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Portland business Nico's Ice Cream gets national recognition

 
Portland business Nico's Ice Cream gets national recognition


Right across the street from Fire On The Mountain….not a bad 1,2 punch right in my hood. If you aren’t scared to come to the eastside.
 
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I’m sure that setting the fire, collecting the insurance money, and blaming the homeless isn’t on any owner’s mind right now.

corporate building. Not a private owner, And that would then be attempted murder. Because unless something changed, homeless were camping out all over two sides of the building the last time i drove by that place almost a month ago.

However a thorough investigation should be able to determine the likely source of the fire. Curious as to the results.
 
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corporate building. Not a private owner, And that would then be attempted murder. Because unless something changed, homeless were camping out all over two sides of the building the last time i drove by that place almost a month ago.

However a thorough investigation should be able to determine the likely source of the fire. Curious as to the results.
I have no doubt that a fire will be determined to be the source.

They will not know who started it. But they will assume it was for warmth or cooking.

It will be blamed on the homeless.

Anybody could have started that fire. Including somebody paid by a corporation.
 
I have no doubt that a fire will be determined to be the source.

They will not know who started it. But they will assume it was for warmth or cooking.

It will be blamed on the homeless.

Anybody could have started that fire. Including somebody paid by a corporation.

The can typically determine if its an accident or arsen is what i meant.
 
The can typically determine if its an accident or arsen is what i meant.
I'm not so sure about that. You'd really have to try to start a fire that would exclude the homeless as a possibility in this building that had been surrounded by homeless for the last few years...

How would you know it's arson? And if it were determined to be arson, how could you possibly assume it was by somebody other than the homeless?
 
I'm not so sure about that. You'd really have to try to start a fire that would exclude the homeless as a possibility in this building that had been surrounded by homeless for the last few years...

How would you know it's arson? And if it were determined to be arson, how could you possibly assume it was by somebody other than the homeless?

Im not an arsen/fire investigator, but forensics is pretty good.
I mean, thats their whole job.


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Im not an arsen/fire investigator, but forensics is pretty good.
I mean, thats their whole job.


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True. And when somebody starts a fire in the middle of their living room with gasoline that is very obviously arson.

But the homeless start fires with gasoline all the time. It would take some trying to make this look like anything other than a fire caused by homeless. Why would anybody make those kinds of efforts? Just go start a campfire near flammable stuff.

Virtually any fire at that location could easily be blamed on the homeless.
 
True. And when somebody starts a fire in the middle of their living room with gasoline that is very obviously arson.

But the homeless start fires with gasoline all the time. It would take some trying to make this look like anything other than a fire caused by homeless. Why would anybody make those kinds of efforts? Just go start a campfire near flammable stuff.

Virtually any fire at that location could easily be blamed on the homeless.

Okay but if by accident or intentional, if started by a homeless individual, it was started by a homeless individual, right?
And if the fire they start is illegal to begin with regardless of whether they were trying to burn the building down or just stay warm, its still an illegal fire started by the homeless, is it not?

or what if it was a methhead starting an illegal fire to support their addiction to an illegal substance. Yes an accident that the fire got out of control, but still illegal activites from a homeless person or persons, is it not?
 


I’m sure that setting the fire, collecting the insurance money, and blaming the homeless isn’t on any owner’s mind right now.

corporate building. Not a private owner, And that would then be attempted murder. Because unless something changed, homeless were camping out all over two sides of the building the last time i drove by that place almost a month ago.

However a thorough investigation should be able to determine the likely source of the fire. Curious as to the results.

I have no doubt that a fire will be determined to be the source.

They will not know who started it. But they will assume it was for warmth or cooking.

It will be blamed on the homeless.

Anybody could have started that fire. Including somebody paid by a corporation.

The can typically determine if its an accident or arsen is what i meant.

 
Scenes From a City That Only Hands Out Tickets for Using Fentanyl

For the past two and a half years, Oregon has been trying an unusual experiment to stem soaring rates of addiction and overdose deaths. People caught with small amounts of illicit drugs for “personal use,” including fentanyl and methamphetamine, are fined just $100 — a sanction that can be waived if they participate in a drug screening and health assessment. The aim is to reserve prosecutions for large-scale dealers and address addiction primarily as a public health emergency.

When the proposal, known as Measure 110, was approved by nearly 60 percent of Oregon voters in November 2020, the pandemic had already emptied downtown Portland of workers and tourists. But its street population was growing, especially after the anti-police protests that had spread around the country that summer. Within months of the measure taking effect in February 2021, open-air drug use, long in the shadows, burst into full view, with people sitting in circles in parks or leaning against street signs, smoking fentanyl crushed on tinfoil.

Since then, Oregon’s overdose rates have only grown. Now, tents of unhoused people line many sidewalks in Portland. Monthslong waiting lists for treatment continue to lengthen. Some politicians and community groups are calling for Measure 110 to be replaced with tough fentanyl possession laws. Others are pleading to give it more time and resources.


Washington Center, a vacant building that was used as an open-air drug market, being boarded up; Kristiana Bolin and her husband, Josh, moved to Portland a year ago, live out of a van and use fentanyl; boarding up the building; a police cruiser at the site.

The following is a mosaic of voices and images from Portland today.

Working downtown
On her walk to work at Forte Portland, a coffee shop and wine bar that she operates with her brother in the sunken lobby of a commercial building, Jennifer Myrle sidesteps needles, shattered glass and human feces. Often, she says, someone is passed out in front of the lobby’s door, blocking her entrance. The other day, a man lurched in, lay down on a Forte couch, stripped off his shirt and shoes, and refused to leave.

