What would you guys have done differently in 2016?

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I think it goes back further than that. I would have traded Aldridge in the summer of 2013. That would have started the rebuilding process much sooner, and I would have dealt Wes/Batum that summer or the next summer to get a better payback.
 
BrianFromWA said:
I'll buy that for ET, maybe.

For Meyers? Almost 2 weeks of FA went by and he didn't have a single (reported) offer. If nothing else, he should've gotten some sniffs for the MLE (~7M/yr). And if he didn't, that would've been more than fair. But somehow we went 60% over that, for the full 4 years. Again, if you think he's going to be a centerpiece (think Dame and CJ), absolutely lock him up as long as you can. But for a guy who was getting 8th-man minutes? Dubious.
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Big expiring contracts can get you big returns.

Look at this year, instead of having two overpriced players we would have two expiring contracts. Entirely different things.

And if by chance ET or Meyers play up to their contracts you still have that 3rd year option and their Bird rights.
 
What would help is if Turner and then Meyers and Harkless could star showing production so they become a tradeable contract instead of just dead weight. Tough to do when you don't play. I'm not saying they should be playing but I have to admit, the little Meyers has played, he has at least been productive on offense. Harkless has had a couple of 'bursts' as well and then won't play the next game.
 
KingSpeed said:
To be fair, Meyers had a great Playoffs in 2015 but was injured in 2016 and that's why I think Neil was tempted.
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4 games

game 1: 7pts, 7reb
game 2: 10pts, 7reb
game 3: 13pts, 13reb
game 4: 9pts, 4reb

smh
 
Lukee said:
4 games

game 1: 7pts, 7reb
game 2: 10pts, 7reb
game 3: 13pts, 13reb
game 4: 9pts, 4reb

smh
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"4 great games" means different things to different people. We just has such low expectations that when he did show a glimmer, it was a pleasant surprise.
 
he was an RFA!

"Hey Mr. (Leonard's Agent)...shop your client around. We'll pay $500k/yr more than any deal you bring back, b/c we like you but we have an entire roster to worry about."
vs.
"WOOHOO! 4/41, bitches!"
 
What I wouldn't have done: Panicked when they were rebuffed by Parsons to offer a crazy contract to ET. Parson is a disaster, but he at least was a fit for the squad if healthy. The ET signing was a head scratcher then and now it's a top 5 albatross contract in the NBA.
 
TBpup said:
"4 great games" means different things to different people. We just has such low expectations that when he did show a glimmer, it was a pleasant surprise.
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Sure, but 99% of the fans wouldn't gave him that contract, but Neil.. There is no excuse for him, don't care. He did some good things, but in the long term, he fucked us a lot.
 
KingSpeed said:
If you don't spend money on Turner, you never get that space again. Who do you sign if you let Mo, AC, and Meyers walk?
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None of this would have happened because I would have taken Jordan over Bowie and the entire team would be different. So I can't say what I would have done. I can say I wouldn't do anything they did.
 
Would not have signed ET, Crabbe, Meyers, Ezeli. Would have used the money on more players on smaller deals that would have given us movable assets.
 
Ezeli....that's who I forgot. An 0-5 summer....DAMN!
 
First off, I thought the strategy was what we should've done going into the off-season. Keep the RFA's and get the best possible free agents with the cap space before you sign them.

Second of all, you aren't just bidding against yourself in restricted free agency. The threat of players taking the Qualifying Offer plays a big factor. For example, look at Nerlens Noel this year on Dallas. He took the QO and because of that becomes an unrestricted free agent with no bird rights (if traded). It killed his value as an "asset". Looking back it does suck that none of the 3 RFA's really worked out and that it would have been better if they did take the QO as bad as that sounds but during that summer it would've seemed like a bad thing. Can you imagine how bad Olshey would get killed if Harkless left for nothing after doing pretty well last season because we didn't work out a deal for him? As for Crabbe, Paul Allen himself said he matched that with no hesitation. If that is what your owner wants you have to do it. Yes, it would be great if all those guys had team options and shorter deals but when you consider someone a positive asset it makes sense to lock them up.

Anyway, as for the question in this thread:

I looked at every single free agent signed that summer. Dedmon was mentioned in this thread already but would he really make a difference? I'd rather have Ed I think. Sure, we could have gone after Barnes but would he have chosen us over Dallas since he got a max offer from them, who knows? There are literally no other realistic guys that would have been on the team and making a real difference right now. That was really depressing. I just wish Turner was an Olshey value signing special instead of the contract he got.
 
TBpup said:
Said from the beginning...Fournier. I didn't think he would get that much but he could shoot and that fit this team.
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Sure, Fournier would be better than Turner..... but would he take us over the top? Probably not.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Sure, Fournier would be better than Turner..... but would he take us over the top? Probably not.
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The premise wasn't about taking us over the top. The premise was who differently.
 
TBpup said:
I wanted Fournier that summer and when they offered Turner, couldn't figure out how he fit in Stotts offense. I get the '3rd ball-handler' bit but once he gave up the ball, he became an offensive liability and he's not good enough to be the primary ball-handler which you wouldn't want anyhow.
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Fournier was a restricted free agent. There was no chance to get him.
 
Natebishop3 said:
But the "who" should at least present an alternative reality where we're not on a treadmill, no?
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Who knows what would have happened. We're not winning a 'Ship' with Fournier but I think he fits in here a lot better than ET which makes everyone else's jobs that much easier. Imagine an actual wing shooting a career 38% from '3' and how much easier the game becomes for Dame/CJ. It's the biggest hole on this roster.
 
TBpup said:
Who knows what would have happened. We're not winning a 'Ship' with Fournier but I think he fits in here a lot better than ET which makes everyone else's jobs that much easier. Imagine an actual wing shooting a career 38% from '3' and how much easier the game becomes for Dame/CJ. It's the biggest hole on this roster.
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Doesn't matter, he was restricted, Orlando would've matched.
 
I thought Ezeli was a fine risk. Didn't pan out, of course, but it was a reasonable gamble and had minimal risk. I also think the Harkless deal was fine, even as we stand today. He was worth it last year and while he's struggled this year, it's perfectly conceivable that he'll bounce back next year. His contract is not really something that I consider a problem holding the team back.

It's Crabbe, Turner and Leonard that are hard to understand, for me.
 
So most of you would have angled to keep cap space when that has proven to give us jack shit, how clever.
 
I would have probably have signed Harkless but let Meyers and Crabbe go. Crabbe was limited and had reached his peak. Even I wondered why we gave him that contract. Then I would have signed as many roster fillers as possible hoping to get lucky. My bad move would have been signing Biyombo I just know it!
 
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