cause legit worry among fans.

FWIW, I don't believe Roy is being singled out. I suspect every rising star attracts the same concerns.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Hmm, Andre Miller helped run Cheeks out of Philly. I think I see a connection.

Maybe. Before Cheeks was fired, Philly was openly talking about blowing the team up. After he was fired, they decided to keep the team together and try to make the play-offs. That could indicate that Cheeks had lost the locker-room. OTOH, since A.I. 2.0 was the the team's star, he seems the more likely culprit than Miller. Or maybe it was an insecure GM trying to save his own job!

If Nate and KP have a falling out, at least it won't be because KP lacks job security and needs a scapegoat to save himself.

 

[LOTBfan]

I was too cheap to buy his psp game (don't have a psp, so it seemed a frivolous investment) but he signed my playoff tickets I had in my wallet at that game crazy thing last week for free.

 

[MickZagger]

The thing is, the pieces this team has, we won't have a problem luring any coach to come and coach this team. Dream job.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

I think Nate gets fired if for some reason he and Oden don't get along.