“At four in the afternoon the streets can feel like dealer central,” Ms. Myrle said. “At least 20 to 30 people in ski masks, hoodies and backpacks, usually on bikes and scooters. There’s no point calling the cops.”




Despite the street turmoil, Ms. Myrle likes to go for strolls on her breaks. “But at 11:30 on a Tuesday morning, I walked to the block between Target and Nordstrom and in the middle of everything,” she said, she saw a woman performing an act of oral sex on a man.

She is keenly aware that she’s witnessing a confluence of longstanding societal problems, including mental health and housing crises. “But it’s so much the drugs,” she said.

Instagram account, which has generated intense reaction.

“I get a lot of feedback in the DMs: ‘You need to let the addicts die, they shouldn’t be Narcanned,’” Officer Baer said, adding: “That’s tough to read because we interact with these people every day. I’ve worked on the same person multiple times.”





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One person Officer Baer has helped for years is a man named Justin. During night patrol shifts in North Portland, he would encounter Justin drunk from a night at the bars and drive him home.

“The other day I was biking around and I look over — ‘Why is that guy bleeding over there?’ I roll him over and it’s Justin!” Officer Baer said.

Fentanyl Overdoses: What to Know
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Devastating losses. Drug overdose deaths, largely caused by the synthetic opioid drug fentanyl, reached record highs in the United States in 2021. Here’s what you should know to keep your loved ones safe:






“He had come downtown, and now he’s addicted to fentanyl. So I Narcanned him and he came back. Twice, now, I think.”


A big part of his job is writing Measure 110 tickets. “It’s like, ‘Hey, you can’t smoke meth or fentanyl on the sidewalk or on the playground.’ And the pushback we get? People can be really aggressive. They think they’re in the right because they think drugs are legal.




Living on a sidewalk
Portland is a homeless drug addict’s slice of paradise,” said Noah Nethers, who was living with his girlfriend in a bright orange tent on the sidewalk against a fence of a church, where they shoot and smoke both fentanyl and meth.

He ticked off the advantages: He can do drugs wherever he wants and the cops no longer harass him. There are more dealers, scouting for fresh customers moving to paradise. That means drugs are plentiful and cheap.

Downsides: Tent living is no paradise, he said, especially when folks in nearby tents, high on meth, hit him with baseball bats.


Noah Nethers hoped to write books; fentanyl hidden in a sock; a blue fentanyl pill, partially smoked on tinfoil; Mr. Nethers cleaning a fentanyl pipe in his tent.
Growing up in Detroit, he dreamed of becoming an English teacher and writing books. But in fifth grade, he started poking around his older brother’s sock drawer and found his weed stash. By high school, Mr. Nethers was smoking crushed-up OxyContin pills. Then he tried heroin.

He was in and out of rehab, five or six times. And prison.

During the years he was able to claw his way to sobriety, Mr. Nethers worked in construction, made rent and became a father.

Give up your treatment or risk losing your baby.
Lately, he has been trying to take a hard look at his daily struggles.

“I want to pull up the plane before it totally hits the side of the mountain,” Mr. Nethers said. “I mean, please, please God, tell me there’s a way to make it out of this.”




Getting so many calls for help
Solara Salazar, a director of Cielo Treatment Center, which serves young adults in Portland, now receives about 20 inquiries a day about rehab services. “And the majority of them we can’t help,” she said.


Solara Salazar of Cielo Treatment Center, led a rehab graduation ceremony; Gabriel Robles-Ellis, who had used fentanyl, spoke at the ceremony; while meeting with candidates for county commissioner, neighbors spoke about Measure 110's impact.
Funding for Measure 110’s promise of increased services comes from Oregon’s marijuana tax revenues. After a slow start, more than $265 million has flowed to programs that try to make drug use safer by providing clean needles and test strips, offer culturally specific peer support and provide shelter for people newly in recovery. But residential treatment for addiction has yet to be substantially expanded.

Oregon Recovers, which lobbies for improved treatment and support.

“I talked to a woman the other day who’s living in her car, and she was sobbing and crying and so desperate for treatment. I’m trying to give her some hope and I say, ‘Just keep trying and you’re going to make it,’ but I know that’s a lie. She’s not pregnant, so she doesn’t meet the benchmark for an immediate bed. And I’m going to tell her she has to call every single day for four months and then maybe she’ll get a bed?”

Unifying divided neighbors



For months, a beat-up van with a duct-taped storage box on the roof has been parked across the street from SS. Peter and Paul Episcopal Church in southeastern Portland, doing a brisk business at all hours. The Rev. Sara Fischer thinks the owners are dealing drugs; she recognizes some customers, who also show up in the parking lot of her church, which hosts a county needle exchange program.




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Copy and pasted because it was behind NYT's paywall. Should really be in the "What's Going on in Oregon" thread, but that doesn't exist.
 
Wait a minute... If Oregon's measure 110 is the problem and all of the druggies are coming to Portland how is it possible that there are


How could that be possible?
Whether 110 is working effectively or not is certainly debatable, imo. That's why I mentioned Oregon as a whole
 
Whether 110 is working effectively or not is certainly debatable, imo. That's why I mentioned Oregon as a whole
I think the problem is that we have had ineffective social policy in this country for at least 4 decades and we're falling further and further behind advancements in technology and chemical and material science.

We have no hope to address these issues without drastic social reform either toward empowering our population or basically removing all of our freedoms.
 
Just wanted to share….. my daughter’s best friend is now playing soccer up in Spokane for Gonzaga. Arrived on campus July 6th….her and the players haven’t left campus ONCE because of the homeless problem there. Can’t even leave the front gates of the school. Shit seems getting worse everywhere.
 

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